I will b running the SHERBCAKE again to dial her in properly took a lot clones of her so I can’t wait to run her again terps of her is dessert and fuely 🍰⛽️ seeds made by k1 kreationz

23.2.25: I watered with approximately 1.5 ltrs per plant. I mix 6.5ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.4. This time, I only added Ecothrive Biosys to the water because I have just top dressed the soil. Adding anything extra right now would probably be overkill and result in toxicity from too many available nutrients. I defoliated minimally mostly Do-sì-dos, Watermelon, and Pink Mist. Due to the scrog net, it's about all I can reach 😅 I've moved the plants to increase space for Gorilla Cookies 🍪 and Bubble

At the end of last week, finally flower indicators started to show and these week it went more. Day 32: I sprayed them with Rhizotonic this week. This will be the last week for sprays. I don't like to spray my plants while having buds on it even thought it is organic. Always make sure you spray from below the leafs. They will uptake it better and also spray some above. With the lights off. Did some defoliation again and removed some lower internodes which will be crappy buds anyways. Made a video of my feeding bucket as well, in case some of you wonder how I feed all those plants manually. It is a pump with an gardenhose attached. Thats it for this week, Until next week!

#Pre-Sexed 4/9/21 #PabloEscobar *Fem* breed by Team #DivineSeeds #DivineSeedsSquad #DivineSeedsBreedingCompany and #SuperCropping continued! I'm Very Excited and Extremely Gracious!!! Heck Yeah Growmies and Growmets!!! Check Out this Confirmed Female with her Wild Pistol Hairs popping and I'm still Training and Widening them Out with #SuperCropping Everything looks Expanded and Growing Great! After #SuperCropping the plant will Grow Bushier, Produce More Buds, and possibly even Produce More THC! This is how the plant naturally responses to danger and protects itself! Growers take advantage of this technique to get Bigger Yields and More Potent Buds than would be produced otherwise! #PabloEscobar *Fem* breed by #DivineSeeds #DivineSeedsSquad #DivineSeedsBreedingCompany Topped, Trained, Super Cropped and Looks Spectacularly Gorgeous!!! Origin:Canada/Columbia Type:Indica/Sativa Flowering:71 Days THC:>25% Harvest:700 g/m2 Height:180-200 cm She's Awesomely Trained, Topped and Strengthening out while spreading her Wings to fill her 10 gallon Grow Bag from Broski #www.as420.ca in 8 Weeks of Veg! Getting Trained out into her 8th Week of Veg and Looking Mighty Fine!!! Thier getting Humongous and Hearty in thier 10 gallon Grow Bag from Broski #www.as420.ca These Cannabis plants are Camping out in the Closet for a week or so! Lol This is my 2nd run using the Osree.Light QB1000w and Everything is Mesmerizing!!! My #Opium and #PabloEscobar *Fems* from #DivineSeeds Regs: SalamiLegF3's×2 and FireAlienRomulan look$ Outstandingly Awesome and Growing Up Phenomenally Fine into thier 8th week of Veg in our 2- 10 gallon The Grow Bags from Broski #www.as420.ca and also 2- 5 gallons as Well! Our others are Super and Breed by #thehumancannabiniod #AlienBloodGenetix #TNBNaturals #Foop Yo!!! Thanks Again for All the Love and Support my fellow Growmies and Growmets!!! These Magnificent and Magical Ladies are Growing in our 48×24×60 ViparSpectra Official Club 🌿 ®️ Grow Tent and under our #Osree QB1000w and #GrowStarStore Kokokala QB1000w and our Lavender×3, Sunflowers×5 and The 5 Brand New and Fresh Starts are Wonderful with a Huge Hint of Fantastical Fire is my #SalamiLegF3×2 by Broski #thehumancannabiniod #DankFlowGenetics #EastCoastSeedBank #FireAlienRomulan by Broski #AlienBloodGenetix my #PabloEscobar and #Opium by Team #DivineSeeds #DivineSeedsBreedingCompany We Grow with #Growatt 600w with #FoopOrangicBioSciences and #TNBNaturals The Enhancer Co2 Despersal canister and ph'd them w/ Declorinated watering w/ TNB ph Up and Down! Totally Top Quality Topz all Around! Thanks Again #GallowGlas420 #HarleyGrower #thehumancannabiniod #AlienBloodGenetix #TNBNATURALS #FoopOrangicBioSciences #www.as420.ca #divineseeds #divineseedssquad #divineseedsbreedingcompany #BioFlux Family's and Teams!!! Your Genetics are Merry Magnificent, Mega Marvelous and Mighty Medical! Love um!!! I really Can't stress enough how Thankful and Grateful I am of All of you and what you've Shared with Us! Means the World!!! It's definitely a Pleasure being able to Grow with these Phenomenal Grow Lights! Please Enjoy! BudBrothers4-Life! Cheers Famz!!! Much Props and Much Topz!💯🔥 #Osree #GrowStarStore #Growatt #TNBNaturals #TNBTeam #FoopOrangics #GrowYourOwn #Bliss https://instagram.com/divine.seeds?igshid=1r90iwe9xiwz8 https://instagram.com/thehumancannabinoid?igshid=17k159pumklkq https://www.instagram.com/alienblood_genetix_official/ https://instagram.com/as420.ca?igshid=1f116alw054wp The Grow Bags: https://www.as420

This weekend she got pollinated by a Peanut Butter N' Chocolate Male.

Greetings my dear Jungletamers, So a major surprise came when @MarsHydroLED contacted us and asked if would like to try out their new SP 3000 light. Being a fan of Mars Hydro for years, we of course accepted their offer. We are totally in love with this light. I was when I saw it in another grower's setup and was in awe of its output and results. So with much pride and thankfulness for the presents the Universe bestowed on us, in the form of MarsHydroLEDS offer and the bountiful harvest of the last grow, (which I am thoroughly enjoying btw, such a great weed to have grown ourselves) we start out on a new adventure that we can't wait to share with you. With many lessons learned from the previous grow, a mighty producing strain in the form of Expert Seeds Gorilla Glue #4, a.k.a Expert Gorilla's and a tweaked super soil mixture, we are setting out to hopefully get over a gram per watt, preferably 1.5. The Setup A 4.5 (140 cm) x 2(70) x 6.2 (200) grow tent, giving me a .98 m2 workspace. This space is customized to my needs. A standing fan will provide airflow through the whole grow, a top fan will help guide cooler air past my lights onto the grow. 3 56 ltr pots will be the home for the plants when they are 2 weeks old, up to then in smaller jars. The Light The leading role and star of the show will be played by the Mars Hydro SP-3000, so kindly provided by MarsHydroLED, which we will test and review here and I might say, endorse. I'm very careful with who I endorse and support these days, but a company with that many wins in design, I'm talking ever since their first range came out in 2009 these guys have been raising the bar for the whole industry, I did not hesitate to support this leading brand. If you want to compete with these guys, you better bring some quality AND affordable pricing. Why do I endorse the SP-3000 without ANY hesitation? It is seriously THE BEST light on the market in this price range and size group. It has an enormously effective output in U/Mol and with 30% less energy waste comparing to older LED lights. Prove me wrong! And with a company holding a considerable market share selling thousands of units every month, competing on price and quality, one would think that customer service would suffer. Of course, also Mars Hydro is not perfect, but check the sheer amount of people that not only praise the light but also the service received, should the light somehow not perform up to par. It is this dedication to their customer base that made this company have a fanbase... Yes, a fanbase with a website and a wiki. So if you are looking to buy new lights, check out the END OF SUMMER OFFER at the Mars-Hydro Global Store on Aliexpress: https://marshydroled.aliexpress.com/ 👈 Check their offers but also their score, they ship from a warehouse near you so you don't have the extra import fees!! Cut out the middleman and have a deal on these lights!! At the moment I write this in August 2021, the lights are 408,20 euro when sent from Germany to the rest of Europe, that's 40 euro cheaper than the other Mars outlets, BUT EVEN 60 euros cheaper than ordering at a grow store!! The Strain: Experts Seeds - Expert Gorilla feminized regular. Don’t let the name fool you because Expert Gorilla is suitable for growers of any skill level. However, you do need to be an experienced smoker because Expert Gorilla is one of the most potent strains on the market. Lineage: Chem Sis x Chocolate Diesel x Sour Dubb Popularity: Extremely Popular Flavor/Aroma Profile: Chocolate, Earthy, Fuel Yield: 400 g/m2 Stress Tolerance: High resistance to disease Potency: 24% THC Flowering time: 58 - 63 days The Soil: Those who saw my Monstercropped Gelato #33 grow (you should see it if you didn't, I'm so proud of that grow), know about my super soil and organic nutrients/ permaculture tea combo that starred in my previous diary. Because of the great results, we are going to use the same recipe, adjusted some more with some new ingredients that will complete the mix and give an even more sustained super soil buffer. 20% Atami Bi-grow (very similar to ocean forest) 20% Atami worm castings 20% Atami Coco Coir 10% Hydrocorn 10% Peat powder 1 cup Fossil seaweed chalk 1 cup bonemeal 1 cup bloodmeal 1 cup Microlife 3-4 teaspoons of epsom salt 3 cups of activated biochar (activated with our own permaculture tea) I just made layers, starting with hydro corn on the bottom to aid airflow/run-off. On this I started layering the coco coir, Bi-grow, peat, castings, and amendments in a way that the more mature the plants get, the more phosphorous and less nitrogen they will find. Every time I made three layers, I would mix them by hand. This way we simulate natural soil, which consists of humic layers, composting plant waste, fungal and microbial life, and nutrients from fossilized sources. The Nutrients I will start with just adding 6.4 PH water, although this soil should buffer ph itself and regulate, after 4 weeks, I'll slowly be adding: - Biobizz Grow - Plagron Alga Grow - Biobizz CalMag - Biobizz Flower - Plagron Alga Flower - Biobizz Topmax - Melasses The Tea Some of you might remember the permaculture tea from my previous grow, I have a short video in my harvest page showing how we make it), it will star again in this grow. - (Rain)water - Comfrey (whole plants) - Dandelion leaves - Roots and leaves from the earlier grow - Minor periwinkle (Finca minor) is a plant we have in our garden, it contains an alkaloid that is associated with increased brain function but also is a light toxin for wee beasties and other unwanted guests like gnats (who hate it). - When flowering I add some wood ash to this mix Thank you for checking in on one of my grows again! Thanks for all the love on my previous grow, check it out if you haven't seen it!! Hug Bud

Plantula 12-11-2024 a 21-11-2024 Semana 1 12-11-2024 Se mantiene en rehidratacion constante y vigilancia ya que son los dias mas vulnerables de la plantula. 15-11-2024 Se coloca por la tarde en el recipiente hidroponico ya que la plantula ya tiene la madurez necesaria, y se colocan nutrientes en dosis muy baja. 16-11-2024 Primer Contacto de raizes en agua. 18-11-2024 Se nota la evolucion radicular de la planta y se observa mejoria. Parametros Utilizados Temperatura del ambiente 24 C° Extraccion de aire 4 pulgadas Humedad 75% a 90% Potencia de la lampara 50% Ec Original 0.4 Ec Nutriente 1.0 Ph 6.5

Overall auch ein toller grow mit vielen learnings. Hab Sie zum Schluss mal 3-4 Tage im Dunkeln und ohne zu gießen stehen lassen, da ich weg war. Entspchend trocken sieht Sie bei der Ernte aus.

Third and final topping on day 35! Four additional branches on plant; will be removed shortly for a cloning attempt. Photos/video taken 35 days after breaking soil.

Hi, 2x of my purple punch died 🤷 and another 2x they looks weird i think its bad genetics(mutants) the rest of the girls looks nice 👍

Another good week with average sunny days with solarstrength 750-850w/M2 Strong winds but this plant stands as a tree. I cleaned the big pot. Removed some additional plants, the focus is now to bring the girls home. Two plants are in their last week's, the plant in front is 2/3 weeks behind but flowers are swelling now. This is still the first batch of the season but it takes her time. Buds are swelling and heavy crystallized. The smell is ripe fruit and earthy skunk. A warm and imposante aroma. Almost done😅

She is much prettier than she was a week ago :) I remembered that I have my first grow light, which is more compact and it will give me more space, so I changed my light, now the girl's side branches get light too:) I add a lot of video memes, because I really want to win Iphone16 pro ;) and those who don't take risks don't drink champagne:) good luck to everyone.

CHANGED MY EMAIL ADDRESS ON GROW DIARIES AND IT WONT LET ME DO A CONFIRMATION FOR MY NEW EMAIL, SO NOW I CANT LIKE ANYTHING, COMMENT ON ANYTHING OR CHAT. SORRY MY FRIENDS. I HOPE GROW DIARIES TEAM WILL HELP ME OUT SOON🙏🙏🤞🤞 Day 141 for the 54 plant grow. 42 different strains of photoperiods and 12 different autoflower strains in the: 8X8 GROW TENT WITH THE NEW          FC-E6500, FC4800 AND TSW2000 AND THE NEW 5X5 GROW TENT WITH A TSW2000 👍and they are being fed GREEN BUZZ LIQUIDS all organic/vegan fertilizers🤘. I only pinched the tops on 2 or 3 plants but I defoliated every plant ALOT. it slowed the vertical growth alot but it's exactly what I wanted. I can keep track of the plant sizes, how they grew, how healthy they were, how easy they were to grow and how good the final product is👍 every plant was given the same strength of GREEN BUZZ LIQUIDS and I'm keeping track of which plants were happy with the suggested amounts and which plants seemed to want more or less🤘 Everything is now chopped I chopped 22 photoperiods at 125 days. I chopped 8 more at 130 days of growing. And the last 13 were chopped at 141 days of growing. I'm impressed with how good my mars hydro gear is. Always gets em nice and frosty and everything stinks alot. VERY HAPPY WITH GREEN BUZZ LIQUIDS. I've used lots of brands and this is my NEW favorite brand. And with it being vegan/organic, it makes it even better. Joints burn soo clean👍 The girls are loving their 8x8 MARS MANSION and THE 5X5 INLAW SUITE and everything is doing good and looking nice and getting bigger👍 They are all starting to finish now and the bud sacs are swelling and they are all getting nice and frosty and starting to stink ALOT. MARS HYDRO ALWAYS GETS EM FROSTY👍.I AM NEVER DISAPPOINTED With how awesome these lights are🤘. KEEP KILLING IT MARS🤘👏👏 BREEDERS AND SEEDS: DIVINE SEEDS: MAZAR, OPIUM, WHITE WIDOW, OG KUSH, PABLO ESCOBAR, DIVINE INDICA. AUTO WHITE WIDOW AUTO PABLO ESCOBAR AUTO WHITE RUSSIAN AUTO FRACTAL AUTO MONTREAL AUTO OPIUM AUTO KABUL AUTO MAZAR. WEEDSEED EXPRESS: GREEN CRACK, GHOST TRAIN HAZE, LITHIUM OG, CHEESE. DOCTORS CHOICE: DC KUSH, AUTO NIAGARA, AUTO ROCK MACHINE. EXOTIC SEEDS: HIPPIE BERRY, MALASANA GELATO, EXOTIC ANIMAL. GENE/MEME SEEDS: BLACK HELL. ORIGINAL SENSIBLE SEEDS: PURPLE PUNCH COOKIES, WEDDING CAKE, PURE KUSH, GORILLA COOKIES. SWEET SEEDS: BLACK JACK, GORILLA GIRL, SWEET ZKITTLES. EMERALD TRIANGLE SEEDS: GORILLA GLUE, MASTODON KUSH. SEEDSMAN SEEDS: BLACK SUGAR, PEYOTE FORUM, PEYOTE WIFI, BADAZZ COOKIES OG, PURPLE GHOST CANDY, STRAWBERRY BANANA GRAPE, L.A. PEYOTE KUSH, PEYOTE WIFI CBD, FUEL DOG, CRITICAL PURPLE KUSH. AMSTERDAM MARIJUANA SEEDS: GIRL SCOUT COOKIES EXTREME, GREEN CRACK. QUEBEC CANNABIS SEEDS: BRUCE BANNER, GREEN CRACK, QUEBEC CBD 20:1. I 💚 GROWING MARIJUANA: SKYWALKER OG, BANANA KUSH, BLUEBERRY CBD. FOR EVERYTHING MARS HYDRO VISIT: www.mars-hydro.com www.marshydroled.ca PROMO CODE: rocknroll VISIT THE ALIEXPRESS STORE: @marshydro_aliexpress Instagram: @marshydropenny https://youtube.com/channel/UChU5ZWwNi-DvnO3oWVU3ceA https://greenbuzzliquids.com/ #greenbuzzliquids @GreenBuzzLiquids https://greenbuzzliquids.com/en/shop/ PROMO CODE: rocknroll https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hEqyS1jPpI https://growdiaries.com/diaries/112437-grow-journal-by-rock-n-roll-randy/week/593118 Thanks for taking the time to read and check out my diary🤜🤛 FC-E6500 LED GROW LIGHT: FC-E6500 grow light with 3978pcs OSRAM BridgeLux Diodes & Moso Driver, market-leading PPF 2.7 µmol/J, Max 2.5g yield/watt with 30% higher Average PPE, more cost-effective when compared to same style type lights. Only consumes 650W, perfectly cover 5x5ft (personal), 4x4ft (commercial) grow space. 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I am dry trimming this run so I will let you no on the results but I think its going to be a good harvest

_____ Week 12 | Day 85 - 91 | 5th week of Flower ______ Day 79🌞 oh yes... the smell when I open the tent becomes more and more intense. The buds also look more and more frosty... I think the extra side light pays off, where normally there is little or no light, the buds look just as frosty as the top colas. I hope you can see that well in the pictures... unfortunately I don't have much space to take good pictures of the pages... Only LPH 2 & 3 can be seen well from the front. Amnesia Haze: Amnesia, as expected, is much slower in development than LPH and Biscotti. Number 1 looks a bit wilder and scruffy than 2 and 3. Also from the development 2 and 3 are further and form already diligent trichomes Biscotti: both biscottis look identical, same pheno I think. development is very good and already looks very frosty Lemon Power Haze: LPH 2 & 3 look identical, with number 3 looking frostier and furthest along in terms of development. LPH number 1 looks totally different, the buds look quite small, and it also looks different. I have to think about something for watering. I love my plants but watering 8 pieces in such a small space is no fun hehe. At the moment I water them manually via a small water pump, the whole thing is very fast but I still have to dislocate myself every time to get to the back plants. this is not the yellow from the egg :D For the next grow, the plants have to be higher and I'm thinking of an automatic water supply. Actually, watering my plants calms me down when I do it with the watering can, but under different conditions...Possibly also fewer plants but more training. When the tent is empty again, I start to implement my plans. I'm also thinking about growing 1 or 2 plants in a DWC system. Whether I make something myself or buy something ready-made is not yet clear. If you have any tips, feel free to write to me. Day 81 🌞💧 - Today was feeding time again, as announced again after the 3rd day. I mixed a little more than 25 liters and provided each plant with ~3 liters Day 84 🌞💧 - Three days are over again and the plants are hungry again. 3 liter each Plant, small drain. ____________________________________________________________________________________________ Light - 12/12 h - 560 Watt - 2x 200 Watt Toplight - 4 x 40 Watt Lightbars PPFD - 900 - 1000 µmol Temp. avg. - 22,1° Hum. avg. - 56,3 % RLH

Hermosos colores, exquisito olor afrutado, resinosas, las frutas engordan con normalidad. Terminará de buena manera este cultivo.

Almost donnnneeee!! 🦍🍪😋

OK, im doing an update now becouse my breakup cake is going tranny!!(hermie) I already have noiticed she was not growing as strong .. but u can blame that on anything , especially when growing outdoor.. but this morning i saw that she was g(r)oing 'bananas'!😢 I have put her aside from the rest (in the back of garden) but think gonna have to terminate her asap!..(and i will, right after this post👍) The weed she will give will be filled with seeds and those seeds will be hermies too, so wothless.. and if i dont throw her away quick she can infect the rest. So goodbye breakup cake..😢 who wants to eat a cake when they are breaking up anyway..😒 (just hiding my pain with lame humour 😳) happy growing for all ✊

Very nice this is my 4th run with triple and seems i have now mastered her! With extra supplements and additives i was able to acheive this beauty! She has very nice structure and potencty is up there! I recommend this to anybody!!! She smokes like 30% strain The Teprs are out of this world 😍 The buds looks 10/10