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Ner0z
Ner0zstarted grow question 3 years ago
These seedling are 10 days old but have slowed in growth and appear droopy. They are in promix hp with perlite 18/4 lighting roughly 76 degrees 55-60% rh. Watering daily @6.1 ph 220ppm due to the heaters drying the mediumand cardboard containers. Don't think its overwater but idk
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Leaves. Curl down
Leaves. Color - Pale
Plant. Wilting
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 3 years ago
I have tried those "biodegradable, plant directly" cups before and found two main/big problems with them. 1 - it takes forever for the roots to grow through the cardboard once you do plant them, and 2 - keeping the soil in the cups moist. They cardboard acts lick a wick and sucks all the moisture out of the soil. I found that as soon as the cardboard was dry, the soil was over dry and the only way to know if the soil was still moist, was if the cardboard was also moist. So, going on your info, warm air blowing, creating even more evaporation, heater pad and giving your babies cal/mag are all combining to make them unhappy in my opinion. Also, those cups are pretty small in volume, so the roots will be hitting the bottom and possibly burning from a combination of dry soil and the heater pad. Another thing, with so much perlite, which is inert/has no nutritional value and is really only for heavy soil with poor drainage, means that what little actual soil there is, will run out of nutrients pretty quickly. This is why the cheaper soil mixes have so much perlite, they want you to spend lots of money on high profit fertilizers! Good quality, well drained healthy soil only needs 3-5% perlite at most and probably none really. So, what to do? In my opinion, first give your babies a really good drink with plain water, until you can feel the cardboard is also wet/moist. Remove the heat pad to stop the cups from drying out so fast. Ensure there is no warm air blowing directly on your plants or their cups, this will only burn the leaves and rapid dry your cups. Your seedlings do not need any nutrients at this size/age, they are still small and delicate. If you are leaving watering until they are weightless, this is waaaay too dry, causing the droopy leaves. You want the soil moist, but not wet and some weight to the cups. I would also be considering transplanting the seedlings into bigger pots with fresh soil, sooner rather than later. I found that by carefully making some slits in the sides and bottom of the cardboard cups prior to transplanting, allowed the roots to "escape" from the cups much more easily and quickly. (I am a mad scientist and conduct all kinds of research/experiments. Too much time on my hands, being stuck at home with a disability I suppose. Besides, TV drives me nuts!) Also, is there nowhere else besides the garage that you could put your set-up? You seem to be having temp problems already and this could become an issue for your entire grow cycle. Much better if you could have it in the main house. If not, a standing column heater (oil filled) works well as a radiant heater without having hot air blowing on the plants, as hot air is going to cause all sorts of grief, as you have found out. Perhaps next time, start your babies in 3 or 4 inch plastic pots, they dry out much slower and make transplanting much easier as the soil/roots/plant just slide out, meaning the roots don't have to battle a cardboard membrane for freedom and accelerated growth. Deep pots work best - 4 inches wide by 5 inches deep are my favourites, as it allows enough depth for good root growth and enough volume to provide enough soil nutrition until they are big enough for transplanting, without the need to feed them before transplanting, assuming a decent soil mix. Good luck and happy growing, you are embarking on a voyage of discovery and learning, also a hobby for life! Feel free to message me if you have any questions. Hope this helps,..... Organoman.
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Ner0z
Ner0zanswered grow question 3 years ago
Thank you for your responses. To give more info I am using a heat mat along with a small ceramic heater as the temperatures in the garage are very cold. I have been finding the medium drying out more quickly than I'd like due to this. My lights are the mars hydro tsw2000 which I've had at 100% power at 24". Im only watering when I feel the soil is weightless and dry but when I do water I water to 20% run off. The only nute I've added is calmag @ 1ml/g. So after reading what you've said i will turn my humidifier up 5% and remove the heat mat. Raise my lights to 30" @75%. And adjust my heater to low fan setting same temps. Next water i will cut the calmag and test run off for soil ph. Ill let u guys know if any of that works. Im open to any other suggestions as this is my first grow thank you very much
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Esoteric_growing
Esoteric_growinganswered grow question 3 years ago
It looks like over watering but those symptoms can also be caused by the light too close or having a heat mat provide too much heat to the roots. If by heater you mean heat mat create a few cm/inch between the mat and the tray. Make sure the light is not too intense and let the pots dry out. I hear what the other guy is saying about creating more humidity but they are not fresh clones so in my opinion this isn’t the problem. My seeds are at the same stage yours are with only a few % more humidity and are fine. Hope this helps pal👍
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Roberts
Robertsanswered grow question 3 years ago
The spots on the one look like nute burn. Droopy leaves can be a sign of over watering. Would let them dry out a little more and see if they perk up. I would not dome them at this point. Can invite fungus or mold by extra humidity. Sounds like your RH is in range. Would only use plain ph'd water when watering at this point. The first 10 to 14 days they don't need nutes. If soil was hot prior to planting, could be the issue. Only have so much information to go off off. Happy growing and hope this helps.
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Nor_Cal_Kannabliss
Nor_Cal_Kannablissanswered grow question 3 years ago
Get some clear solo cups to throw over them and make a makeshift humidity dome. 🤘😤
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