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The DosiDo seed couldn't shed its shell and died so I had to pop a second seed, this is the small plant in the middle. I have two of the Glue Factory seedlings going as I am not sure if they feminized seeds.
I have up potted all the seedling to 1 gal pots with (FFOF + 20% perlite + 20 EWC). No additional nutrient needed yet, the FFOF still has everything they need. Only watering when pots are nicely dried out, I would rather them show a little stress from being over dry then over water them! I also topped the: Gelato, Crescendo RBX1, and the two Glue Factory plants, this was mostly to give the DoSiDo that was planted a week after the others a chance to catch up.
I up potted to 3gal pots with (FFOF + 20% perlite + 20% EWC + 1TBSP/Gal of Gaia 444). The FFOF is still probably enough but I wanted the plants to start getting used to the Gaia dry amendments as I plan on using using them for top dressing during the grow. I have now toped the Do Si Do as well, will be putting the SCROG on soon.
I had to purchase a humidifier as the cold weather outside along with the heat from my lights and exhaust we pushing the humidity down to about 20%-25%. With the humidifier added the growth has really picked up, the plants didn't like it with the VPD way out! Started doing a little bit of LST on the Gelato (front right) as its getting a bit tall, need to keep it under the screen height. Also gave away one of the Glue Factory plants. Unfortunately I still haven't been able to sex the two Glue Factory so I hope the one I picked is a female. The other strains were sexed via pre flowers around week 3-4, all females.
Put the screen on to start training. The Gelato (front right) and the Crescendo RBX1 (Back left) are starting to spread out with good branching. The DoSiDo and Glue Factory are close to pushing into the screen. Still not seeing any pistols on the Glue Factory pre flowers though. They are still so tiny I am looking at them through a digital microscope, still hard to tell but I think most look like female preflower, finger crossed.
The Glue Factory finally started showing its sex, was starting to get worried it was going to be a male. I gave all the plant their first top dressing last watering at (3/4cup EWC + 1.75TBSP/Gal - Gaia 444) as I might still have them vegging for another couple weeks before flipping. Not sure this top dressing was necessary but wanted to be safe, they have been in the FFOF for about three weeks and didn't want them to start running out of nutrient before their final up pot a few days before I flip them.
I decided to do a final transplant to a 15gal instead of a 7gal pot. I did this because I didn't want to end up having to water each day, it wouldn't just be hard on me but also the beneficial bacteria and fungi. Got to keep them thriving so they can feed my plants. I am very happy how the plants reacted to the transplant, showing new growth right away. I am going to flip these ladies to 12/12 tonight. There is still some filling to do on the screen but I worry that the stretch on the Gelato and Crescendo RBX1 might be a lot to contend with. I do think I should still be able to fill the screen up though. Today is the first day of week nine.
Final Soil Mix:
-1 bag of FFOF
-20% perlite (2gal)
-20% EWC (2gal)
-3 tbsp/gal of Gaia 444/284 at (50/50) (This worked out to a cup of each 444 and 284)
-2 tbsp/gal of Gaia Kelp Meal (This worked out to 1cup + 1/3 cup)
-Myco - I dusted the root balls misted with water.
Just into week two of flowering. It has been a busy week SCROGing and defoliating under the screen each night. These plants are stretching out nicely and filling the rest of the screen in, should be very close to full once they are done stretch. I have been pushing the dry cycle a bit to try and encourage the roots to spread out into their 15 gal pots, only watering the centers where the roots are and letting the rooted area dry out more then I normally would. I have also been lowering the lights every few days and went from about 500lux to 600lux this last week, I will keep lowering until my lights are at least 650lux (sorry I don't have a PAR meter). I might be able to push the lights a bit further but will have to be carful as they are crazy strong. Starting to see budlets on all plants, should mostly be done stretching at the end of week two here. At the end of stretch I will do my first top dressing to get those bloom nuts pumped up for flower. I am absolutely loving the organic water only thing, plants are happy and so am I.
Another busy week, the ladies needed lots of LST early this week as they have been stretching like crazy. Close to the end of week 9 I noticed that a had a bit of a deficiency on the Crescendo RBX1, I suck at identifying deficiencies but think she was lacking some K. I Did my first flower top dress a few days early with Gaia and EWC, recipe below. Also did a water with liquid Kelp at 1/2 strength to help the deficiency on the Crescendo RBX1 as the dry amendments might take a few days to kick in. Felt like the microbes could use a boost so I fed them a simple compost tea yesterday. Today they are absolutely happy as can be all praying and looking very healthy. Good bud development the last two days, they are starting to stack so stretch should hopefully be done soon. I will do a bit more work evening the canopy out but soon its time to just let them go and do their thing.
Top Dressing at day 12 of flower:
30/70 Gaia (444/284) at 2 tbsp/gal - Note: I only calculated for 10gal as I just transplanted to 15 gal pots two weeks ago and figured they will have only filled about a 10gal with root thus far.
Per 15 gal pot:
- 1.25 CUP EWC
- 14 tbsp Gaia 284
- 6 tbsp Gaia 444
Compost Tea:
-brewed for 36hrs
- 2 Cups EWC
- 2 tsp molasses
One more week down and with stretch fully done these ladies are starting to stack up nicely. The deficiency I had previously on the Crescendo RBX1 has continued to get worse despite a dry amendment of kelp meal and continuing to feed liquid kelp with watering's, this plant must be a K pig. It hasn't even been two full weeks since I did my first top dressing but due to the deficiency on the Crescendo I just did a second top dressing, see amount below. I also gave them another AACT to water in the dry amendments and give the microbes a boost, recipe below. This was a very heavy top dressing, hopefully it is enough to keep up with the Crescendo! If I can't kick this decency I might move the lights up a bit in hopes of not driving them quite as hard.
The buds are starting to smell great, the Do-si-do and glue factory are both smelling dank and the gelato and Crescendo are smelling sweet like baking. All are staring to frost up nicely, with Crescendo and GlueFactory having the most frost followed by the Do-Si-do and gelato in last place with the lest frost.
Forgot to mention that I started noticing some thrips in my leaves. To combat them naturally I got some predatory mites, N cucumeris and Hypoaspis miles. It could take a few weeks for these guys to take hold but I have already noticed four days later that I am seeing less of thrips. Luck I caught them early. If you are in BC Canada a good place for biological controls is "The Bug Lady" I have used her before for predatory mites for an outdoor garden. Both times they have been very informative and quick at shipping. I don't like to spray with anything so biological control are my go to.
Dry Amendment / top dressing:
Note: This was at 2tbsp/gal per 15gal pot of Gaia with a ratio of 70%/30% for 284/444.
-1.5 cup EWC
-1.25 cup Gaia 284
-.5 cup Gaia 444
Compost Tea:
-1.5 cup EWC
-1/4 cup kelp meal
-2 tbsp. insect fras
-bubble for 36hrs
I am just going to focus on the issue with my Crescendo RBX1 today. The other three plants are all looking good, they do have a bit of tip burn from the last feeding but very minimal.
The Crescendo has taken drastic turn for the worse over this last week. After my last top dress the issue continued to get significantly worse, this made me wonder if it was a deficiency and not instead a sensitivity to the nuts. With my last heavy top dressing I must have fried her good :( . Her water consumption took a dive this week also making me think I fried her roots. I took soil ph incase it was that but it was sitting at a nice 6.5-6.6. Before my watering yesterday I pulled the top couple inches of soil out trying to remove some of the excess nutrients, then topped with some fresh base soil mix. I am not sure what to do with this one now? I think I will be lucky to finish her at the speed she is deteriorating but will do what I can to limp her there.
If you have any suggestions for me please let me know in the comments. Look forward to learning what I did wrong here so I can prevent it from happening next round when I run the Crescendo again.
Base Soil Mix:
1 bag FFOF
20% EWC
20% perlite
Anyone have any advice on the above issue? A lack of experience means my instinct is often wrong ;). My diary has everything I have done to her. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
My first guess would be calcium lockout because there are too many bloom nutes in your soil. Without EC measurements, I couldn't say for sure.
A bad pH could also cause a deficiency like this.
Buds are continuing to fill out, looking nice and frosty! The smell in my grow room is just amazing. The Do-Si-Dos is going to have some nice fat buds. The Crescendo RBX1 will still be lucky to finish, should be able to get her close though, fingers crossed. The gelato has the smallest buds but they are still looking frosty and delicious. The glue factory is looking great as well, has the nicest dank sweet smell.
Pretty much on auto pilot now, just watering ever 3-4 days with 2ml per gal GH CalMag and 4ml per gal Kelp. Will do one more compost tea later this week.
Starting to think about my next run. I have three out of four plants that I am set on running, but am still undecided on the fourth. Let me know in the comment what you think I should run for my fourth plan next round, have listed the options below.
Next Run - The plants I will be running for sure.
* CopyCat - APPLEZ & BANANAZ S1
* CopyCat - Cherry Runtz S1
* CopyCat - SOUR APPLE GELATO S1
Next Run - Potential Fourth Plant
* CopyCat - The Big Stuff S1
* CopyCat - ECSD
* CopyCat - Gary Payton
* CopyCat - Grape Ape
* Elev8 - Head Cake
* Ethos - Mandarin Zkittlez
* Ethos - Crescendo rbx1 (run again because I messed her up this time)
These ladies are in the middle of week seven flower. I have moved the lights a bit further away for final ripening. Starting to see some fade on the Gelato and Do-si-dos, with the Glue Factory barely showing any brown pistols yet I feel like its is still the longest away. Crescendo RBX1 seems to be starting to ripen, not expecting much from her because of the damage but dam is she ever frosty and smelling amazing.
The gelato is looking like it is starting to get close, I would expect it the be the first plant to finish and might be ready for harvest in a week or two.
The smell in my grow room is blowing my mind, I guess its the two cookies crosses as its a strong sweet baking smell. Its like walking into a candy shop!
Very minimal work now just watering from here on out, with a touch for kelp for those that still have a bit more developing/ripening to do. I have stopped adding the 2ml/gal of calmag.
Plans for next run: I am going to run all CopyCat gear, hope it lives up to the hype.
- Applez & Bananaz
- Sour Apple Gelato
- East Coast Sour Diesel
- Cherry Runtz
In the middle of week 8 now and plants are finishing up nicely. Haven't given them anything but water this last week. The smell in the room has me drooling every time I check on it ;).
Gelato: All cloudy trichomes with a bit of amber, will be harvesting the gelato tops soon. Have decided to do a phased harvest to attempt to let the lower ripen a bit more.
Crescendo RBX1: Most cloudy trics now and some amber. This will be the second plant that gets chopped. Despite all the damage she still looks like she is going to finish. Maybe a week or two away.
Glue Factory: The trics on this one are about 70% cloudy but it has more amber already then the other plants. Trichrome development seems further along then plant it self, seems a little strange as it just started getting some brown pistols now and is just starting to ripen. Maybe it is going to finish fast? Starting to get some leaf damage from thrips on this plant, next round I will do everything I can to prevent them: Add neem cake to the soil / top cover, will spray safer soap in veg, ......
Do-so-dos: This lady still has lots of clear trichomes and seems to be the furthest behind at the moment. Maybe another three weeks or so on this one?
Gelato:
Harvested the Gelato tops earlier this week. The trics on the tops were nice a cloudy, the lowers still had lots of clears though (hoping they lowers still finish up nicely!). The tops dried over the last five days and weighted around 4.5oz when I put them into jars for curing. Will give a proper smoke / harvest report when once they are done curing. The smoke test was great considering they were not cured, nice trippy day time smoke with a long high!
Crescendo RBX1:
I also harvested a few of the Crescendo RBX1 tops. I thought they were looking done but when I gave them a scope after chopping the lower buds on the tops still had a lot of clear trichomes, oops. I did test a couple of the buds and it was still strong as hell though, but more racy then I would have liked for an Indica! I will let the rest of the plant go a while longer.
Do-di-Dos:
She is finishing up nicely, buds still putting on a bit more weight. Most trics are still clear so at least a week or two to go. Seeing a bunch of thrip damage on the do-si-dos as well, not affecting the buds but still makes me crazy. Next run I am going to deal with those thrips for good hopefully ;)!
Glue Factory:
This one has been fattening up nicely this last week. Buds are looking awesome but still a ton of white pistols and clear trics, dare I say at least two-three weeks. Lots of thrip damage showing on this one as well.
I have dimmed my lights down even more, now sitting at 40K Lux. With the warmer weather I will probably need to put my AC in the room soon.
Starting to get close to being done, today is the first day of week 10 flower. I will probably start chopping a week from today but it could still be two weeks depending on how the trichomes look.
I took a test buds off each of the plants today. These were all bottom buds and the ones used to scope the trichomes pics you see above. Happy with how they are looking but I think another weeks is in order to finish them up.
The Crescendo has a nice grape smell now that seems to be getting stronger, leaves are getting purple as well.
Dos-si-do look like she is mostly done, not a lots of white pistols and looking nice and ripe. Trichromes still have a bit to go though.
Glue Factory still has lots of white pistols and trichromes also still have a bit to go. If any of them are going to need two more weeks its going to be this one.
Gelato: Only the bottom buds are still on the plant finishing up ripening. The trics were fully clear on these when I chopped the tops, but they should finish up nicely now. I will let these go until I drop the last of the other plants.
When this run is done I am going to do a heavy cleaning on them room, maybe paint my table and trellis stand. Will then re-amend my soil, will include some neem meal for pest prevention. Then will get ready to do battle with the thrips, I intend on eliminating them completely before flipping the next round. I hate to see the thrip damage on my plants and look forward to eliminating those bastards, not sure how easy is going to be so fingers crossed. I have diatomaceous earth, pyrethrum powder and neem oil in my arsenal and will try and find some spinosad if need be. Not sure where top get the Spinosad in Canada, but will keep that as a last resort as it seems hard to track down.
Hi all, just a quick update.
All plants have been chopped and dried and are now in jars curing. I will post again with my final harvest / smoke reports once buds are all cured. I am very happy with the quality on this batch. I have attached a couple bud shots. I have also started my next grow and will be setting up a new diary soon. I am running all CopyCat gear this round: Apples and Bananas, Cherry Runtz, ECSD and Sour Apple Gelato. I will post a link to the new diary once it gets started.
Weight going into jars for curing:
Gelato: 8 oz (letting the bottom bud ripen an extra two weeks worked great as they ended up solid and potent. Unfortunately trimming 5oz of smalls sucked big time. Even the tops were small on this girl, but very nice buds none the less)
Do-di-dos: 6 oz
Glue Factory: 5oz
Crescendo RBX1: 4oz
Very vigorous plant that was easy to grow with great bud, I will probably run this one again. Might be fun to do a pheno hunt of this strain to see if I can find some fire.
This Gelato is nice and currently my go to daytime strain. It produced a great amount of bud. I have had stronger gelato's before, this could have just been the pheno. But I would probably not run this brand of gelato again.
This was a nice strain to grow with a decent yield. I enjoy the smoke but would have like it to be a bit more potent and for that reason will probably not run it again.