Dam these ladies are strong genetics they have been in Solo cups since day one and are doing great .. The one that was given juts miicrobialmass was ahead but now that they are both eating the same the growth has cought up between the two .. smells good and skunky and the growth is very close in uniformity .. From a growers perspective these are amazing genetics right here !! Glad to be running them right now and excited to get some fall colours ..cheers