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@Adam22
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Flushed for 3 days so far so good. No yellow tips on the leafs yet but I may just have to pull this plant down today I have just 1 plant in the tent it doesn't seem worth running this just for 1 plant so I will pull down later today I think and upload pics and remember where I went wrong for next time. I have some new seeds just been delivered I think next time I will try to have an additional tent slightly bigger so I can have 2 different strains growing at the same time. Definitely using feminised seeds also as don't have time to waste vegging for 6 weeks a plant to just end up with balls. Next run will be: 4 x cookie dawg 3 x velvet moon 1 x sherbert punch I will be looking for a decent led light for the next tent also I would like to run the same strain in both tents and see what the difference in the results are using my hps light vs led Harvested plant 1 5oz budd 14g popcorn buds and leaf trim
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Started her, second set of leaves.I predict this 1 will take over the AK x BD in 2 to 3 weeks if shes anything like the other sensi/white label strains I've done b4.Started in coco in my small cabinet then transplanted to hydro after first set of leaves.All good 👌🤞🍁
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She's fat, healthy and about ready to be chopped :) She will start flushing at the end of this week
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So this plant is techinally not on week 16 its on 14 but i posted some things in the wrong weeksk and am not fixing it.. anyway She's doing great. Shes drinking way less than my other plant I was worried about her the last week or so because she's a little small but im happy shes gonna chunk up soon. CRAZY crystals and i cant even explain how potent she smells. 2/7 Looking better and better every day!! so stinky got some better pics. gonna try and upload more cause shes gonna fattening up
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Checkout my Instagram @smallbudz to see the Small budget grow setup for indoor use, low watt, low heat, low noise, step by step. 30/11/2019 - Struggling with high humidity, change led strip color from red,green,blue to red and green. 1/12/2019 - Checked and adjusted the light distance. 2/12/2019 - Pot feels light and dry, gave her 1,5l PH 6.3 with a 1/4 of recommended Biobizz nuts, notice almost no run off. 3/12/2019 - Finally her first pistil appeared on the main stem I was starting to get worried.
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Ultimi giorni per una pianta mentre altre due sono a seccare. Qua foto e video delle prime tre piante tolte. A settimana prossima 😊
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2017-09-11. Kl 12.00. Week 3 starts. I have cleaned the whole room for the new week and gave the girls water and nutes. Added videos and pics. Girl is 11 cm high. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2017-09-12. Kl 10.00. New pics and video. -------------------------------------------------------- 2017-09-13. Kl 22.00. Added new video. ---------------------------------------------------- 2017-09-15. KL 10.00. New pics and video. The girl is 14 cm high. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2017-09-16. Kl 10.00. The girl is starting to grow little better now and i hope she is picking up the pace. Added new videos.
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And the flowering begins! Changed the timer today to 12/12. The plant stems don't seem perfect to me but the clones didn't come as good as they should have been. They were the only ones i had though. The temperature is too high but i can't lower it anymore it's too hot were i live. Can't wait for the colder days! :/ Usually i opt for Scrog but this time i'm going with LST instead because since the grow space is small, its easier for me in case i want to flush or move the plants around. Gonna start the bloom boosters next week. Yay!
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I’m thinking the girls need another week or two, getting very close but I do prefer indica effects so I’m waiting on that beautiful amber color yield might not be all there but quality is definitely showing 🔥💪 shoutout to 420 FASTBUDS for great genetics!
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wow ! bud all over tent ! really good smell like fruit loop lime ! but i think all its good for now ! new soup with cal mag ,pk13/14,cannazym,cannaboost and terpinator! she like so healty next time sativa will be in bigger tent !
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|»» LOG DISCLAIMER: Not intended as a grow guide. Grow log entries are usually posted 3 weeks later and are for my learning reference. ««| Introduction - Week 12 Summary - Ensign's log, stardate 17523.6, Ca-Caw! Another smooth grow week! Blended and fed the popcorn tea and the garden is just thriving! Been mainly tucking and evening out TKO all week. Heady OG has also just reached the netting so started to train and tuck. Growth in both tents are just raging with health! Onwards to next week Ensign! [START OF WEEK 12] ========================================================== ---------- [ 4x4 MAIN TENT ] ---------- Heady OG BX1 #1 [Round4 ~Wk5] - WEEK 12 - Full Veg TKO [Round2 ~Wk10] - WEEK 12 - Full Veg ----------- [ 3x3 VEG TENT ] ------------ Garlic Budder OG#1 - WEEK 04 - Full Veg Garlic Budder OG#2 - WEEK 04 - Full Veg Gorilla Goat #1 - WEEK 04 - Full Veg Gorilla Goat #2 - WEEK 04 - Full Veg 07/07/25 → 07/13/25 This Week's Estimated Goals ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DLI: ~19 mol/m²/d PPFD: ~300 μmol/m²/s VPD: ~1.0 kPa This Week's Meter Readings & Averages ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Light On/Off: 16:00 - 10:00 | Wattage: ~325.5W [LV04] Distance From Canopy: ~33”, 30” DLI: ~20.28 mol/m²/d PPFD: ~313 μmol/m²/s VPD: ~0.83 kPa Soil %: [49.0, 38.9, 49.4, 51.4, 41.0, 42.4, 43.0, 43.3] ========================================================== Day 01 - Monday - 07/07/25 - Total Days: 085 ----------------------------------- Daily Averages ~[+01:00] - Temps: 85.9°F [29.9°C] - Humidity: 79.5% - VPD: 0.86 kPa - Soil %: [49, 39, 49, 52, 41, 42, 43, 43] ----------------------------------- - [+01:04]: Late night check on the 4x4 tent. --- Ca-Caw! The garden is green and healthy! --- Heady OG (BX1 #1) is thriving and she’s already recovered from the LST yesterday. Due to the training, she’s under the netting, but lower growth is starting to even out and stretch upwards! Nice! --- TKO is raging and the canopy is filling in beautifully! --- Using my hands and a chopstick, --- Tucked the top growth under the scrog netting. - [+01:33]: Checked the Ecowitt soil moisture sensor data: ------------------ [ 4x4 MAIN TENT ] --------------- ------ 53% - [CH01 FT » G30 - Heady OG BX1 #1] ------ 39% - [CH02 FB » G30 - Heady OG BX1 #1] ------ 54% - [CH03 BT » G20 - TKO] ------ 52% - [CH04 BB » G20 - TKO] ------------------ [ 3x3 VEG TENT ] ---------------- ------ 42% - [CH05 BL » GR7 - Garlic Budder OG#1] ------ 43% - [CH06 BR » GR7 - Garlic Budder OG#2] ------ 43% - [CH07 FL » GR7 - Gorilla Goat #1] ------ 44% - [CH08 FR » GR7 - Gorilla Goat #2] --------- Veg: 38% - 45% | Flower: 45% - 55% --------- General: 30% [Dry] «| 45 - 60% [Moist] |» 70% [Wet] - [+01:35]: Checked the 3x3 veg tent. --- Mothers are vegging along and the canopy is looking healthy! --- Pots are also flood and gnat free! The few flies and gnats found a week or so ago were just a false alarm. Great! --- Back to the sprouted seed tea! - [+01:40]: Checked on the jar. --- The heating pad was at 82.4°F --- Wow roots have sprouted and looking great! --- Rinsed the seeds with RO water. Mixed them around in the water for a bit before draining. --- Placed the jar back onto the heating pad and wrapped it in a towel. --- Decided to use the rinse water and poured the entire cup onto TKO (about 1.25 cups). - [+02:01]: Checked the humidifiers. --- Tanks are still full and no leaks found. Day 02 - Tuesday - 07/08/25 - Total Days: 086 ----------------------------------- Daily Averages ~[+01:00] - Temps: 85.2°F [29.6°C] - Humidity: 79.0% - VPD: 0.87 kPa - Soil %: [51, 39, 50, 52, 41, 43, 43, 43] ----------------------------------- - [16:21]: Evening check on the 4x4 tent. --- The grow light has just finished the 20-minute sunrise. Good morning my girls! --- Heady OG is looking healthy and growth is stretching upwards! The canopy is evening out and grow auxins are being re-directed to new top growth. --- TKO is perky and looking healthy! - [16:25]: Checked the Ecowitt soil moisture sensor data: ------------------ [ 4x4 MAIN TENT ] --------------- ------ 56% - [CH01 FT » G30 - Heady OG BX1 #1] ------ 39% - [CH02 FB » G30 - Heady OG BX1 #1] ------ 47% - [CH03 BT » G20 - TKO] ------ 51% - [CH04 BB » G20 - TKO] ------------------ [ 3x3 VEG TENT ] ---------------- ------ 40% - [CH05 BL » GR7 - Garlic Budder OG#1] ------ 48% - [CH06 BR » GR7 - Garlic Budder OG#2] ------ 43% - [CH07 FL » GR7 - Gorilla Goat #1] ------ 44% - [CH08 FR » GR7 - Gorilla Goat #2] --------- Veg: 38% - 45% | Flower: 45% - 55% --------- General: 30% [Dry] «| 45 - 60% [Moist] |» 70% [Wet] - [16:35]: Checked the 3x3 veg tent. --- Looking healthy in the mother tent! --- All growth is perky and the canopy is looking great! --- Pots are also gnat and flood free. Nice! --- Ca-Caw! Back to the sprouted seed tea! - [16:41]: Checked on the jar. --- The heating pad was at 82.5°F --- Ca-Caw! These are my roots! --- Popcorn seeds are sprouted and ready to be made into a tea! --- Let’s go! --- Took the jar of sprouted popcorn seeds and added 1/4 cup of RO water. - [17:06]: Poured the entire jar into a blender. --- Blended the seeds into a watery seed milk. --- Poured the seed milk into a jar. - [17:12]: Filled a 5-gallon bucket with 1gal (16 cups) of RO water. ------ Added the seed milk. ------ Added 1/8tsp of Quillaja Saponaria Extract [60] ------ Added 1/16tsp of: --------- Big 6 Micronutrients [+ Humic Acid] --------- Mycrobe Complete --------- Recharge --------- Great White ------ Added 1tsp of Horticultural Coconut - [17:33]: Mixed the solution well before skimming the top. Poured 6 cups of the solution straight into a pump sprayer. --- Misted the straw mulch of the 20-gallon pot. --- Sprayed around the drip ring and tried to keep the solution away from the inner area dry. - [17:58]: Repeated this process for the 30-gallon pot. --- Hmm. --- While watering, the pump sprayer kept clogging. A bit annoying. --- Anyways, - [18:04]: Before feeding the veg tent, added 3 cups of RO water to the solution. --- The veg tent doesn’t need nutes, but this is mainly for the microbes and the worms. - [18:07]: Filled the pump sprayer with 1 cup of the solution. --- Misted Garlic Budder OG#1's straw mulch (back left). --- Repeated this process for the rest of the phenos in the tent. --- Poured the rest of the solution into a pitcher and watered the house plants. --- Wow, yea, the gnats and flies are definitely not from my garden. --- While watering the houseplants, noticed that they are swarming with gnats.. --- The pots in the tent still seem okay for now, but will probably need to inoculate with more nematodes soon. --- Also researching predator mites and had found that Hypoaspis Miles (Stratiolaelaps Scimitus) might be a solution for fungus gnats. - [19:11]: Checked the humidifiers. --- Tanks are still full and no leaks found. Day 03 - Wednesday - 07/09/25 - Total Days: 087 ----------------------------------- Daily Averages ~[+01:00] - Temps: 86.3°F [30.2°C] - Humidity: 80.2% - VPD: 0.85 kPa - Soil %: [48, 39, 49, 52, 41, 42, 43, 45] ----------------------------------- - [21:56]: Night check on the 4x4 tent. --- Wow the garden is looking incredible! --- Ah yea! Heady OG has fully recovered from the low stress training and has almost reached the trellis! --- TKO is raging and looking beautiful! Time to start tucking! --- Using my hands and a chopstick, trained and tucked all top growth under the trellis netting. --- The canopy is filling in nicely and TKO has almost stretched over another row to right. She needs to fill in about 2.5 rows to fully fill in the back two quadrants. - [22:22]: Checked the Ecowitt soil moisture sensor data: ------------------ [ 4x4 MAIN TENT ] --------------- ------ 45% - [CH01 FT » G30 - Heady OG BX1 #1] ------ 39% - [CH02 FB » G30 - Heady OG BX1 #1] ------ 50% - [CH03 BT » G20 - TKO] ------ 52% - [CH04 BB » G20 - TKO] ------------------ [ 3x3 VEG TENT ] ---------------- ------ 43% - [CH05 BL » GR7 - Garlic Budder OG#1] ------ 40% - [CH06 BR » GR7 - Garlic Budder OG#2] ------ 41% - [CH07 FL » GR7 - Gorilla Goat #1] ------ 42% - [CH08 FR » GR7 - Gorilla Goat #2] --------- Veg: 38% - 45% | Flower: 45% - 55% --------- General: 30% [Dry] «| 45 - 60% [Moist] |» 70% [Wet] - [22:27]: Checked the 3x3 veg tent. --- Looking green and healthy in the mother tent! --- Super-cropped the canopy a bit and lowered it down by a few inches. --- Pots also look great and gnat free! - [22:36]: Checked the humidifiers. --- Tanks are still full and no leaks found. Day 04 - Thursday - 07/10/25 - Total Days: 088 ----------------------------------- Daily Averages ~[+01:00] - Temps: 85.7°F [29.8°C] - Humidity: 79.6% - VPD: 0.86 kPa - Soil %: [48, 39, 50, 52, 41, 42, 43, 42] ----------------------------------- - [16:08]: Evening check on the 4x4 tent. --- Looking great my girls! --- Heady OG has almost reached the netting! The lower growth is evening out nicely and catching up with the top growth. --- TKO is also looking beautiful and top growth is stretching upwards! --- Pots also look great and lower growth is healthy and green! - [16:24]: Took the weekly general PPFD readings. ------ Heady OG (BX1 #1) was around 313 μmol/m²/s which gives a DLI of 20.28 mol/m²/d under an 18/6 light cycle (at ~325W). ------ TKO was around 362 μmol/m²/s which gives a DLI of 23.46 mol/m²/d under a 18/6 light cycle. - [17:36]: Took the weekly height and light distance measurements. ------ Heady OG (BX1 #1) was about 19.75" tall. ------ TKO was about 22.25" tall. ------ Heady OG (BX1 #1) was about 33" away from the grow light. ------ TKO was about 30" away from the grow light. - [18:16]: Checked the Ecowitt soil moisture sensor data: ------------------ [ 4x4 MAIN TENT ] --------------- ------ 45% - [CH01 FT » G30 - Heady OG BX1 #1] ------ 39% - [CH02 FB » G30 - Heady OG BX1 #1] ------ 45% - [CH03 BT » G20 - TKO] ------ 51% - [CH04 BB » G20 - TKO] ------------------ [ 3x3 VEG TENT ] ---------------- ------ 40% - [CH05 BL » GR7 - Garlic Budder OG#1] ------ 45% - [CH06 BR » GR7 - Garlic Budder OG#2] ------ 40% - [CH07 FL » GR7 - Gorilla Goat #1] ------ 47% - [CH08 FR » GR7 - Gorilla Goat #2] --------- Veg: 38% - 45% | Flower: 45% - 55% --------- General: 30% [Dry] «| 45 - 60% [Moist] |» 70% [Wet] - [18:44]: Checked the 3x3 veg tent. --- Ooo yea! Mothers are looking healthy and growth is thriving! --- Wow the canopy looks nice and even! --- Pots are also great and gnat free! - [19:00]: Quickly checked on the auto-watering system. --- System is still charged and no leaks or kinks found in the tubing. --- All WittFlow units are also connected and charged (CH1 is still low but online). - [19:16]: Checked the humidifiers. --- Tanks are still full and no leaks found. Day 05 - Friday - 07/11/25 - Total Days: 089 ----------------------------------- Daily Averages ~[+01:00] - Temps: 86.4°F [30.2°C] - Humidity: 80.9% - VPD: 0.82 kPa - Soil %: [49, 39, 49, 51, 41, 42, 43, 43] ----------------------------------- - [22:11]: Night check on the 4x4 tent. --- Ca-Caw! Ooo yea! The garden is thriving and vibing! --- Heady OG is has reached the scrog netting! Again! --- Going to let her stretch up through the netting before beginning the tucking. --- Wow! TKO is stretching upwards! --- Time to start tucking! - [22:15]: Using my fingers and chopstick, --- Tucked the top growth under the scrog netting. --- Nice! She has almost filled in the back right quadrant. Two more rows left! - [22:40]: Checked the Ecowitt soil moisture sensor data: ------------------ [ 4x4 MAIN TENT ] --------------- ------ 49% - [CH01 FT » G30 - Heady OG BX1 #1] ------ 39% - [CH02 FB » G30 - Heady OG BX1 #1] ------ 47% - [CH03 BT » G20 - TKO] ------ 51% - [CH04 BB » G20 - TKO] ------------------ [ 3x3 VEG TENT ] ---------------- ------ 43% - [CH05 BL » GR7 - Garlic Budder OG#1] ------ 40% - [CH06 BR » GR7 - Garlic Budder OG#2] ------ 41% - [CH07 FL » GR7 - Gorilla Goat #1] ------ 47% - [CH08 FR » GR7 - Gorilla Goat #2] --------- Veg: 38% - 45% | Flower: 45% - 55% --------- General: 30% [Dry] «| 45 - 60% [Moist] |» 70% [Wet] - [22:42]: Checked the 3x3 veg tent. --- Mothers are raging with healthy top growth! The canopy is healthy and perky! --- Pots are also looking clean and gnat free! - [22:46]: Checked the humidifiers. --- Tanks are still full and no leaks found. Day 06 - Saturday - 07/12/25 - Total Days: 090 ----------------------------------- Daily Averages ~[+01:00] - Temps: 85.7°F [29.8°C] - Humidity: 81.4% - VPD: 0.78 kPa - Soil %: [49, 39, 50, 51, 41, 43, 43, 43] ----------------------------------- - [07:23]: Quick morning check on the 4x4 tent. --- Ca-Caw! --- Wow Heady OG has several tops stretching just beyond the scrog netting and growth is looking healthy and green! --- TKO has already has bounced back from the tucking and most tops are pointing straight up! Incredible! --- Alright ladies! Sleep well (lights off at 10am) and grow strong! - [20:19]: Night check on the 4x4 tent. --- Ahh yea! The garden is looking healthy and the canopy is filling nicely! --- Heady OG is already a good inch or two above the scrog netting. Wow! --- TKO is stretching upwards again! Time to tuck! --- Using my fingers and chopstick, - [20:44]: Tucked both Heady OG and TKO’s top growth under the netting. --- Looking great my ladies! The canopy is nearly full! - [21:02]: Checked the Ecowitt soil moisture sensor data: ------------------ [ 4x4 MAIN TENT ] --------------- ------ 45% - [CH01 FT » G30 - Heady OG BX1 #1] ------ 38% - [CH02 FB » G30 - Heady OG BX1 #1] ------ 49% - [CH03 BT » G20 - TKO] ------ 51% - [CH04 BB » G20 - TKO] ------------------ [ 3x3 VEG TENT ] ---------------- ------ 43% - [CH05 BL » GR7 - Garlic Budder OG#1] ------ 46% - [CH06 BR » GR7 - Garlic Budder OG#2] ------ 45% - [CH07 FL » GR7 - Gorilla Goat #1] ------ 43% - [CH08 FR » GR7 - Gorilla Goat #2] --------- Veg: 38% - 45% | Flower: 45% - 55% --------- General: 30% [Dry] «| 45 - 60% [Moist] |» 70% [Wet] - [21:11]: Checked the 3x3 veg tent. --- All mothers are vegging along beautifully! --- Wow the canopy has reached the light! - [21:26]: Pinched and super-cropped the top growth. --- Lowered the canopy about 6-7inches. - [21:34]: Checked the humidifiers. --- Tanks are still full and no leaks found. Day 07 - Sunday - 07/13/25 - Total Days: 091 ----------------------------------- Daily Averages ~[+01:00] - Temps: 85.3°F [29.6°C] - Humidity: 81.5% - VPD: 0.77 kPa - Soil %: [49, 38, 49, 50, 41, 43, 43, 44] ----------------------------------- - [08:01]: Quick morning check on the 4x4 tent. --- Looking great my ganja queens! --- Heady OG is spreading out quite nice! --- Wow TKO has pretty much fully recovered from tucking and is already perking upwards! Going to need to tuck again tonight. - [16:58]: Night check on the 4x4 tent. --- Ca-Caw! Wow! Both ladies are spreading out beautifully! --- Heady OG is filling in the front right quadrant nicely and growth is looking healthy! --- Time to tuck! - [19:22]: Trained and tucked the top growth of both plants. --- Mainly trained TKO, but Heady OG was also spread out and tucked under the trellis netting. - [19:26]: Checked the Ecowitt soil moisture sensor data: ------------------ [ 4x4 MAIN TENT ] --------------- ------ 47% - [CH01 FT » G30 - Heady OG BX1 #1] ------ 38% - [CH02 FB » G30 - Heady OG BX1 #1] ------ 49% - [CH03 BT » G20 - TKO] ------ 50% - [CH04 BB » G20 - TKO] ------------------ [ 3x3 VEG TENT ] ---------------- ------ 43% - [CH05 BL » GR7 - Garlic Budder OG#1] ------ 43% - [CH06 BR » GR7 - Garlic Budder OG#2] ------ 47% - [CH07 FL » GR7 - Gorilla Goat #1] ------ 40% - [CH08 FR » GR7 - Gorilla Goat #2] --------- Veg: 38% - 45% | Flower: 45% - 55% --------- General: 30% [Dry] «| 45 - 60% [Moist] |» 70% [Wet] - [20:05]: Checked the 3x3 veg tent. --- Ahh yea! Looking beautiful in the mother tent! --- Growth is vegging out and the canopy is already getting closer to the grow light. --- Going to need to start super-cropping again. --- Also may also need to start topping to thin out the canopy. These ladies are overgrowing the tent space! Nice! - [20:21]: Checked the humidifiers. --- Tanks are still full and no leaks found. --- Alright! Another grow week done! --- Onwards to next week Ensign! [END OF WEEK 12]
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Big Week. Massive Defoliation - Lolly Popping - Soil Moisture Sensors - Transplanting from 3gln to 5gln Fabric Pots - Got 99% of Irrigation Parts -Transfer To Flower !!! Still trying to get a new probe for my ph meter. I ordered one from Hanna directly hopefully this will fix the situation as i am semi blind using old ph meter. Removed probably 50 stalks trying to decrese the bulk and eliminate popcorns. Half to address the white mold on the roots. I will give a Lost Coast Plant Therapy root drench. i am adjust main room humidity down and turning down humidifier. Might be looking at getting a dehumidifier. A/C would be nice to but... Let the Kolas Grow
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They are responding amazing to everything, they dont even look the same is just crazy retarded how well they are doing now , ate least to my eyes they do lol love the green, love how full is getting , love it all, if she keeps like this next week mb less i will put them in flower mode other way i wont have space for them after lol For now i have my PPFD around 560 but i will bring this up wen in flower, i did IPM on them just in case with nematodes and a bunch of beneficial bugs and mites lol As always thank you guys for your love , your time, your support and it all, i fell blessed and i am truly thankful <3 <3 <3 

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the 7th week. i decided to do the first topping. she took it well. and the new branches are thriving. i have also started LST training. she has got used to the environment and is finally showing the power i expected from her. the first weeks were just too changeable and sometimes too cold.
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it's amazing, this growth looks much better than my first attempt, my decision was to put a smaller pot and change the light - the girl really liked it, FastBuds goriilla cookies with a small space manage perfectly:).
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Terminamos nuestra quinta semana pasando a floración nuestras fotodependientes 🍀💫 empieza la magia
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She got that snow moon showers a few hours ago… luckily she is lollipop so they shouldn’t be any problems with humidity. Her Sweet smell lingers around.