The ph meter I have works very well for a year now, but I'm thinking about buying another to see how far its calibration has gone off. It's the Yinmik YK-P01. and has good reviews. It's only 11 dollars. the TDS meter I bought however I did not skimp on its the Blue Labs truncheon commercial and that was 120. It does not give precise readings but is very reliable and used widely in agriculture but if you are doing a lot of bottle feeds you are going to need something that measures more precicly. for my organic style of growing I only need a ballpark on my tds reedings