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How to increase yeilds in a setup like this…
XanHalenstarted grow question a month ago
I’m wondering what I can do past GH trio for my Autoflowers to increase yeilds and stretching during flower, beyond upping bloom nutes which I will do around week 7 or when I see veg growth slow down.
These girls have been on GH trio since week 3, THIS IS MY FIRST GROW. thx guys
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00110001001001111Oanswered grow question a month ago
light = yield. basic competency in other regards required too.
50-60 g sq/ft is about all you can do. doesn't matter which method you use. it's not magic.
It's all about the plant. some are better thanothers and you cannot put lipstick on a pig no matter how much effort you put into it. Clones are the best way to maximize production in a predictable way. Seeds will more often run into a weak plant occassionally.. .you'll also get a small percentage of hermaphrodites over time, too.
Several studies show amping up p and k in bloom do nothing for yield or pootency. this is an old urban myth. Simply give enough to avoid deficiencies and avoid toxicities. find the upperthreshold where problems start then dial back. It'll be very similar for most plants after that with only minor adjustments needed. if you do that you know you are providing enough building blocks relative to growth rate. That's all you can do with fertilizer. the fertilizers doesn't cause bigger buds. competently feeding the plant in a healthy way maximizes what the genetics allow.
all the marketing about 'bigger, tasteir, better buds or roots' is all nonsense. you need a proper balance at a concentration relative to growth rate. Light and co2 are your primary factors for growth. If giving 35-40DLI you are probably maxing out ambient co2. You need 55-ish DLI to maximize 1200-1300ppm of CO2 levels.
proper VPD helps reach limits of genetics too. but again, all of this done right for some shitty genetics will still be a shitty plant... it'll be slightly more shitty if you didn't do things well, lol.
some of this stuff has a good roi, some does not. Basic environmental control, proper habits (well-balanced ferts, watering, canopy management, etc), good light and you'll have 90-95% of potential... the rest is heavier investment for less return.
I would do things in a fiarly basic way at first. form a good baselien, then add new products or layers of sophistication 1 step at a time. that way you can compare results to your expereince and decide if it is worth it or not to continue the new behaviour, then move on to next new thing of interest to you to test. More times than not what tehy promise is utter bullshit because it is more profitable selling bullshit than truth.
Newt_Loopanswered grow question a month ago
I run the GH Trio myself.
If you're in medium that already has nutrients, you might not need to start adding nutrients until the 4-6 week mark.
I use the GH Trio at 50% the recommended dose. I also use CALiMAGic at 5 ml/gal.
The below is some good information on the GH Trio as well as the feed chart I use.
https://www.growweedeasy.com/general-hydroponics-flora-trio-guide
You can top and lst your autos for higher yield.
I like to top them at day 14 from sprout and as soon as the branches grow, start lst with plant clips.
My Auto Tent #1 Diary shows the topping, LST, and the result of it.
Minimizing stress for Autos is also something that needs to be done. Don't transplant them, start in final pot.
Watering practices and stable environment are also very important.
Bigger pots may help, I would do minimum of 5 gallon for Autos.
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00110001001001111Oanswered grow question a month ago
50-60g sq/ft is for ambient co2 levels and a light that maximizes that carbon intake.
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VitaMananswered grow question a month ago
Personaly I would rather have quality over quantity. Whats more pleasant to smoke/vape, an 100 grams of great tasting pot, or a kilo of harshness?
There's a lot of snake oil marketing out there. Pseudo-science sounds believable 😒
Some products are good BUT LOOK FIRST to the basics of Light, Environment, Water and basic Nutrition. The weakest one will limit your results.
** Healthy Roots equals Healthy Fruits! **
I agree with Ultraviolet. Fall down. Get back up. Find your footing. There's almost no limit to the problems you will solve! I hope you find it fun. Your results will gradualy improve.
If there are specific issues or techniques this is a great place to ask. 😁
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Scrubbyjimbobanswered grow question a month ago
General Hydroponics is a line that I've used for many years. It works. You're gonna find many who overcomplicate their grows with two dozen supplements but with most you'll find little to no improvement. Generally it's your light that's your limiting factor in a grow. Focus investment there.
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Hashyanswered grow question a month ago
Yep others have given good advice.
1. Good light distribution.
2. Good genetics.
3. Good environment.
4. Good watering practices.
Read about DLi so you can get the best out of your light, to much will harm it as much as to little light.
Look through diaries so you can see what the quality of the genetics are before buying seeds.
Read about VPD so you can get your environment working as best as you can.
The nutes you have will do a good job, keep it simple until you're happy with how you can grow.
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Ninjabudsanswered grow question a month ago
Hey there just so you know light and genetics are the largest factors in yeilds. Yes nutes will help a small amount but just be cautious not to over do it thinking it will make your buds all extra big.
If you get around 200w of led per 2x2 griw area then you will see a huge increase in yeild compare to say just useing a 100w light in 2x2
Stay within what the bottle says for ml per gal and such and you should be fine. Maybe adding some cal mag to your mix might help
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Krisisanswered grow question a month ago
I agree with what previous posters said. I wanted to add that I think if you get the feeding dialed in with GH, or even sometimes if you don’t .. like me .. you can still get good yields. Then again, I’m not sure what you consider to be good yields. I have shitty lights and shitty equipment (mostly) and fuck up feedings and still satisfied with my yields with GH/TA. I do find that if I don’t add extra calmag, even with the micro part, I get deficiencies. I also add silica as well. Anyhow, congrats on your first grow
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Gram_Soloanswered grow question a month ago
You could try some Low stress training and lollypop , tie down the nodes and allow more air and light to reach to the plant which results in bigger faster yealds
Good luck mate 👍
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m0useanswered grow question a month ago
Congrats on your first grow. I would suggest just using what you got ATM and not trying to make it to complicated. Just get the basics down.
GH Trio is a nice start and good feed overall. In general the plant/genetics is going to determine the outcome/yeild more so then the nutrients. And then useing tools like HST/LST can also help boost yeilds. Most fertilizer brands are about the same inputs just different extras in some of them like PH buffers and wetting agents and stuff. Lighting can also affect it a bit. Red light helps stretching but I don't like to much of it in my grow. warm white and cool white LED's are where its at.
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