Germernated in Rhozotonic soaked towel placed in a bag for two days while kept warm and dark.
Only one (Diesel auto) out of the five seeds did not pop so it was left for another two days.
The four other seeds where moved to Rhozotonic soaked jiffies.
Looking from the loong root it proberly poped just soon after the others.
with that root a jiffe was to small so a suitable pot was used instead.