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Coco and soil mix question

Greenatgrowing
Greenatgrowingstarted grow question 2 days ago
I want to make a soil mix using soil, sand, perlite, vermiculite and coco coir as one of the soil conditioners to improve drainage etc. Question: coco has its own needs, cal mag, cation exchange, etc. how do people prepare, blend, feed and renew this type of a soil/coco mix
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Scrubbyjimbob
Scrubbyjimbobanswered grow question 2 days ago
In a context where you're using a combination of soil and coco, you just treat it like soil. It's really very similar to using peat moss but with the added benefit of not pushing your media more acidic or damaging wetland bogs. A lot of your premixes are using a soil/Coco blend already. Most of you having been doing it without even realizing it.
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Green_claws
Green_clawsanswered grow question 2 days ago
Sound like a plan for to many unknowns.. do you know what feed your going to give.. coco or soil nutes?.. it is possible I do it from time to time but soil is the way forward. I have a big batch in a massive container in the back yard that I add thinks too to prepaid it for its next cycle. I havnt bought any Soils for years i create my own, adding some food wastes and waste from sprouted seed tea etc... it all goes in there with a splash of potassium humate to help breakdown, after a grow has finished il add that to the pile with the roots and they break down quick too.. it's free when you get a good rhythm going. Takes a bit of learning but in the long run saves you plenty cash... going into the wild and picking certain plants to break down it the soil is a must..
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ATLien415
ATLien415answered grow question 2 days ago
I personally would have a hard time sinking the effort to renew a coco mixture unless like your mixture it included soil. I have found that when I start with an inert base and build a living soil upon that, that after a cycle or two the soil is going outdoors. The trouble with remediating the blend is the primary reason I switched tek to hydro. When I would remediate that blend I would typically just refresh with some ocean forest, then top dress with recharge and great white. As far as preparing and blending, a 50:50 or 70:30 coco to perlite is a great place to start for the inert base. As long as you get properly washed coco (rather than bricks off temu for example) then you'll be close on the coco preparation. Perlite is pretty bad for your lungs too, so a prewash is often time consuming unless you, again, buy it pre-prepared commercially.
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AsNoriu
AsNoriuanswered grow question 2 days ago
I saw more troubles from mixes than not. Go either coco or soil. Don't get that style ... Here on platform, i see like 80% fail, especially when troubles starts, you don't know how to treat it...
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oldskoolkool
oldskoolkoolanswered grow question 2 days ago
BioTabs do some of the best dry amendments.They have a complete base food along with a number of other amendments and boosters.The German guy that does all the breeding for 420 fast buds uses it so it must be good.
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oldskoolkool
oldskoolkoolanswered grow question 2 days ago
The soil mix I'm using has 30$ coco in it.I add around 10% clay pebbles plus a single layer on the bottom of the pot. Its Canna,s bio terra plus.Canna is a quality company and I'm sure its tried and tested so I wouldn't mess about with it too much.Theres a lot to be said for the KISS approach. Keep It Simple Stupid.Less is certainly more when it comes to plants and nutrition.They'll do great with a little less but a little more is another story.
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00110001001001111O
00110001001001111Oanswered grow question 2 days ago
if coco is buffered properly it does not cause any change in nutrient requirements relative to any plant you put into it. When properly buffered it will not leach or release nutes as far as what is available to th eplant. coco is a pita, i'd just go with typical soil mix and add 'enough' drainage amendments to get to a 50/50 gas:water mixture, which is the goal. sure you can mix it in to the soil. If you are making a soil, i don't see a need to use it unless it saves some money etc. Better to keep it simple and just mix your soil any nutritional amendments with equal parts perite or vermiculite #3 or similar. The correct gas:water ratio does not require 3 or 4 different media. Playing mad scientist may make you feel like you are doing something unique and helpful, but it really just adds a bunch of effort for zero benefit. You can use one and add the draiiange elements as needed. If you use coco as the base, you only need 33% perlite (2:1) or similar amendment. consider the ratio of drainage element when working out how much nutrients to amend into it. if you had 1:1, you've basically cut the nutrition per volume in half. If you do choose to mix multiple media, do a weighted average for the necessary perlite or similar to add.
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