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I am starting a Gorilla Glue auto grow after a terrible attempt at growing OG Kush auto's and overwatering them as seedlings.
I will be running the babies under a 400w FL light fixture for their first 1-4 weeks, then move onto the 600W Kind LED.
I have put together a simple irrigation system which is used when needed, although I will be hand watering for the first 4 weeks.
Feel free to message/comment with any questions or tips you have for me. 🙏
Thanks
UPDATE (21/11/2020):
Day 4, All seeds germinated in the paper towel 48~ hours ago and have been transferred to their final coco pots, where they have popped their heads up in all 9 indoor pots.
I'm still waiting for the 10th seed to show, which is outdoors.
UPDATE 2 (22/11/2020):
I have decided to invest in a new grow light. I've decided to go with the spider farmer sf4000.
I'm hoping by upgrading my lighting and being extra careful with watering i'll have a much higher success rate than I would with an old LED model or a broken CFL fixture.
Thanks for viewing!
Hi there,
How much should I be letting the coco dry out for these seedlings?
I just had a failed grow due to overwatering the seedlings and I'm looking for some guidance.
I know there's many factors, but I'm just worried I'll either under or over water again.
Thank you!
Hi!
Coco is actually really hard to overwater cos it holds oxygen while being wet, where normal soil wont do this. So as long as you have proper drainage in the pot and you dont keep the coco soaking wet all the time you'll be fine. Coco likes to be moist but not bone dry or soaking wet.
Hi there,
I currently have 9 1 day old Auto seedlings under a 400w FL lamp with 2 broken outputs so its really running at 300w, which is 18" away from the seedling
I also have a 600W Kind LED and I'm wondering if I should replace the broken FL lamp with the LED?
Thanks in advance
Hi!
With the tent that size you can use the cfl lamps but when they get bigger you should add the led too. I think the "600W" led is actually something between 200-300W so youll get 600W true power to flowering and its much better than only using one lamp
I have just installed my new Spider Farmer SF4000.
I'm happy with the progress my girls have made in their first week.
They're only showing the first set up serrated leaves but I'm hoping the new light will kick start some more veg production.
Any tips are welcome.
28/11/20 (Day 8 since popping above soil) Update:
The girls are coming along nicely, I fed them a little less than 1/4 strength coco A+B & Canna Rhizotonic today after letting them go without water for a day.
One of the 9 girls didnt make it and i'm not sure why. I also have a runt of the litter out of the 8 remaining plants.
I plan to germinate a feminized photo seed to take the 9th spot in the 5/5, which will then be moved into a future planned mother tent.
29/11/20 (day 9) Update:
Plants definitely shot up overnight, their second set of leaves are almost as big as the first set.
I fed them 1/4 strength nutes again today and I made a batch of 1/3 nutes to use next feeding.
I hope to see the same amount of growth tomorrow as I did today.
Thanks for viewing!
Hi there,
This morning when I checked my plants I noticed one of my seedlings(out of 9) had completely drooped over 90 degrees on its side.
First pic is the girl who toppled over, other photos are to show the difference between the healthy girls
Thanks
Hi!
There's nothing to worry about! I see lot of people supporting their little seedlings if they fall over, but I think that is just counterproductive, if the seedling falls over she will have to use little bit mroe strenght to get back up, but that will make her stronger in the long run, so why give her aid with sticks and never letting her get strong stem on her own? She won't die if she falls over or anything and sometimes it happens. Treat them all as same and let the nature do it's job.
ALso I see that you are growing in coco, so I suggest that you read a little bit about it. In coco you have to follow the hydro pH nutrient uptake chart 'cos coco is "soilless" grow and acts kinda like hydro. Also with coco there is really really minimal risk to overwatering and you can keep the coco wet all the time but do not keep it soaking wet tho!
Overwatering happens when you keep normal soil too wet for too long and there is no more oxygen in the root zone and the plant will sufocate, but with coco, it holds more oxygen when saturated with water than dry, so it is important to keep coco somewhat wet all the time.
Hi there,
I recently overwatered my previous auto seedlings and I have started a new batch as of last week.
I'm just curious about how you think the girls growth is doing for 7.5 days above soil/coco.
Sorry for the basic question, just not sure if im doing alright.
Thank you!
Completely disagree with organoman. You are way to early in the game to be watering that entire pot. Worst thing you can do is overwater. The roots will expand and seek out water when they are allowed to breath. When they can’t breath they won’t grow. Yes, once that thing is established then follow organomans recommendations. But I’m looking as]to a very young seedling that has no ability to uptake a high volume of water, so that will leave you with a moist substrate and suffocated immature root system. Good luck
Hi there,
Today I was screwing around with photo seeds in rapid rooters and I moved a sticky bug trap that landed on top of my 12 day old plant and ripped a fan leaf off..
I just wanted to check with others to see if this would cause a lot of stress or stunt the auto?
Thanks!
Week 2 has gone just as well as I'd like it too!
I had an accident during the week where I had dropped a sticky bug trap on one of my girls, this led to me accidentally ripping off a fan leaf and a half, but she seems to have come out of it just fine! (Thankfully).
I have been feeding 1/3 strength nutes the past few feeds, stepping it up from 1/4.
I will be watering until I see runoff from now on to prevent nutrients from building up in the coco.
Update(day 15, 4/12/20)
Today I purchased a new oscillating fan, co2 bags and a new hygrometer that hooks up to my phone and shows me stats.
The girls have been putting in a lot of work over the past 24 hours.
I also had a Purple Punch photo seed sprout today which I may be turning into a mother plant. I will be starting a diary for this girl too.
Update (Day 16 5/12/20)
Second purple punch photo popped today, going to keep 1 inside and give the other to my mom to take care of.
The girls got their first 1/4 dose of calmag today fed at 6ph due to all the nutrients settling there.( I do have ph +/- but I'm going to try run this whole grow at 5.8-6.2.
Update (Day 17 6/12/20)
Plants seem happy today.
Fan leaves producing a the pre-existing nodes are starting to shoot out quite rapidly.
Unfortunately, my streets power went out today for ~90 minutes, I opened the tent, windows and doors to get any light in I could, thankfully the power came back on shortly after.
I fed the girls today with very little run-off(I'm trying to perfect the amount of water they need).
Update (Day 18 7/12/20)
The girls have jumped up over night!
I wont be feeding today as I'd like the coco to dry out quite a bit more.
Update (Day 19 8/12/20
Gave the girls a small feed today with very little run-off
Everything seems to be going well so far, I'm very thankful!
Update (day 20 9/12/20)
Everything is going pretty well today.
I will not be feeding as the increased humidity has kept the coco more moist than usual.
Will be feeding full strength nutes tomorrow!
Thanks for stopping by, HMU with any questions or tips you have.
Simple question here today!
I was wondering about the difference between these two plants (A & B)?
I have treated them exactly the same and I'm just wondering what the deal is?
Could it be they're just 2 completely different phenos?
Thank you!
Yes, just two different individuals, nothing to worry about. Seeds are organic living beings and are not made in factories to identical specifications. Just like brothers and sister, even though they come from the same parents, children are different. Breeders use possibly hundreds of mother plants to produce enough seeds to sell the whole world over and there are genetic variations in each and every seed. No need to worry, she will grow just fine. It could even be a one in a million super phenotype that every breeder and grower is waiting to discover! Hope this helps.... Organoman.
We've made it to week 3! (10/12/20)
I'm very happy with how the girls are going, they have definitely put in a HUGE amount of work over the past 7 days.
Plants 3 & 8 are very similar(extremely fat leaves & extra bushy)
Plants 1 & 5 are similar (smaller phenos reacting to nutes slightly differently)
& Plants 2, 4, 6 & 7 seem to be a cross between the previously mentioned phenos(not too small and not too big/bushy & reacting to nutes fine)
Feel free to compare Week 1, 2 & 3 to see the differences.
Nutes are staying the same this week, although I will be spacing feedings out a little bit further(18 hours-ish), as well as feeding straight PH'd water once a fortnight.
I am contemplating hooking my simple drip-to-waste irrigation system up, although the girls are pretty close to the medium still and the halos sit 5-10cm above the medium, meaning fan leaves would be drooping onto the wet halos, so I'll give it another week and see how they're doing :)
Update 11/12/20 - day 22
The girls have beefed up quite a bit over the last 24 hours, I'm really looking forward to seeing a stretch soon :)
No feeding today & will water plain ph'd water tomorrow.
Update 12/12/20 - day 23
Gave the girls straight ph'd water today with little run off.
Veg growth is really starting to boom now, looking forward to seeing where this grow goes!
I'm gladly accepting any tips or tricks, as I'm still only a beginner to indoors.
Update 13/12/20 - day 24
Girls are looking great today, not much to report.
They didn't get a feed or watering today as the medium was still wet after a pure watering yesterday.
Update 14/12/20 - day 25
There's been a big increase in growth over the past 24 hours.
All the girls besides the 2 smaller phenos look 100% happy, the smaller ones have looked a little weird since day 1(Weird as in colour of the fan leaves look deficient of something, but I'm not sure what.
The girls will be getting a full feeding today.
There's still no signs of sex but they are feminised seeds.
Update 15/12/20 - day 26
Girls are looking happy today.
Temps are back to normal after a heat wave in my city(its only going to get hotter from here on out).
No feeding/watering today, pots are heavy/wet enough.
Started using iphone for photos now, my only lens for my DSLR is useless for most grow related photos.
I will upgrade my lens before next grow.
I received my new silenced fan today! I couldnt be any happier :)
It is a silenced Sigilventus SE-A150J, which I have set-up with a brand new Can-lite carbon filter.
I went from a rocket loud eBay fan to a completely silent inline EC fan :D
I hope the girls like the silence!
Update 16/12/20 - day 27
The girls are continuing to boom! and I'm over the moon about it :D
I gave them a full feeding today.
I have seen white pistils coming out of calyx's on most of the girls, so i'm hoping they start to flower soon.
I'm having weird issues with my humidity, it seems to be fine at 40-50% for 70% of the day, but the remaing 30% of the day it goes up to 60-65%.
Temps stay the same in the 5x5 tent, I have ducted air-con in the house which is on most of the day.
Thanks for viewing! :)
Hi there
It's been 4 years since my last grow(5 successful harvests, so I'm still a beginner).
I was just wondering if these girls were showing sex in these images?
It may be a little too early to tell, you let me know :)
Thanks!
Hard to see exactly, one clear close up picture would help, as unfortunately there is no "zoom" function on this platform, however, yes, it looks like pistils in picture 1 and female calyxes in picture 2.
Look for small white hairs (pistils) emerging from pods (calyxes) growing at the junction of the main stem with a leaf or branch and this will confirm your suspicions that they are indeed female plants. The time frame for an auto seems about right for it to start flowering.
Male flowers will be similar in size, but have a smaller lower portion of a pod, with a larger rear portion of a pod that will form a type of curved "brim" overlapping the lower portion of the pod, or a bit like the lower portion of the pod is wearing a hoodie, if that makes sense. In time, the male flowers will grow a stalk, then form a cluster of male flowers on top of the stalk, making it easy to tell that your plant is male. Also, male flowers will have no hairs/pistils emerging from within the "pods", but stay closed until mature enough to shed pollen. The separate segments of the male pods/bracts will then peel back like petals on a flower, exposing the male stamens, or bananas as people call them, to the air, allowing for the pollen to be swept away by the wind in search of female pistils to land upon and fertilize the seed ovule contained at the base of the pistils within the female calyx.
Hope this helps......
Organoman.
Hi there,
I'm having weird issues with my humidity, it seems to be fine (40-50%) for 70% of the day, but the remaining 30% of the day it spikes up to 60-65%.
Temps stay reasonable in the 5x5 tent, I have ducted air-con in the house which is on most of the day.
Thank you!
that's actually the humidity you should be growing at during this stage of the plant's life, the 60%, not the 40% Rh, 40% at this stage would be considered over transpiration and if the plants transpire too much then they wont grow as much.
In relation to the spike idk man, it could even be a result of their transpiration going too hard and they end up making the whole tent's humidity go up.
it could also be a fan malfunction, a timer malfunction, it could be that the place where you are pulling air from the outside is a spot where humidity gathers during the peak of the day.... lots of things it could be, but sure as hell whatever did it took your humidity levels to the right ones.
stay lit growmie.
i experienced similar stuff but only during the night, without a dehumidifier it would go up to 99%Rh everynight, but if its only during the night it doesn't really hurt the plant as she is resting, other than to provide a possibility for fungus to settle in during the night.
We've made it to day 28! - 17/12/20
The girls seem to be happy and healthy today.
I won't be feeding/watering them as the pots are still heavy from yesterdays feed.
A few of the girls have started to show sex & the smell has picked up a little bit(inside the tent), so I'm hoping to see some flowering begin this week sometime.
(I've been using my iPhone as my only DSLR lens is useless for focusing on certain depths, but I hate the colour I get using the iPhone... I may be switching back to DSLR unless I can find a better camera app.)
update - day 29 (18/12/20)
Short update today.
Fed the girls today and will probably be feeding/watering every day from here on out, we'll see though.
veg growth has really taken off by now, I'm hoping to see some flowering this week.
update - day 30 (19/12/20)
I fed the girls today.
I need to find a better way to hand water, the plants are so short and bushy its a pain getting in between all the branches.
I wish i left my drip feed system up and running, I will definitely refine it and use it next run.
Update - day 31 (20/12/20)
Fed the girl's straight water today.
I'm going to purchase the pieces I need tomorrow to reconfigure my drip feed system & hopefully have it running by mid-week!
Update - day 32
I attempted to set up my drip feed system today but the plants are too thick around the base to place the halo around :(
I will have to wait until next season to set it up, oh well, I guess its hand watering for the next 5-10 weeks
Fingers crossed these girls start to flower ASAP.
I fed the girls today, everything is looking good so far.
I also moved the plants around to try to make hand watering easier, I had issues trying to water the whole pot instead of just one spot due to plants/branches being in the way.
Update - Day 34 - 23/12/20
It definitely seems ill be watering the girls every day from here on out.
All the girls look fairly happy and healthy, they're getting a bit big for the 5x5 they're in.
It looks like flowering has begun on 2 of the girls, hoping to see some more progress on the others in the next few days.
Thanks for stopping by! 🙏
Hi,
I'm still a beginner so I'm having a little battle in my own head about this.
Am I right in thinking as long as these girls have shown sex on a 20/4 light schedule they will start to flower soon?
Also, Photos require 12/12 to show sex right?
Thanks in advance.
Photo's show sex in veg, that's a sign of maturity, ideally you would want to wait for these to pop up before you flip them into flower.
Considering you are growing an auto you can flower under any schedule, 12/12, 24/0, its best to keep the same u got now but she will flower under any schedule. And yeah, since they showed them, they should be going into flower anytime soon.
Plants are looking good, stay lit growmie.
We have hit day 35 and everything's looking great!
Only 2 girls out of 8 have started flowering in the past day or two, the remaining six have shown sex and I'm anticipating flowering to begin sometime this week.
I gave them a full feeding today.
I'm using H&G Coco A+B, which is used from seed to harvest, unlike many other nutrient brands.
I will start using H&G Bud-XL in the next few days, luckily I got a bottle before the shops close for Christmas.
I didn't expect these autos to get so big so fast, but I'm definitely not complaining.
Update day 37 - 26/12/20
I fed the girls their first dose of bud-xl today.
5/8 girls have started to flower now, hopefully, in the next few days the other 3 start up!
Update: Day 40 - 29/12/20
6/8 girls are flowering now, the two that aren't are the 2 weird pheno runts..
I've submitted a grow question regarding the 2 weird girls.
I'm hoping that they're simply late to flower and not a photoperiod..
I've been feeding the girls 1-2 litres each every day, with a plain PH'd water run every 7-14 days.
Update day 41 - 30/12/20
All the girls have started to flower now :D
I'm incredibly happy to see them so healthy at this point too
I was almost going to put the 2 runts outside but I'm leaving them inside at this point.
Thanks for stopping by!
Merry Christmas/Happy holidays to all :)
I have had 6/8 girls start to flower this week, the girls that haven't yet is the topic of this question.
I have included pictures of the future flower sites on the runts and I was wondering if they're close to flowering yet?
I'm worried they're photos..
Any help is appreciated
The pictures you provided are plants already in flower. They might be a few days behind, but they're flowering. They may be smaller for several issues. Competing for light or just a different pheno, but if you're giving at least 18 hours of light and they look like this, then they're autos and you're fine. Good luck!
We have made it to day 42! 31/12/20
All the girls have started flowering now!
I'm super keen to see them start to thicken up.
Feeding as usual, nothings changed.
Update - day 46 04/01/21
I'm a little concerned about the 2 runts that were laggin behind the rest, all of a sudden theyve decided they want to take up most of the room in the tent.
I've never grown autos so big..
I was contemplating putting the runts outside but it's just going to make more problems as my outdoors are under attack from some kind of bug.
I will keep the diary updated on the runts, other than that the other girls are doing just great, flowering is really coming along.
Thanks for stopping by!
So we've hit day 49 with the girls!
Everyone seems to be happy.
The 2 little runts are now the biggest in the crop, they're super stretchy and about a week behind in flowering.
I hope to be able to harvest all the plants at once as I plan to dry in my tent, but if I have to do a staggered harvest then, I guess I gotta do it.
Nutes are listed above, everything has been working excellent so far.
(I may be trying different coco nutes next run, as I'm suspecting the H&G set I'm using has contributed to the stretchiness of the girls.)
UPDATE - DAY 51 - 09/01/21
Everything seems to be just fine at this stage in time.
the runts are flowering slowly, so i hope they pick up sometime soon.
1 of the plants(the healthiest since day 1) seems to be a week or so ahead in flower.
I'm still hoping to chop the whole tent down at the same time (Fingers crossed!).
UPDATE - Day 53 - 11/01/21
The girls seem to be happy today.
Pheno type 1 ( plant 1 + 2) - Much more bud production than the rest of the plants.
pheno type 2 (plant 3 + 4) - runts of the litter are now the stretchiest out of the lot
Pheno type 3 (remainder of plants) are inbetween pheno 1 & 2.
I'm still hoping to harvest the majority of the girls at the same time, still have a while to go though :)
Thanks for stopping by!
I was just checking my girls when I noticed this leaf hidden away.
I have no idea what it's from, so I thought I'd ask here.
There was literally 1 leaf like this on the entire plant, I couldn't find another, although it's in a hard to reach spot.
Any help is appreciated! 🙏
If it was a older leaf. Possibly had minor issues in past I would not worry about it. Now if other leaves start showing signs I would be checking run off ph immediately. Good luck and happy growing. 🌲🌲🌲👊
I recently found 1 leaf extremely damaged on 1/8 plants in my tent.
I have now noticed the problem spreading slowly.
Could anybody tell me what this is?
I have included pics,
1st pic is the leaf i found 3 days ago
2nd pic is of the leaf i broke off today
Thank you!
Hi !
Dit is volgens mij een calciumtekort.
Kijk even je ph waarde na, om te zien of alle voedingsstoffen nog goed worden opgenomen.
Ik raad je aan om hier verder informatie over op te zoeken🙂
Succes en blijf groeien!🌱🤙
Since day 1 I've had 3 different phenos of this GG grow.
Pheno 1 & 2 are pretty much at the same stage, but the pace of pheno 3 is 1-2 weeks behind the rest.
I'm not sure what to do as I plan to dry in my tent, a staged harvest isn't the best option
Any tips?
Pics included
THX
Thoughts of all ones eggs in the same basket come to my mind.....
After growing for a while, you will realise that you will need a dedicated drying "zone", especially if growing multiple strains, as they will all finish when it is convenient for them and maybe not so convenient for you. As you have found out, even plants of the same strain have different ideas to their sisters or what is written on the packaging. Drying elsewhere is really your only option or getting somewhere else/new to finish the late bloomer. Or, maybe the other two were "early bloomers"? I can never work it out. Whatever you decide, remember to not have light shining on your drying flowers, this will degrade the cannabinoids and terpenes as fast as you can say "Jimminy Crickets". Hope this helps,.... Organoman.
Day 56! - 14/01/21
Girls are pretty happy.
The 2 runt phenos are annoying me now theyre the stretchiest in the tent, taking up heaps of room and still barely getting any light..
One of the girls has a calcium issue, which is odd, but im hoping to combat it before its too late.
Definitely going to have to do a staged harvest, not what I wanted but hey, gotta do what you gotta do.
Thanks for stopping by.
Day 63 - 21/01/21
Most of the girls are happy.
The girl with the deficiency is completely depleted but still slowly producing flowers.
I think she will be first to come down as I will be doing a staggered harvest.
I will keep this diary updated over the coming weeks.
Thanks!
The girls are looking pretty contempt at the moment.
I will be taking down the deficient girl within the next week or so.
I will also be harvesting the 2 outdoor girls around the same time.
I will keep the journal updated as the days pass.
Thanks for stopping by!
Hi there!
I had to harvest a little early due to multiple reasons.
Today(Day 77) I cut down 7 plants.
The 2 outdoor girls went straight into the freezer for live rosin later down the track.
1 of the indoor girls(the deficient one) was also put straight into the freezer.
The remaining 4 have had the larger fan leaves removed and hung up in the tent for drying.
I will keep this updated as the days go on.
Thanks for stopping by!
IsseyBukkake
