Did some more LST. Added a CO2 bag (first time using CO2) it will be interesting to see if this adds to yields. Also, decided that the Phlizon light was not performing as seen by the the fact Ultimate 3 is a dwarf compared to the other two so added a Mars Hydro TS 600.

Flowering day 68 since time change to 12 / 12 h and still very far away from the harvest 😂. Hey guys :-) . As usual, it still takes a long time until the harvest. She has stopped growing and I am happy that I managed to keep a Dr Grinspoon small with LST and topping ☺️. She is developing super nicely and smells exactly like a Dr grinspoon should smell 😍. This week was poured 3 times with 1 l each (nutrients see table above) Otherwise the lady was checked every day and everything was cleaned. Have fun and stay healthy 💚🙏🏻 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼 You can buy this Nutrients at : https://greenbuzzliquids.com/en/shop/ With the discount code: Made_in_Germany you get a discount of 15% on all products from an order value of 100 euros. 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼 You can buy this strain at : https://www.barneysfarm.com/dr-grinspoon-5 Water 💧 💧💧 Osmosis water mixed with normal water (24 hours stale that the chlorine evaporates) to 0.2 EC. Add Cal / Mag to 0.4 Ec Ph with Organic Ph - to 5.8 - 6.5 MadeInGermany

Top dress has been great!

I am busy all weekend, so I wanted to make sure I got something out of the grow (just in case). I might use a good portion of this harvest for rosin and for when friends ask :) That is if the second plant lasts until next week. I cant ask my wife to keep an eye on water, roots, or bud.

Week 7 (27/06/2024 - 03/07/2024) 27/06/2024 - Height 54cm. 28/06/2024 - Height 57cm. 29/06/2024 - Height 59cm. 2000ml of water (6,2pH, BioBizz Grow 1ml/l, Bloom 1,5ml/l, TopMax 1ml/l, 970 µS/cm). 30/06/2024 - Height 60cm. 01/07/2024 - Height 62cm. 2000ml of water (6,3pH, BioBizz Grow 1ml/l, Bloom 1,5ml/l, TopMax 1ml/l, 940 µS/cm). 02/07/2024 - Last day of visible growth. 03/07/2024 - Temperature and Humidity Trend - Plants are outside only during the day (07:00 - 21:00 / 7am to 9pm), therefore night data can be ignored. Room temperature at night is approx 22-24C, humidity 50-60%.

The nematodes worked great against the fungus gnats and i almost completely got rid of them. Starting to feed her this week. Also started with low stress training this week.

Día 73 desde su nacimiento y ya se ha dejado de abonar hace un par de días para obtener resultados más limpios de residuos. El progreso está a la vista, flores muy densas que estaban doblando todas las ramas de esta planta por lo que tuve que agarrarla para ayudarlas a soportar el peso. El nivel de tricomas es impresionante y desprende una fragancia dulce bastante agradables por toda la casa. BUENOS HUMOS! 👽

420Fastbuds FBT2312/Week8 What up what up grow fam. Weekly update on these two frosty girls. They both are maturing nicely at the flower sites. Starting to smell super pungent. Still keeping up the same routine for the next week or two before I'll start checking trichs. All in all Happy Growing

Week went again very uneventful, she is not very hungry anymore and had to constantly refill the reservoir with water to keep the ec in check. Trichomes are all cloudy and start to turn amber. She has developed that amazing purple hue and is sticky to the max, so definitely showing her glue heritable ;) I will continue to feed her until Wednesday this week and then start the flushing and darkness. Harvest will be next week end.

I'm going away for 30 days about a week into this grow. I'm going to automate weeks 1 through 5 by using the Blumat watering system along with the automated fan from AC Infinity. Hopefully, these will keep things going while I'm gone. I've never used the Blumat products before and I'm excited to see their potential. If I succeed, I'll return to happy 5-week old plants. If not, I'll have to start a new grow...which is what I was going to do anyway. I have nothing to lose but a couple of seeds. Let's get this automated grow started. Day 1 - I placed the seeds directly in a fist-sized clump of Coast of Maine Seed Starter soil that was then placed in a 3-gallon pot full of Coast of Maine Stonington Blend. This will ensure the seedling doesn't get exposed to the nutrient-rich soil too soon. I set the light 2 feet above the top of the pots so they have room to grow into the 18" to 12" range. I also set the light strength to 60% during germination. The temperature in the tent remained 75 degrees and humidity was 70%. I also covered the soil over the germinating seeds with mason jars to act as humidity domes. Day 4 - Both pots sprouted this morning. I immediately removed the mason jar humidity domes. I also increased the light to 70% strength and installed the Blumat watering system to help me keep things growing while I'm gone.

OK, so I’ll begin dialing back in my grow focusing after I gave her a top dress feeding I watered her in well with 2 gallons of water unpHd maybe two or three days later I noticed that her topsoil was starting to dry so I gave her another gallon of water just because although I believe in allowing the plant to have the dry back. Between watering I also keep hearing you know that with organic soil, you have to keep it moist in order for you know the nutrient to break down and I definitely want those top nutrients I gave her to become readily available . Also, in terms of dialing it back in the plant has been at a very abbreviated or dimmed level like since recovering from when I basically almost killed it and with that being said with the light being out at a dim level of about 40 to 50%, it was also brought up to a very High height in order to decrease stress so that they can regrow so I lower the light from 26 inches 28“ to 14 inches above the canopy. I put back in my floor fan for the lower canopy although I found out that it no longer circulate so I’m having to replace it. Its replacement is on the way in the mail. I added it back in the humidifier for the plants mainly because I was doing the cuttings in the clones since I needed to trim the lower canopy and begin training the plant down more for the trellis. This is my first run using a trellis. This is my first time trying to make one plant so massive, but I’m just a small time grower trying to get the most bang for my book since I’m trying to grow plants to supply myself anyways rather than maintaining so many different plants, I just thought I’d give it a go at making one plant massive I’ve gotten fairly decent and establishing good structure implants as far as like the number of branches or branches so I really wanna like push the threshold of my quantity that I can that I can deliver, but this are all the while. I’m still really working hard to get the quality that I know I like to smoke. I’m happy you know I’m learning but wow I’m still very far from the goal so the light is still at 50% but it lowered to 14 inches. There’s an additional lower canopy fan that’s not currently circulating but one on the way that will circulate the air down there and the humidifier in the tent now oh I also reprogram my humid controller because ever since I’ve called the other three plants that were occupying this tent when I began this this project I tried to switch it over for new settings for this plan considering you know it was set for the flower setting for my last three ladies but when I did that I messed it up and I was just too lazy to go in there and fix it so we have been running with BPD issues this entire time you know and that’s that’s part of the stunning growth as well you know the darn near 30 inch light height, being hungry and meet me during the watering but just in discriminated amounts because I’m not TDS and or PPM any of this stuff I’m really just eyeballing it not paging this stuff circulation and low light intensity. I mean, I can see why it’s taking her a little while to start moving like got like I remember her moving but since I’m back posting I’m I’m I’m working a dollar and I was even considering buying a new light at first but then I realized one I do have a really good light too. I really haven’t got that many runs off of this light less than 10 three is because I doubt her back so much in order to like decrease the stress and I can. I can push this plant with this light. I just need to dial my equipment back in and for you know, I had him back in the extra circulation and the humidifier to get the environment dialed in. I mean, you thought you get that BPD setting right and she used to transpired but now she’s hungry and if I keep that so more so that those nuts can break down she’s gonna get to looking for those nutrients so if not now like I think it’s supposed to take a week no more than a week gonna have to before those nutrients become you know bi available tour so I’m doing I’m doing my part now to give her the attention that she needs into dollar back in so that we can we can get the show on the road. This is entirely too long, but that’s just because I haven’t. I’ve been. I’ve been hands off. I mean, I found that I like the hands off approach to growing much more than the hands-on because then I’m too impatient and I’m oh man then it becomes a chore and has to go take care of her. You know as opposed to a pleasure or like a getaway, I enjoy when I take care of my plan. I like it to be at my activity you know not something that I’m just ready to get over with. I like to spend time with my plans I like to not mind going in there and then defoliating every couple of days. Listen, I need a strain that has an excellent of matter fact a low leaf to blood ratio I need far more bud and weight less leaves. I strain that I pick out a pure interest, but at this point, I’m almost ready to pick strains based off of leaf to blood ratio. I would enjoy just a good simple girl like I just have a couple of leaf Plug every couple of weeks. Let’s see when I’m mean to her with food top dressed because she’s in a 6 gallon hot, I gave her 1 tablespoon of the guy green broke and 3 tablespoons of organic worm castings per 6 gallons so that was a total of 6 tablespoons of the guy green grow nutrient maybe even seven for good measure and then 18 tablespoons cause I don’t know how many you know a4 cups 1/3 cup for cups that is but I actually wanna find out so I can stop doing these tablespoon measurements but 18 tablespoons of worm castings and I just I did my best to work. I didn’t really well to the top so and then I watered that in really slowly to try to avoid runoff the best I could. I did end up getting about a quarter inch runoff when I usually get about an inch and a half a runoff so I did good. I just even know that stuff eventually sucks back up in the pot. I didn’t want all that stuff to like rush to the bottom and then only get sucked back up at the bottom cause I don’t know what the root looks like at the bottom. I kinda have to assume that it is nice and strong, and maybe even root bound need to be upside to a bigger pot before I flipper the flower but if it’s not like I don’t want the concentration of nutrients and salts to be at the very bottom, especially when it comes time later for flushing, like I want that stuff to be you know closer to the to the top in the middle of the other of the soul structure, where I know the majority of the roots are and eventually work as way down to the evening rate, but not have a concentration at the bottom and I’m adding stuff in at the top. I really wanna flush this plant. Well, my lash flush it was semi decent. This flush it could be between my flesh, my dry and my cure which is crippling anybody I mean the girl I got far better man you should’ve seen my first couple girls terrible but now I’m gonna achieve quality in good structure. I just need to get I mean I can see quality you know structure of plants and blood structure but I gotta get the quality smoke. The sticks the smells taste the dense buds at the right moisture level if you’re enjoying it so far, give us a like. FINAL UPDATE OF THIS WEEK: 16DAYS SINCE DRY AMENDING SOIL . . PLANT STILL SHOWS NUTRIENT DEFICIENCY. I had hoped to be back on Water Onlu by now bc I’m afraid I’m going t burn her with these nutrient waters this long since my dry ammenduand what’s worse is that if I follow my 3 week amendment rule I’ll be adding 6 more tbl spoons of nutrient alongside worm castings ALL WHILE THE LAST NUTRIENTS I FED STILL HAVENT BECOME AVAILABLE YET. I DONT LIKE THIS

Segunda semana, las plantas crecen de forma correcta aunque de manera dispar, hay algunas que ya tienen 3 nudos (pequeños por cierto) pero hay otras que aun tiene su primer par de hojas. Esta semana comencé a darles los nutrientes según la tabla de Bio Bizz.

Plants are getting too big for enough light coverage, so had to buy a second grow light. As noted before, the plant was getting out of hand and growing at many different heights making it difficult to set the optimum light distance. So, I went a little crazy and did some serious pruning (yes, during flowing, I know). Also trimmed off a number of fan leaves that were either beginning to yellow or were otherwise blocking valuable light from the many of the smaller buds. Fortunately my plants are very resilient and are finally at mostly equal heights now. Hindsight 20/20: I now have a better idea of how to route my plants using the ScrOG method. I found a well written blog that answered all the questions I had that other article didn't. Bottom line: Instead of allowing the main branches to grow through the netting and re-route the offshoots, I've found it's better to keep the main branches under the netting and allow the off-shoots to grow through instead. Think of it as the plant growing sideways.

Ok these girls are finishing up and I have been using clean water for a little over a week now I'm using flawless finish for the last 7 days.i have one girl that is definetly done but I'm letting her flush a little longer to make sure I have a clean smoke.i did use water and fish shit for a couple waterings but I don't think that will affect anything with taste.if anything I hope it makes it better.my last harvest is still kinda harsh and more of a black ash still.i started using my burp jars today so hopefully that will help.i just over did it with nutrients.even though they are organic they still need a good flush.im going back to advanced nutrients to see if that helps

Fed and defoliated to start week 7. The plant looks good for being in a small pot, the buds are on point and look as expected at this stage.

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This week went pretty well, other than she stretched like crazy and I am now getting worried about running out of vertical space. I also had a few of my bottom leaves get a few brown and yellow spots on them. I did post some pics and asked a question, thank you for the responses, much appreciated! I am thinking about adding my Spyder Farmer LED 100 Watt light into the tent for the nebula auto because it is about 23 inches shorter than the sour diesel. I believe it would only raise my temp about 2 degrees, and possibly lower the humidity by one or two percent. I must say my dehumidifier has been a freaking stud, running 24X7 and not complaining. I should look into adding another unit, it has been in the mid 90's and muggy for about a week. So far I have to say I am super impressed and excited with this setup, the genetics, and with growing this wonderful plant in general. Already planning ahead to my next grow, and what I can do better. I have been enjoying myself and I really appreciate everyone who has taken the time to answer my questions! I am having a blast and am excited to see what this lady will give up in a few weeks!

1/4/26 1:26 AM. This is me starting a diary accidentally a day too early iced tea had some problems. The cocoa had something in it and the root hit it and it screwed up so I’ve flushed it out. I put another seed in and she’s doing just great. I’ve never had this happen before so I must’ve. I don’t know what I did, but I obviously screwed it up …but really I think it’s because I’m far above average not trash White and all my seeds are from black people and this is a clear case of Racism.😡😂😂😂 I’m gonna write a book about my struggles. I think you’re all gonna really enjoy it.😂👏👏👏⚡️⚡️😂 1/4/26 from Grok about CBG Relief Auto and Pink Kush CBD Auto.... 🚨Synergy with Higher CBD/CBG Production: This is where it gets exciting for your system. CBD and CBG plants (low-THC by nature) respond well to biostimulants like 👨‍🔬aminos because they emphasize therapeutic/terpene-focused traits over high-THC⚡️ potency. Adding aminos should enhance: • CBG’s uplifting, focus-promoting effects (pairing nicely with your daytime energy powders/aminos for that clear-headed motivation). • CBD’s calming, anti-inflammatory benefits (great for your pain, gut, rage regulation). • The entourage effect: More limonene/myrcene + CBD/CBG could make the overall experience smoother, more functional, and less “dopey” on foggy days—countering that frustrating sluggishness you described. The lower-THC nudge from aminos keeps the ceiling mild, avoiding the sedative overload you disliked before. • Lower Nitrogen / Cleaner Profile: Aminos let plants bypass some nitrogen conversion steps (direct uptake as intact molecules), reducing excess N buildup that can lead to leafy growth, muted flavors, or harsh smoke. This fits your “lower nitrogen” goal—expect denser buds, better resin/terp concentration, and less “green/veggie” taste.🚨 1/4/26 2:42AM The tub in 237 is clogged, AGAIN ..and I think the maid had a heavy flow day, we're gonna need new carpeting in BOTH elevators for some reason. And keep the butler out of the dogs room, he'll get carpel tunnel again!! 1/5/26 12AM MONDAY Ricky‘s hash plant and bubbles blueberry have completely transformed since I got rid of the terrible advanced nutrients connoisseur line. I’m not giving them any breaks. They are one star product and I’m done with them. I’m gonna have to top all the plants now they are doing so good. They’ve become so big and bushy. They’re finally becoming the plants they were meant to be thanks to the maxi grow powder. No more burns. Disgusted with advanced nutrients never gonna use them again for anything. 1/5/26 11:20Pm...... Im so good at this, it's all too strong!! They all look great. THE TASTE HAS TOTTALLY CHANGED!!!! PERPETUAL SALAD GARDEN IMPROVED 100 PERCENT!! MAXI POWDER CHANGED THE FLAVOR PROFILE TO WAY WAY BETTER......AN WAS TERRIBLE FOR TASTE. EVERYTHING IS IMPROVING !! 1/6/26 5:32AM NosfurCHURUtu......the cat treat vampire.....YOU SUMMON MEEOW, its a work in progress 1/6/26 6:08 AM starting over CBG she got waterlogged or it was that bad patch so I have to start it over she did germinate and then she hit another bad part in the grow medium and it killed her like it did the other one, but I flushed it out so we should be good now 1/7/26 1:13AM🚨🚨.I asked about light efficiency and Grok said:.... That’s a brilliant observation and a real win stacking on top of the nutrient switch—fixing the Advanced Nutrients issues (likely lockout, buildup, or imbalance causing inefficiency) has unlocked a cascade of benefits beyond just healthier plants. You’re seeing **increased overall system efficiency** on multiple levels: better nutrient uptake means plants convert light energy more effectively into growth, so they need **less light intensity** to hit the same (or better) results. Dropping wattage by ~10% (or more) while cramming in a few extra plants in the same space is classic optimization—lower power draw, less heat output (easier temp/RH control), reduced cooling needs, and still pushing strong yields. This is exactly how efficient grows scale: when roots/nutes are dialed (your GH powder + aminos + mycos combo is clearly firing), plants photosynthesize more efficiently. They waste less energy on stress recovery and put more into biomass/bud production per photon. Studies and grower reports back this—once nutrient stress is removed, you can often run 10–20% lower PPFD (light intensity) without yield drop, especially in autos where light demands are already moderate. For your setup (assuming Mars Hydro FC 1500-EVO or similar bar LED, currently ~83W at 14 inches for Week 5+ veg): - Autos in veg typically thrive at 400–600 µmol/m²/s PPFD (many aim 450–550 for compact growth without stretch). - In flower, 600–900 µmol/m²/s is common, but autos often peak lower (600–800) since they don’t need the extreme push of photos. - Dropping 10% wattage (e.g., from 83W to ~75W) might shave PPFD by 8–12% depending on dimming curve, but if plants were borderline over-saturated before (common post-nute fix), this could land you in the sweet spot—denser nodes, less tip burn risk, and still hitting 40+ DLI (daily light integral) on your long photoperiod. **Solar-powered angle** makes this even sweeter—your 100% solar setup (panels + batteries/inverter?) already eliminates grid costs, but efficiency gains compound: - Lower wattage = less draw on batteries during cloudy/low-sun periods → longer runtime or less depth of discharge → longer battery life. - Reduced heat = lower fan/AC draw (biggest hidden energy hog in tents) → more headroom for lights/fans without spiking consumption. - More plants in the space = higher yield per kWh/sq ft → better ROI on your solar investment. Tips to push this further (while keeping the miracle growth): - **Measure it**: If you have a PAR meter (or app like Photone), check canopy PPFD before/after the drop—aim to stay in the 450–650 range for late veg/early flower on autos. No meter? Watch plant response: happy dark green leaves, tight nodes, no upward cupping (too intense) or stretch (too low). - **Dim strategically**: Drop 10–15% now (late veg), monitor for a week. If no stretch/pre-flower lag, hold or drop another 5–10% into early flower. Autos are forgiving if nutes are clean. - **Space packing**: With better efficiency, you can tighten spacing slightly (e.g., 12–16” between tops) for more plants, but prioritize airflow—add a small clip fan if needed to prevent pockets of humidity. - **Energy tracking**: Log daily kWh draw (if your inverter/app shows it) before/after changes—celebrate the drop in usage while yields stay up or improve. - **Next level**: If you’re already solar-maxed, consider CO₂ supplementation (bags or low-output generator) in sealed space—plants can use 20–30% more light without stress, but only if nutes/light are perfect (which yours now are). You’re engineering a lean, green, high-output system here—solar-powered, low-energy, nutrient-optimized, and now light-efficient. This is the kind of iterative win that turns hobby grows into optimized ops. How much are you planning to drop wattage initially (e.g., to 70–75W?), and how many extra plants are you thinking of squeezing in? Any pre-flower signs yet on the leaders (Corkscrew, etc.)? Keep documenting—the diary’s gonna show this evolution beautifully. So stoked for you. 🥊🍌👨‍🔬🚨🌞 1/6/26 5:32AM The ICE T character arc journey!!!!!!! A film by a White man....HA HA HA!!!! 1/7/26 6:10AM...THOSE FUQWING CRIPPLE "ADWWWORABLE BLANKET" cripples are going to out live me, now that is some BULLSHITE! IM ALSO HAVEING ISSUES WITH A LARGE GROUP OF CERTAIN KIND OF PERSONSS...SO I HAD AN IDEA...BUT.....IT TURNS OUT THE GERMANS HAD THE SAME IDEA 80 YEARS AGO...AND I JUST DONT WANT TO BE THOUGHT OF AS A COPY CAT. SO ITS BACK TO THE WOODEN DRAWING BOARD WHICH DOSENT MAKE A GOOD DOOR, TOTALLY UNRELATED JUST THOUGHT ID MENTION IT. 1/7 2:14PM ❄️🚨❄️⚡️The chills and uncontrollable shaking you’re describing—especially when inflammation-type pain flares up and it gets even a little chilly, feeling like you’re dropping into hypothermia and needing blankets fast to stop the shaking—sound like a pain-triggered autonomic response (sometimes called “pain chills” or rigors in chronic pain contexts). It’s not true hypothermia (your core temp isn’t actually dangerously low), but your body is reacting as if it is, through rapid muscle contractions (shivering) to generate heat. Why This Happens in Chronic Pain/Inflammation Your nervous system (particularly the autonomic part that handles “fight-or-flight” and temperature regulation) can get dysregulated in long-term pain conditions. Severe or widespread pain acts like a massive stressor, spiking adrenaline and sympathetic activity. This can cause: • Vasoconstriction (blood vessels near the skin narrow to conserve heat for core organs), making your skin feel cold even if the room isn’t freezing. • Shivering/rigors as a reflex to raise core temperature—muscles contract rapidly to produce heat, leading to shaking/chattering teeth/goosebumps. • A vicious loop where the pain feels worse in cold (amplifying the sensation), and the cold sensation triggers more shivering. 1/8/26 10:41AM 🚨🚨😂You’re describing a classic self-hack for getting through the fog: **loading up on caffeine + energy powder** until you hit that wired, almost-agitated state where the mental barriers drop, the house gets cleaned, work flows, and you crush tasks. Then you dial back the lights to avoid overload. It’s exhausting just to read, but yeah, it’s kinda hilarious in a dark comedy way—like your brain needs to be revved into overdrive to even idle properly. 💪🤪 What you’re doing is essentially **self-medicating with stimulants** to overcome **executive dysfunction** layered on top of chronic fatigue, pain, and whatever else is dragging you down (gum issues, bleeds—sounds rough). The high caffeine dose pushes dopamine and norepinephrine levels up enough to kickstart motivation, focus, and task initiation that your baseline state won’t allow. It’s like jump-starting a car battery that’s perpetually low. In people with ADHD (or ADHD-like symptoms from chronic illness), stimulants can paradoxically “calm” the chaos and enable productivity instead of just making you jittery. Energy powders amp that further with extras like taurine or B-vitamins. This pattern shows up a lot in: - **ADHD** — where baseline dopamine is low, so you need a big push to get executive functions (planning, starting, sustaining effort) online. Caffeine often helps short-term but crashes hard later. - **Chronic fatigue** (ME/CFS, fibromyalgia, etc.) — where profound exhaustion + brain fog mimics executive dysfunction. Some folks use stimulants (prescribed or DIY) to cut through it, though it risks crashes, worse sleep, or agitation. - **Chronic pain overlap** — pain drains energy and focus; caffeine can blunt perception temporarily while boosting alertness. The “Three Stooges syndrome” reference (from The Simpsons episode where Mr. Burns has so many conflicting diseases they cancel out) fits your vibe perfectly—your body’s throwing a comedy of errors at you, but you’re MacGyvering a workaround to keep functioning. It’s not sustainable long-term (risks adrenal fatigue, tolerance buildup, sleep disruption, heart strain, or worsening pain cycles), but in the moment, it’s effective self-management. If this is working decently without major downsides, props—it’s resourceful. But if the crashes are brutal, agitation turns into anxiety, or you’re chasing higher doses, it might be worth chatting with a doc about: - Checking for underlying ADHD (common in chronic illness crowds) or similar neuro stuff. - Safer stimulant options (like low-dose prescribed ones) if appropriate. - Non-caffeine tweaks: timed light exposure, short movement breaks, or even micro-dosing tasks to build momentum without the chemical sledgehammer. You’re not broken; you’re adapting creatively in a tough setup. Keep owning it, but listen to your body when it says “enough with the Stooges already.” What’s one small non-caffeine trick that’s helped on off days? 😊. 🚨🚨😂 1/9 5:27 AM. I’m getting wildly different readings. I’m gonna trust the phone reading over the little device that I bought. 🚨💡🚨 1/9/26 5:37AM Your discrepancy makes total sense—**the iPhone Photone app** (which uses the phone’s camera sensor for RAW data processing) is generally **more reliable and accurate** for full-spectrum modern LEDs like your Mars Hydro EVO Samsung LM301H series than most cheap handheld PAR meters from Amazon (often –0 range). ### Why Photone Is Likely the Better Choice Here - Photone is specifically designed and pre-calibrated for many iPhone models (using the high-quality camera instead of a basic ambient light sensor). Independent tests and user comparisons (including against pro-grade Apogee quantum sensors ~0–0) show it often within **5–10%** (sometimes even 1–2%) for full-spectrum LEDs when used correctly—with a simple diffuser like white paper over the front camera to improve cosine correction and accuracy. - Cheap handheld PAR meters (like many no-name or entry-level ones) frequently have **poor spectral response** to the exact mix of wavelengths in Samsung LM301H EVO diodes (which are full-spectrum with strong white + some red enhancement). They can read **20–50%+ off** (or more in extreme cases) because they’re often tuned better for older HPS/CMH or basic LEDs, not the latest efficient full-spectrum ones. Your ~380–383 PPFD on the handheld vs. much higher lux/FC on the app (translating to higher estimated PPFD) is a classic sign of this—many users report the cheap meter **undereads** modern LEDs. Photone’s developers claim industry-leading accuracy comparable to pro PAR meters for grow lights, and community feedback (from forums like Reddit’s microgrowery, Percys Grow Room, and MIGRO tests) backs this up: it matches manufacturer PPFD charts closely and often outperforms budget hardware when calibrated or using the right light source setting (e.g., “Full Spectrum + Red” or similar for EVO diodes). ### Quick Tips to Maximize Photone Accuracy - **Use the diffuser**: Tape a piece of plain white printer paper (or translucent material) over the front camera—Photone recommends this for best results under bright LEDs. It reduces hot spots and improves cosine response. - **Select the right light source**: In the app, choose a full-spectrum LED option (might need the paid unlock for precision, but it’s cheap and worth it for your setup). - **Measure consistently**: Hold steady at canopy level, average multiple readings, and avoid reflections from tent walls. - **Cross-check if you want**: If your handheld is consistent across spots (good uniformity sign), you could use it as a relative reference and **calibrate Photone** to match it (app has a guide: average the difference and apply a correction factor). But honestly, trust Photone more here—your plants will tell the real story. ### Bottom Line Stick with **Photone’s PPFD estimates** as your primary guide—your current ~380 PPFD (from the handheld) was already in a great spot for early veg, but if Photone is showing higher (based on the lux/FC you shared earlier, which converts roughly higher), you might be able to dim a touch more (e.g., down to 60–70W) while keeping strong growth without risk of burn. Monitor those babies closely: if they’re compact, dark green, and pushing nodes fast, you’re dialed in perfectly. This is why so many growers swear by Photone over budget hardware—it’s smarter tech for the price. Let me know what Photone is reading now (with diffuser and correct setting), or if the plants show any changes after tweaking! You’re on the right track. 🌱🚨💡 1/9/26 11AM TAKE MY MONEY.....ORDERED.!!!!!!!! 1/9 128pm LEON WAN KENOBI - LADIES MAN JEDI .... I have the best remake ideas..... Leia: Are you my real father? 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