Vaporizer recommendation please

Mazko
Mazkostarted grow question 22d ago
Hey guys, I'm looking for a good vaporizer. I want to smoke both flower and hash and rosin. I was suggested the Pax Plus, but can you vaporize extracts well at 215 degrees? What can you recommend? Thanks in advance!
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Crusty_Juggler
Crusty_Juggleranswered grow question 21d ago
Definitely start out trying a cheap flower only vaporizor to see if it's something you like before investing too much into it. The Pax is a decent vaporizer, but it's also hyped and therefore overpriced, X-Vape Starry or similar would be a better beginner choice, if you find that you like vaping you will inevitably upgrade either way. No single vaporizer does all 3 cannabis formats well, except for maybe the Dynavap and other flame powered devices, but it's pretty much impossible to control the temperature so it often ends up combusting the material. If used with hash you'll spend more time cleaning than vaping and you'll be combusting quite a bit as well :)There are some flame powered deviced that are made specifically for hash, that should be easier to clean than the Dynavap. It's generally not really possible to vaporize hash, even if you pick it into really really small pieces, since at low temp they just melt back into a big piece and at high temp it begins to combust. It's ''possible'' to vape extracts at 215°C but it's very much on the low side, usually extract vaporizors' lowest setting is above 250°C, basically anything below 300°C is considered a ''cold dab''. There's probably a reason why Pax stopped adding the wax chamber on newer models but if it works for you is only possible to say if you try it out, though I would definitely put my money on no likey :) For flower there are a lot of options, if you want a true vaporization experience it must be 100% convection heating (i.e. hot air moving through the material that sits in a chamber rather than the chamber warming up). You can mix a little dry sift into grinded flower and use in a flower vaporizer to get it a little extra kick. Still I recommend starting with a cheap conduction vaporizor to find out if vaping is for you. For home a desktop balloon style vaporizor like the Volcano or the much cheaper Arizer XQ is the absolute best way to properly vape without risk of combustion. For extracts there are lot of great options but the absolute best choice to start out with is the Puffco Proxy, it's super versatile and can be used as a dry dab device with the pocket friendly Core or Stock Pipe and other non-water attachments and it can be used as a Peak with the BUB or as a big dab rig with an adapter. All the non-puffco stuff you can get for it makes it very useful and it's easier to find cheaper options when buying add-ons. There's a big risk that you will never touch flower again after getting used to the Proxy :)
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AsNoriu
AsNoriuanswered grow question 21d ago
If you wanna 215, better buy bong. I love stronger hit ( if i can say so) but i never go beyond 190. 180-185 is my sweet spot, if i want more flavours, than beeing stoned, i go for 170. Have Mighty for 5 years and still worksgreat, tried older versions of Pax, never worked so well as Mighty.
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00110001001001111Oanswered grow question 22d ago
This is about the point at which a wide range of molecules evaporate (boiling point). You can look this up for specifics as that is reference material easily found on your own. The more volatile terps will be absolutely mangled into random bits due to pyrolosis for the heat required to evaporate THC, so some loss is inevitable. The exact temperature you prefer will be about the stuff adding flavor, i'd assume. Just make sure it's hot enough to evaporate the active ingredient that gets you high. Some people want to "see" something.. which kinda defeats the perceived purpose of using a vape. Incomplete combustion and products of pyrolosis mentioned before will be random things and some of which can definitely be harmful to your health... same with smoke from a regular joint... incomplete combustion is never a positive.
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Altitonans_Fulmen
Altitonans_Fulmenanswered grow question 22d ago
Kinda what makes a big FAT CONE my favorite thing ever, because the temperature from the tip when burning is different as it burns down, the temp rises, the journey shifts as with the mind, such a beautiful plant. Self-contained thermal gradient. When you light up a fat cone, the smoke from the cherry passes over the unburnt herb further down the joint. That hot air actually vaporizes the low-temp, fragile terpenes (like those bright, uplifting limonene notes) ahead of the fire, acting like a natural vaporizer for the first few hits. Then, as the cherry moves down, the heat concentrates, the moisture drops, and you get that heavy, resin-packed, high-temp punch of myrcene and caryophyllene at the end. It really is a dynamic journey from the first puff to the roach. Enjoy that roll! 🌬️🔥 FCUK YEAH* I'm gonna roll me a big fatty right now*!
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Altitonans_Fulmen
Altitonans_Fulmenanswered grow question 22d ago
The Temperature-Terpene Matrix The temp with which you vaporize is strongly dictated by the predominant terpenes you wish to "experience" so to speak. Temperature directly controls which terpenes are released into your vapor, fundamentally shifting the dynamics of your high. When you alter the heat, you alter the ratio of active compounds entering your bloodstream. Terpenes vaporize at different boiling points. If you do not reach a terpene's boiling point, it stays behind. If you exceed it by too much, it can combust and degrade. Think of THC as the engine and terpenes as the steering wheel. By changing the temperature, you turn the wheel. Uplifting compounds like Limonene are fragile. Low-temperature vaping ensures they dominate the mix, guiding the THC toward a happy, creative, and clear-headed experience. Heavier compounds like Myrcene and Beta-Caryophyllene require higher thermal energy to volatilize completely. When you turn up the heat, these sedating compounds overwhelm the delicate notes, steering the experience toward deep muscle relaxation and sleepiness. Grandaddy Purp/ Jack herer/ Durban Poison these are not just "famous" just because; they already have synergistic terpene profiles/effects that align perfectly when expressed. When you smoke a strain, if the terpenes have conflicting "effects," sometimes this can leave you feeling like you are being pulled in different directions, and it's not always what one had hoped for from the high. Pineapple Express, for example, really just fries my short-term memory and makes me feel like a pineapple head; Gelatos just make me feel like a big mush of gelato; GDP is for creative study and focus. Sadly, the harder we as a community push for "yield," the more we dilute the very genetics we once loved through the "dilution effect". A call for an immediate return to a full rhizophagy growth cycle with correct and proper knowledge must be applied in order to maintain genetic concentration. Any variable voltage is great, but you need to know what you're smoking if you wish to dial in your experience. Been having a lot of fun recently with ripping multiple terpenes in varying combos, new and creative ways to pickle your brain and create new entourage effects.
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