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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1started grow question 8 months ago
What causes it continued, the leaves were looking better but they haven't really started to veg, the ones receiving the least amount of light that were the largest aren't looking that great. This might be the worst condition.
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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
They look like there doing well under the light with the highest PPFD but only about half of those large container plants are growing but im thinking it is somewhat solved but my water isn't solved only the fresh fill. It could be a filter and something else combination.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
8x8 are the probably the biggest tents you could fill without wanting to do more, its mostly visual stimuli after that but what is causing it.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
Its difficult to add a 6.5x6x5 tent if you don't have any space, but thats been the thought pattern on these lights but they shouldn't burn or they wouldn't add them.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
I think the HLG is like a space heater that would need an exhaust in a tent otherwise it can warm a larger room up to growing temperatures if its cold at night. Im not thinking it was the light at all but those are my thoughts and its probably safe than a space heater because they don't fall at all. I added some more nutrients to the other plants receiving less PPFD but they haven't really shown any signs of growth, it looks like the 2 gallons are starting to show signs of growth but its pretty slow getting this to work.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
The HLG ballast is kind of hot, you can touch it but you can't really hold your hand it like the actual board but thats all I can say about these things, I can't really replace it because it works but I think if your ceilings are high enough you could put them in a growtent but you need larger spaces to fit tents. Ive used the light for quite awhile, they've used HID lighting for years, Im not sure. Ive yet to see a melted wire on it. I did think they looked better when I checked them, some of them I added another half litre of nutrient solution.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
What I find surprising is how much yellowing and leaf damage theres been, its difficult to look at.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
The topping was successful and is showing growth on the 1 litre transplants but nothing really yet on the 2 gallon or large size containers that were started originally. I don't think its the coco because of the purpling.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
One of the most mysterious symptoms that these are showing is purpling spots on the leaves like you would see in cold weather but its been 78-80f in the room but only a couple of the plants not all of them. All of the transplanted clones started to yellow on the lower leaves but had excessive clawing after being fed meaning any addition of freshwater was starving them as in the nutrient strength wasn't to high but what caused the burning.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
It can take a few days to see growth from topping plants and I usually don't but that is my only thought that if they don't show any growth something is doing that. The light itself has always worked, it worked for quite awhile last year keeping plants alive, they were ok in early January under a 65w light but it wasn't until early February that I noticed there was something wrong and that was in a different location than the current light, it could be the same thing but there was no problems with the other light.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
The only indicator im getting is yellow with no growth but lots of root growth, I added another half litre of nutrient solution after the 1 litre of fresh the previous day. The bug damage is there but that usually isn't the cause of them not growing.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
I used the shop vac again to clean up the water and I couldn't really get it to read as in it only flashed 0.2-0.4 once and I couldn't get it to flash again so thats strange because usually when this happens there reading 1.2 to 1.4 and you need to get it down to 0.8, its not a really accurate way of testing the coco but if there burned and you read 1.4 on the runoff im pretty sure thats whats causing it.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
I transplanted some of the additional clones into 1 litre containers but they looked sickly pale green, not sure how to work through this because im not able to figure out why two of the smallest clones grew in there containers but the others either looked awful or not good at all. The smallest clone with the least amount of growth was growing new growth from nothing. It doesn't make any sense at all. The clones that are in large containers, im not sure if I can save this grow. The question is whats causing it.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
One of the clones was so fried that I didn't think it was a nutrient that did it.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
4 weeks of no its not.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
I cut the tops off of all of the plants because if any of them grow I can see but this was not caused by a nutrient solution, they don't go pale sickly green and yellow and claw that easily while the same plant growing next to it is healthy.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
Only one plant of one strain looks healthy enough and im not sure whats causing the burning on the other strain because a couple of those plants are healthy and growing which doesn't make any sense at all because they were all fed the exact same nutrient solution...
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
Im really easy going with starting plants, this looks not good to me.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
Some of the additional transplants were quite burnt after receiving a litre of nutrient solution and I added additional fresh.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
Ive never had a clone burn on 2ml/gal ab and 2ml/gal procal after being transplanted or with an established root system.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
Imagine this perfectly healthy clones grown to 6-12" and then transplanted and whats left on some of the plants is not a single fan leaf because they were so severely damaged that I had to remove them so all thats left is a skinny stem with only growing nodes.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
They look ok again today but it looks like im loosing a clone in a really small container, one of the smallest sizes you can use after transplanting from a pellet or a small coco pot and not the size id use for a bonsai. Ive had this happen before where they've wilted in these small containers after awhile.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
I just looked and the leaves were pointing straight up but the ones receiving low light levels aren't looking as happy, it looks like they could grow now. Ive used the shop vac about 3 times and removed about 20+ gallons of water off the floor and there still some on the floor. Thats a pretty significant amount of washing.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
Im not sure what there doing.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
I looked at them with the lights off with a low wattage light on and to me it looks like there underfed but some of them are probably damaged from before but im basically adding a litre of nutrient solution hoping that some of them recover and if not I might need to move them to a different location which is really awkward because I can't talk to anyone about the altercation that easily.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
My brain isn't able to process the question because if you feed them 6ml/gal ab when there large in veg and they get over fertilized and you feed them fresh water the leaves start to yellow and you continue feeding sometime afterwards at 5ml/gal ab and they look green and nice again, but this is not the problem. Its like something else, you feed them and nothing.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
That is 2ml/ab and procal after rooting a small container and transplanting into a larger container, they don't burn and claw.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
Some of the plants are heavily spider mite damaged and some of them look like they would grow but there stuck and not growing, some of them are clawed from before but any addition of water caused lower leaf yellowing and nutrients did sort of show some growth on a couple of plants but there only not growing at all, ive only had green healthy plants starting at 2ml/gal ab and procal. There are plants that are growing on the top of the coco that were in the bag.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
If its not the nutrients and its not the filter, its not possible
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
Theres no solution if they don't start vegging.
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