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Hello - having witnessed some truly epic grows on this site, this is my first grow - motivated by medicinal needs, (am running three strains), this specific diary is for Barney's farm Glue Gelato Auto - I thought I would put it up for review in order to encourage any helpful advice that the community can offer. Greenhouse and outside combo, (essentially avoiding rain) and as it is the first attempt to understand the craft, I have tried to keep things as simply as possible. I will start separate diaries for the other two strains, Barney's farm ZkittleZ OG Auto and Grizzly Purple Kush Auto from BlimBurn seeds - but all three were started together and have been (subjected) put through the same feeding/watering regime.
As I write this it is week 8 - the girls are at 52 days. This girl was planted in a small pot post germination (1st May), transplanted into final pot (25ltr fabric pot) on the 17th of May, which was when I started to feed her. Regular ph'd water between 6.5 & 6.8. Occasional foliar spray with ecofective bugs & mildew. I stopped spraying when there were obvious signs of flowering.
Have been feeding since week 3 - first with some seaweed extract, then with some GroSure tomato food (5ml in 4.5ltrs - across the three plants) and finally with Vitax Q4 powder (7.5g to 10mg). Feeding schedule is circa every 3 days .... if it has been humid or raining I have tended to stretch to every four days.
As mentioned above, comments welcome. Would be interested to know if I am vaguely on track from anyone who has grown this specific strain before... however there are a serious number of questions I would appreciate having answers to any of them (please see below)... from my 'research' the majority of the community grow in tents, but I would still be grateful for any suggestions.
Is the suggested harvest date (64 - 70 days) reasonably accurate? BF's reputation is very good and I am impressed with the quality of their seeds, however I am finding it tough to gauge where I am in the life cycle of the grow and whether or not I am on time, a little behind or if it is even possible, ahead for any reason.
How much can grow environment effect this timeline for this strain and autos in general? I am not talking about amount of sunlight (I cannot control that element) but whether it is reasonable to expect a delay to harvest date if environmental factors are not optimal?
Does growing in a greenhouse impact this at all?
If the timeline changes, what are the signs to look for - pistils changing colour, additional trichome development (I understand pre-harvest analysis of seeing mix of milky and amber) but as the buds are developing I am still unsure as to a few things.
How to know when to stop feeding?
How to know when to start flushing? Is two weeks the right amount of time? Is this to be repeated every day until harvest?
How much h20 to flush with for 25ltr - 30 ltr fabric pots? Is it until one sees significant run off? (I have the pots sitting in saucers)
How much run off is one looking for? (Is water being 'clearer' important?
Is it important to stop watering at all a few days before harvest?
As mentioned above, I would be grateful for any advice and/or answers to the questions above.
Hello - having witnessed some truly epic grows on this site, this is my first grow - motivated by medicinal needs, (am running three strains), this specific diary is for Barney's farm Glue Gelato Auto - I thought I would put it up for review in order to encourage any helpful advice that the community can offer. Greenhouse and outside combo, (essentially avoiding rain) and as it is the first attempt to understand the craft, I have tried to keep things as simply as possible. I will start separate diaries for the other two strains, Barney's farm ZkittleZ OG Auto and Grizzly Purple Kush Auto from BlimBurn seeds - but all three were started together and have been (subjected) put through the same feeding/watering regime.
As I write this it is week 8 - the girls are at 52 days. This girl was planted in a small pot post germination (1st May), transplanted into final pot (25ltr fabric pot) on the 17th of May, which was when I started to feed her. Regular ph'd water between 6.5 & 6.8. Occasional foliar spray with ecofective bugs & mildew. I stopped spraying when there were obvious signs of flowering.
Have been feeding since week 3 - first with some seaweed extract, then with some GroSure tomato food (5ml in 4.5ltrs - across the three plants) and finally with Vitax Q4 powder (7.5g to 10mg). Feeding schedule is circa every 3 days .... if it has been humid or raining I have tended to stretch to every four days.
As mentioned above, comments welcome. Would be interested to know if I am vaguely on track from anyone who has grown this specific strain before... however there are a serious number of questions I would appreciate having answers to any of them (please see below)... from my 'research' the majority of the community grow in tents, but I would still be grateful for any suggestions.
Is the suggested harvest date (64 - 70 days) reasonably accurate? BF's reputation is very good and I am impressed with the quality of their seeds, however I am finding it tough to gauge where I am in the life cycle of the grow and whether or not I am on time, a little behind or if it is even possible, ahead for any reason.
How much can grow environment effect this timeline for this strain and autos in general? I am not talking about amount of sunlight (I cannot control that element) but whether it is reasonable to expect a delay to harvest date if environmental factors are not optimal?
Does growing in a greenhouse impact this at all?
If the timeline changes, what are the signs to look for - pistils changing colour, additional trichome development (I understand pre-harvest analysis of seeing mix of milky and amber) but as the buds are developing I am still unsure as to a few things.
How to know when to stop feeding?
How to know when to start flushing? Is two weeks the right amount of time? Is this to be repeated every day until harvest?
How much h20 to flush with for 25ltr - 30 ltr fabric pots? Is it until one sees significant run off? (I have the pots sitting in saucers)
How much run off is one looking for? (Is water being 'clearer' important?
Is it important to stop watering at all a few days before harvest?
As mentioned above, I would be grateful for any advice and/or answers to the questions above.
Had what I thought/think was a little nutrient burn (probably whilst feeding) removed one leaf and became more vigilant whilst feeding.... fed some seaweed (NPK 3.6 - 4.8 - 1.4) and last dose of GroSure tomato food (NPK 6 - 3 - 10) - (5ml in 4.5ltrs across three plants) before switching to Vitax Q4 .... (NPK - 5.3 - 7.5 - 10) ...
Switched to Vitax Q4 - started at 10mg but moved down to 7.5mg (not wanting to push it too hard on the nutrients at this stage) - 1.5ltr of water per day (unless super humid) - but did add another round of seaweed (5mg) worked into soil and watered in.
Wk 8 on first ever grow. In first wk of diary are questions based around my inexperience. Anyone willing to have a look, many thanks in advance. Glue Gelato (Barney's Farm) suggests a 64-70 day harvest. Thinking about 70 or 77 as target? Stop feeding when? Start flushing day 60?
You have a long way to go. When it starts to look close to ripe it's usually a good time, because there's still 10-14 days, typically, from that point. Being familiar with trichome progression will help too. Start observing, now :)
Anyway, your substrate will impact how long you flush. With soil you have extra room for error.. can always changeup midstream if it is going longer. Bring it down slowly though. Don't flood the thing. Normal irrigation with healthy runoff is all until top 1" dries again.
you can only pick out the day if you are familiar with the plant. The plant does the planning, regardless.
She is putting on some weight - and her aroma is starting to come through - have been taking her out of the greenhouse (it has been turning into an oven on hot days, even fully ventilated and fans running... ) - on the feeding front she has had two doses of seaweed (10g each time) and one final Vitax Q4 (7.5g) - also gave her a mini flush after the Vitax just to push remnants of previous feeding ... am starting to see signs that I should be flushing from now on - as this is my first grow the conviction levels as to how to play it from here remain low... more pistils are changing to light orange - have been checking trichomes - it seems most are getting cloudy and so shall start looking to focus on a day 70 harvest (give or take a day or two)... I am not sure if I am too early - but I would rather lean on the side of caution first time up....
Week 9 and have started to flush - I don't want to be 'late' on my first grow. Have been checking trichome development, which is a tricky art. Am waiting to see between 30-50% amber, how long that takes is a guessing game at the moment. She is definitely putting on weight, and as I have only been flushing for a few days (twice in four days) she is yet to show any signs of 'yellowing' as she absorbs the remaining nutrients. Am hoping to see more of that this week, but as it is the first attempt I am just taking each day as it comes. Trying not to rush, and trying not to miss anything. Can anyone help me understand how much weight is put on during the flush? Is there a time frame for trichomes changing from cloudy to amber, does the weather impact this to a significant degree? --- Apologies for the gratuitous number of photos.. but if people are able to share some knowledge on where they think she is from a potential to add more weight/harvest timing perspective it would be much appreciated.
Lastly - do any of the breeders ever answer questions about specific strains? It would be incredibly useful to have grow guides for each strain across all types of growing environment. Indoor, greenhouse, outdoor - hybrid set-ups. As well as how they develop across different mediums under varying conditions. I realise that this superb platform does some of this by way of the sharing of information within the community. But a little 'insider knowledge' would go a long way to helping build conviction levels for novice growers like myself.
So - all good things must come to an end - however, not all endings are good. I have harvested, but not at the time I wanted, or rather, the time she (Barney's Farm Glue Gelato Auto) would have been ready. As with all outdoor grows there are going to be challenges and problems, especially with the funky weather this year. I have posted some photos of the damage, I thought about just scrubbing the diary, but to be honest, I ended up coming to the conclusion that, as it was my first grow, letting the community see for themselves was the better option. Any comments or advice are welcome.
To cut a very irritating story short, the last two weeks have not been ideal growing conditions, even running her in the greenhouse & outdoor. The sun may be free, but growing in nature has some harsh costs. I have been worried about the humidity levels at night, but having tried to just let things run without spending too much money, I have paid the ultimate price. The last two weeks there has been a lot of rain, mixed in with very hot days. This has caused two of the girls to get bud rot (I am running three strains - and yes one of my other girls has been struck down in the same manner and I am thinking only positive thoughts that the third (Barney's Farm ZkittleZ OG Auto) has managed to avoid getting hurt). As mentioned this is genuinely my first grow, and so even having done an enormous amount of research and having spent a huge amount of time with the girls, checking that everyone was happy and healthy, it seems that bud rot builds out of sight and the first sign of it means that some serious damage has already been done. I was taking some photos for the diary and noticed that one of the sugar leaves looked as though it was changing color. On closer inspection it looked like about a quarter of the leaf was brown and wilted (see pics). I had read that if you pull on them and they come out without any effort, that is an issue and most probably bud rot. As I went around the top half of the plant it seemed that the issue had only really got to the top cola. Which was looking super ripe and had sugar everywhere. I was very reluctant to admit the truth and after another half an hour of detective work I had to face the painful fact that she had an issue. She had been smelling ridiculously delicious, but I did notice a slightly different aroma which had me rather concerned.
Now I don't know if I have done the right thing (comments & advice appreciated if anyone has a view), but I just cut her down. Taking away the top cola, which had real damage (see pics) and then focused on trying to save as much of her possible. I was only 9 days into flushing (day 65 for her), and her trichomes were sill cloudy so I had assumed I had a few more days to wait until harvest, maybe a week at most. So close and yet so far from paradise, as Elvis once sang. I have put in a photo to (sort of) show what I managed to salvage as well as the horror show 'evidence'.
I am absolutely gutted. She was a truly beautiful plant and had really put on weight - but it seems that weight just made her more vulnerable to bud rot risk. The humidity was over 80 for last few nights and regardless of what I did to control the environment in the greenhouse (ventilation/heater to dry the air, watering early in the day) I could not get it down. It has been a problem for two weeks and I guess that time just played its part and que sera, sera.
As mentioned above one of my other girls (a Grizzly Purple Kush) also had a small amount and I took extreme (panic) measures and just cut her down as well. She wasn't due to be ready until day 77/80 and was on same time as the Glue Gelato Barney's Farm. I guess she would have put on much more weight and I am concerned because she had not been flushed at all. I just thought that I needed to get them both out of the greenhouse and to try and save as much as possible. For a first ever grow I was really hoping not to encounter any major issues (wow it has been a learning experience), and have been salivating at the thought of finally getting to taste the girls, but I have been taken down just before the finish line.
I will update this again to give a final number on weight etc and how she smokes... it will only be the dry weight, therefore it will be minus the top cola (massive and dense) and one of the higher buds (which was also massive and sticky with crystals) as I was in no mood to even contemplate calculating wet weight as I was cutting her down.
It was emotional ;-)
The next morning I bought a massive dehumidifier and planted more seeds.
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