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@Lucidite, I was also curious if I was in Veg. My first grow and I asked in Reddit and they said I was in pre-flower? Anyway, since these pictures, I’m now starting to see some frost develop on the leaves. So I’m for sure in flower now. And thanks for the advise on defoliating. I do take leaves off sometimes for this grow, but kinda like you said, mainly bottom leaves that can’t even be seen from top.