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This week I decided to remove the LST and let her strech out as much as she wants. I lollipopped her on day 49 and cutted down all the branches that will never grow to the light. She has to strech as much as possible because there are some way taller plants under the same light. I hope she gonna produce some nice flower and will continue to strach abit. Thanks Fastbuds for the Amazing Strain !
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Kind of gave up on the weekly updates lol but here we are closing in on the end of the cycle! 3 bears is looking absolutely amazing, I’m so excited for the harvest. Basically no signs of deficiency whatsoever except for the occasional oddball leaf. Buds are shaping up nicely and getting close to maturity, currently around 80% milky so once I start seeing some amber pop up I’ll switch to flush mode for a week or so.
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SANlight - Spannabis 2025
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2 feet high by 20" wide. Watering daily, little less than a liter. PH still coming in close to 7, (+/- 0.3) Never over-water, have kept soil moist since seedling, letting it dry overnight. Always mix 0,50 ml / 1 L
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Una verdadera californiana! la verdad sin palabras al cruzarnos con esta cepa ya hace 2 aΓ±os manteniendola.. Aveces afrutada,aveces muy amaderada pero siempre intensa..!
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Week 1 went off perfectly, purples babies reaching WEEK 2! 😍 PRESENTATION OF THE LADIES 😍 ------------------------------------------ The four plants are the same genetic. But they already have a different look, and I would introduce them to you :) 1) The Ugly - She have terrible first leaves. But she isn't late compared to the other. So I still believe in my Ugly! 2) The fatties - 2 of them grew wide leaves. It's just about leaves shape for now. 3) The solar panel - This one grew less wide but longer leaves. Regarding the Ugly, I must say that for the 4 seeds, I had to manually remove the shell when they sprouted. They all had their shell on after sprouting, and I don't like that. Probably a bit old seeds? For now, they share the same needs, and seems all happy. But this might change. I may even not be abble to recognize them, except if I cheat on them by putting labels on their pots ^^ πŸ’§ WATERING πŸ’§ ------------------ Luckily, the weather is offering some rains, and I been abble to put the ladies out under the rain during day 7 and 8. Not that long, they still got watered on Day 8, some hours after the rain. With feeding for the first time! πŸ— FEEDING πŸ— ------------------ First feeding. Used Fish-mix at 0.8ml/L. I plan to have a second watering in the week, but without nutrients. That's why I written 0.4ml/L in diary settings. If you know me, you also know that I like Fish-mix, but that I'm also effraid of it ^^ As foliar later during veg, it's an awesome products, easy to see that plants love it. But it seems verry powerfull, and need to be used carefully when given to plant. My rule is to limit to 50% of recommended dose. For now. Anyway, Fishmix right after a rain must turn on every form of life in soil I believe πŸ˜€ Even life coming from rain. 🏑 GROWING CONDITIONS 🏑 ----------------------------------- Starting an indoor session on the end of summer seems a good choice for me: - Some rains that provide me better water - I can put the ladies out if verry sunny, to save electricity/money - Perfect temps in the grow room. My house is always windows open. ​The growroom lightup in the end of the afternoon, when the day get cooler - Plants will flowering indoor during winter. I need heat during winter, so thanks grow room :D And cold air mean verry dry air! So reaching low humidity on the end of flowering will be verry easy! Pests : Nothing to report for now. I'm expecting a visit of my good old friends the thrips in 2-3 weeks 😎 Grow tent & Light (XS2000 ViparSpectra) : Something I notice just now: I'm abble to close the grow tent without air-extraction. I never been abble to do that in the past. This light is waaaay more efficient, and produce way less heat, because I couldn't keep tent close with my previous Mars Hydro TSW2000. Don't be effraid, I still renew the air in tent multiple times a day ;) πŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œ Thanks for reading guys :) Thanks for crossing your fingers last week, as you can see.... it worked! PS : Improved my skill with my new camera. But except more and more better ones as I practice ^^ πŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œ Update Day 13: Plants watered with PH 6.2 water. Look at that Hugly... She really have a problem πŸ˜… I'll try my best with her πŸ™Œ
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She flowered very fast. The smaller ones smell different and have more shiny flowers very nice, it smelled very strong at the end, while trimming the buds a smell of fruit and gas spread trough the whole house
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11/04/2025 What a busy day. I put up the trellis net last night and had to take it down today for a little while. Both ladies got a new water swap and a new week of nutrients. We've taken out the Grow nutrients and replaced it with Boost. So far they seem to be fine. Looking great even. Not much else to report. It was a busy day. Setting up for a new feed. Then other stuff not related to weed. Both plants have grown to about 17". A little shorter than I'd hoped by now, but they still have stretching to do. I feel like it should be a few more days of stretch then full blown flowering. It looks like Lemon Cherry Cookies is gonna have some super tight stacks. Tight internodal spacing. Anyway, let's hope for 24" or more. On a side note. I'm wondering now if I started the Bloom Nutrients a bit too early. That could be why they aren't already 2 feet tall. Anyway, it's only been a few days. I'm also concerned about stopping the grow nutes this week, but that's what the instructions say. I could add a tiny bit just so they have some growing nutrients left for the stretch? Is that a thing? So we have an automated environment. Today I dropped the humidity and frankly the tent seems to be having trouble getting down there. The fan is running full blast and the humidity is stuck at 52%. The AI doesn't like that so it's chilling away at it one little percent at a time. Lol. Temp is pretty solid during both the day and night. Anyway, that's all for today. 11/05/2025 Almost forgot to do today's check in. First let me start by apologizing for my lack of detailed information. Home life is hectic and I honestly forget to add it. So I'll try much harder to provide more details related to the growing. Like daily TDS and EC. pH is done daily. Although, I have a major problem that I think I found a solution for. How do you change out the water from a DWC system when the top is in a scrog net. Well, in this case it's very simple. A water pump with 2 hoses and a second bucket. Pump the water out, pH, put the water back in. I might have to get a water cooler to do it, but that's ok. I'll get one of the DIY version. For water changes, just as simple. Drain the water into the second bucket then fill the bucket back up with fresh nutrients. However, I think a weekly change would be required to prevent buildup that I can't get to and not every 2 weeks. I'll see what happens I guess, but the ladies are officially in the net. I had to lower it so it's touching the lower colas. I fed the taller ones under the net. And how flat it is. See the pic. Super flat. Very satisfying. Papaya Cookies... Not so flat. Very chaotic with her branches. The left side closest to the wall is like half the height as the middle and the right side is growing straight up to avoid the other plant. It's really weird. Anyway, scrogging that will be a bit of a chore I think. But it needs to be done. I want some quality tops and this is the best way to achieve that goal. Bushy as ever, Lemon Cherry Cookies is turning out to be a beautiful plant. Super flat canopy and leaves galore. She'll definitely need a haircut after the stretch. Don't know how much of one. I like to keep my ladies a little bit leafy while not blocking bud sites or airflow. Papaya Cookies is looking great! Her stem is almost as thick as her counterpart even with the damage she survived, but I'm still getting signs of deficiency. Oh well. I know it's not the nutrients. They are at the right strength. I think. Nearly full dose. But still I think it's just a lack of roots and a choke hold still in the stem. Other than that she is looking absolutely fantastic. Buds everywhere, good color and lots of branches. We'll get them spread out in no time. The Other One... It's growing bud. How is it growing bud?! I found a fungus in the tray so I took it out and I'm keeping it out, but just in case, I sprayed the plants and the fungus with the crop defender 3 stuff. It's really interesting how you can see what I did throughout the plant. Like I starved her, you can see that. The. I overdosed her, you can see that, and I left her alone. Can kinda see that. Now it's grow light deprivation. Instead she gets a 60 watt bulb with a lamp shade. Hahahaha. We'll see what happens. Honestly I can't wait to see what she ends up doing on the end. Will she make it to harvest? Will she wither and die well before harvest? I don't think so. I'm gonna give her a normal dose when I feed her next. I think I've said this before, but unfortunately I can't lift the tray at all. The roots are routed throughout the tray and can be damaged when I place the tray back down, or exposed to the light. Surprisingly I haven't seen any algae. So that's that with the other one. She has a single cola and it looks like it's gonna get big. Hahahaha imagine that. This beat up science experiment grows a huge juicy cola loaded with terps. The environment is giving the AI system a bit of trouble today. I changed the environmental settings for the flowering stage. The temp is still 75Β°, but I changed the Humidity to 50%. That being said, the system can't get the temp below 76Β° and the humidity below 56%. I have a dehumidifier in there to help, but I think the only thing it's doing is making the tent hotter. Like really, the humidity won't budge. The dehumidifier I'm getting is on pre order, so I'm trying to work with what I have. It's kinda tough. Well, not for me. But the AI is having a tough time. Lol. I'm gonna open it for a bit and give the exhaust a bit of a break. Nutrients are looking really good. No negative reacti8at all. Kinda think I should've added a little bit of grow in there to help with the stretch. But I think it's too late. They already have established flowers. Also, they're only drinking around a half gallon a day. I would have thought they would be at a gallon by now. Maybe next week. I think they'll get big enough. They are still in early stretch and they're already 17" or 18" tall and growing fast. If my time lapse video show correctly, they are growing roughly an eighth of an inch every half hour to an hour as of the beginning of the week. If she grows a little faster, like a quarter inch every half hour, she should be pretty tall. Not sure how tall, but I'm guessing maybe 29" to 36" total. 36" would be fantastic. Good internodal spacing with a plant that tall. Lemon Cherry Cookies might just end up with colas as long as my forearm, like my Gorilla Cookies run a couple year ago. Great run, that. That's all for today. 11/06/2025 Aargh! Lost the whole entry. Ok, so I'm not writing the whole thing again. It's now the 7th and I'll update later today. But yesterday, we had some awesome growth and the trellis net was lowered to the canopy. I tucked the tallest tops. I also topped off their buckets a little over a half gallon each. Don't know if I mentioned it, but I dropped the light power down to level 8. They took to it like I thought they would. Nice little reach. Not that they weren't having issues at level 9, but I want more stretch. Makes it easier to trim. Lol. 11/07/2025 I desperately need help. So I put the trellis net up and now I can't pH the water. I can't get the plants out of the buckets. Does anyone know how to do this? Seriously need help. Anyway, for now I have taken the trellis off. The branches are really strong, so there shouldn't be any issues. And the pH is now back to 5.8. No idea how it keeps climbing so high. It was 6.7 today. Crazy high. I premix my water too, so it's all settled and mixed up. Then I give it one last good shake and pH before pouring it in. Still climbs. Eventually I'll figure it out... Unlike the damned trellis net thing. Lol. Anyway, we have some beautiful growth. 19" tall and happy. Well, no. Papaya Cookies has serious signs of deficiency. I'm guessing magnesium. Or whatever helps deliver through the stem. It's clogging up. The roots are also not very impressive. But other than that, she's growing pretty fast and has a whole lot of bud sites. The bad leaves are classic signs of deficiency. Yellow spots and whatnot. But they aren't too bad yet. I'll keep her going just in case she makes it. Maybe she'll have some good bud considering she's dying. Lemon Cherry Cookies looks great as well! No issues whatsoever. Even with the water pH level. I should also mention that her root ball is naw massive and getting bigger. By the time she's done growing, she should be a good 30" if the light will allow it. It's only 19" from the canopy. But it's maxed out. Damned small tent! I will have to figure out a way to raise the light even higher. But she's looking great! Drinking an easy half gallon a day. Maybe a bit more. Tons of bud sites and what's nice is that they aren't quite flowers yet, so there's more stretching to be done. The Other One:... .......... The environment was pretty good today. A solid 76Β° temp and 52% humidity. Good numbers. I'm also thinking about the size of this tent and what that entails. Harder to keep the temp and humidity under control. Plants are a bit more difficult to work with unless you don't move them at all... Or only grow one. Nope. Not happening. Lol. 2 or more. Over all, a 6 foot tent is not the best option. Next is a 4x4. Gotta have it. I'm losing way too much graw space. The two plants I'm currently running. If it were a 4x4, these 2 could flourish without ever touching the other. That makes them even bigger. More space. More growth. That's all for today. 11/08/2025 We start our day out with a couple clippings. Just a few leaves off each plant. The a few super big ones and 2 that were big and facing inward. It's about an hour before lights out for them, so they are a bit droopy. No matter. They'll perk back up when the lights turn back on. I've also read that clipping before dark and feeding at first light are a thing. Apparently, and I believe it, training and trimming at night is the best time as the plants heal better in the dark rest period. Feeding in the morning helps the plant to take in nutrients most efficiently. In turn, the plant gets healed quickly and feeds strong. Utilizing the entire day. That's what I've read at least and I'm doing that. Although, I do chack pH and water levels before dark, I don't do anything unless the pH is out of control or the water is really low. So far I've only let it get down about 2 inches, maybe 3. But I top off at the beginning of each day. So far it's about 3/4 gallon. I expect a gallon a day next week. They are growing so fast. And bud sites are everywhere as well as at least 42 tops between the 2 plants. I didn't get an count, but as it looks, it's around 40 to 50. 42 is superficial. Papaya Cookies looks pretty good for a nutrient deprived plant. She's a fighter. I also started taking the bad leaves off. They don't need to take up energy to heal a leaf. I have a theory. The plant is starving, right? I assume it's due to the size. What happens if I take a whole lot of leaves off. Wouldn't that help the plant distribute nutrients in a more concentrated dose? Maybe the plant will still require all those nutes, but it's no longer supporting tons of leaves and only bud sites. I'd take about 2/3 total off of her. I'll be doing that in small amounts after the stretch. Lemon Cherry Cookies definitely needs a haircut. She'll also be getting about 2/3 snipped off. I might do it in 2 sessions. She's healthy enough to take it without a problem. Her canopy is super flat, except for this one top that grew about 3 inches last night. I don't have the scrog net there anymore, so I'm trying to figure out how to tie her down. The clips are too big for the internodal spacing. I'm thinking of it gets over 4 inches, I'm gonna supercrop it. However, the rest of the plant grew about an inch. Not quite as fast as I'd hoped. But there's still time. The light is still topped out with its current rig, and it's only about 18" from the canopy. But the plants seem to be happy with it. I'll keep an eye on it. Hopefully I'll remember to take a reading after the plants wake up. I can't tell, but I might be able to bump the light power back up to 90%. I don't think it will stress them, but it might and I don't want to stress them yet. The environment is pretty good. Not perfect, but pretty good. The humidity keeps spiking to the top of my limit at 55% it climbs a little bit over, but not for very long. I need a better dehumidifier. 11/09/2025 I can't tell if it's good or bad that I can snap leaves off right at the base just by tugging down on them. I'm guessing good? I've seen people with super healthy plants do that. I wonder if it's better for the plant, like to heal. We'll see. I took some leaves off today. A couple days early, but they were really starting to crowd. So I plucked a bunch off each plant. They didn't seem to mind at all. About an hour and a half before lights out. I'll also have to top them off again. Definitely thirsty plants. I think Papaya Cookies is a little bit ahead of Lemon Cherry Cookies. Not sure how, but she has very well forming buds, where Lemon Cherry Cookies is just starting to form them. She's also drinking more. Not a lot more, but noticably. I also think the stretch is over. From my experience and from what I've read, when the buds start to take actual shape, the stretch is coming to an end. Then it's just stacking. I'm starting to see stacks on both plants now. So it was the perfect time to do a. Light defoliation. In a day or 2, I'll do a full defoliation. As they are autos, I'm only taking about 1/3 of the leaves. If I have to pluck a few here and there afterwards, it's fine. Papaya Cookies is looking really good despite having less uptake at this stage. She's really thirsty though and I'm wondering if that's a good thing absorbing more nutrients to pull in. I'll keep feeding her. I don't think she's gonna die either. Far from it. I give them about 2 to 3 weeks at this growth rate. Probably 3 more weeks. Lol. I'm guessing end of November to early December. She has a whole canopy of tops. The left side is a little low still, but nowhere near as bad as before. So far everything seems to be leveling out on its own. Lemon Cherry Cookies looks absolutely fantastic. She has a whole canopy of tops now and more coming in as I trim away the foliage. Bud sites all up and down each branch, with stacks starting on some of the tops. She's gonna be a good yielder. I'm not putting any guesses in quite yet. I don't have a feel for what she'll produce. She's an indica, so I'm expecting huge fat dense buds. They should drop with resin. As long as I do it properly that is. Lol. The environment is looking great. I decided to drop the night temp to 65Β°. Not that it goes that low. It stays around 67Β°. Which is fine. I just wanna prep them for some really good colors. My only concern now is the dehumidifier. Mine will definitely not cut it. I can try to plug one more in, but it's also a small one. Hmmmm, maybe the second one will work. I just have to find it. Lol. All in all a good day. I'll check back in later if there's any updates. Update: 22" is the end height for the stretch. That's both plants. They are totally level. But they didn't grow one bit during lights out. Not one bit, but the buds are forming. And we have stacking. Next week (in 2 days) I'm going to give them the full trim. Not a ton of leaves. Just big ones and ones facing in. Light height is 18.5" I I had slack I didn't realize I had. 2 inches. Looks great! And they are drinking quite nicely. Papaya Cookies is at about 3/4 gallon a day and Lemon Cherry Cookies is at a little over half a gallon. I got a pic of the root ball for you. It's massive. 11/10/2025 Well, today was trimming day. I had planned on it tomorrow, but I got bored this morning before lights out. So I thought to myself. "Hey, it's about an hour til lights out. They stopped stretching, so why not " lol. The only thing I'm not a fan of is that they are already starting to drop for lights out it's probably because they get too much light, but they don't seem to mind. Anyway, the fact that they are already droopy means I can't tell how much stress I'm putting on the plants during the one and only trim session. I'm assuming because they didn't drop much more, they're good to go and will heal up nicely during theights out period. It's only hearsay, but lights out means healing time. Sure... Why not? Makes sense. Papaya Cookies is really looking good. She doesn't seem to be showing anymore signs of deficiency, whatever it was. And is growing happily. Her flowering sites are huge. I'm expecting some fat bugs from this one. Probably long though, because of her sativa leaning stuff. Trimming her was pretty easy. I was surprised at how many open spots there are in the canopy. A couple huge ones that will hopefully fill out over the coming weeks. Lemon Cherry Cookies is really looking good. She has a whole bunch of tops forming and trimming was an absolute breeze. I hardly used the trimmers. No need. The leaves I wanted snapped off with ease. Everything that was big or old. Anything that didn't pop off was left alone. Just over 1/3 of the plant. She's still quite full and has very little space for more tops. Maybe if they spread out a bit around the outside, but that may be the time for scrogging. I don't think so though. Speaking of scrogging, I found out how to pH the water with the plant still in the bucket. Top off everyday with pHed water. Sounds simple, but what if there's no space to top her off? Well, my solution was to buy a small water pump. Pump a gallon out, pH it, and dump it back in. I haven't had to do that, but if that's the case, it's a great idea. Chances are you won't be doing this much or at all. But yah, I guess a simple top up will do the trick. At least for the most part. I found yesterday that the pH was a bit low, so I topped off with a slightly higher pH than normal. Landed right on 5.8. so it clearly works. So simple I completely looked over it. So far the environment is nice today. It's been snowing today, so the humidity in the house is super low. It's keeping the humidity in the tent at or around 50%. The temp is a bit high at 71Β° for lights out. I have it set to 65Β° for night temps. It won't get that low. Maybe 67Β° but that's about it without an air conditioner in the tent. Currently it's 68Β° in the house. 36% humidity. So that's really it for today. Both pants stopped stretching for sure. But they are stacking. So that's good. Tons of tops. Trimming was awesome. What a morning. Good times.
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Mar 31 I think things are going very well, one plant has rusty spots, pretty sure its calcium deficiency, will be upping across the board. Got the runoff ppm to a good spot, will be going back to 800ppm feeds by week 8, 750ppm this week. I want more stable genetics next time, I am way to new to be dealing with basically 3 different strains, that's what it feels like, and I have very little time as it is. Thinking of upping PPFD some more, i think the droop of the one plant was just adapting to watering till runoff, I want to see some fattening AND RIGHT NOW.
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Not bad these girls are loving the Sun.
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Week 4 already!!! The plant is doing great this week, the weather continues to be great so hopefully it stays like this until the end of flowering! September 5: water September 6: nothing September 7: nothing September 8: water September 9: nothing September 10: some more spray with spider mite (only bigger leaves, of course not on the buds) September 11: nothing
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Strain very resistant, although I had some problems with this, unfortunately having grown up in Outdoor the bad weather ripped away almost all the sunbathing, the plant weakened and had problems with aphids. Despite this she managed to complete the flowering cycle, harvested not abundant given all the problems mentioned above, but the buds she produced are quality with a scent of blueberry mixed with really strong fruit. Small but compact buds covered with resin πŸ€™
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First day went as expected. I put the paper towel in a small see-thru plastic container and put it on the table. With a bit of water and the seeds in side, the germination has now started! Day 2 no progression, moved the tray into my furnace room (pitch black and warm) Day 3 major progression. I got them out and started to prep the jiffy pellets. Shortly after I transferred the roughly half inch tarp roots with seeds into the jiffy pellets, root down, seed up, slightly covered with dirt. I soaked them in water (like a beginner i overwatered heavily knowing what I know now). I placed them back in the tray and put them at a window for light. (Note) the plan was to do outdoor so no light or tent was ordered at this point. Day 4-7 not much progression seeing as the clouds and rain showed up...
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Harvest time! Finally! Super happy with this grow! I'll update harvest with pics of jarred buds after it dried πŸ’š Last values were 200 ppmπŸ’š
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Wk8 Flower (2nd week of flower day 15) So this week has been another quiet week. I have been pinching out big fan leaves that are cover multiple tops to persuade even growth over the canopy. I have also cleaned out under her skirt a bit more to get rid of the unwanted and wasted growth. Only water with EM1 has been added to the res over the week she is currently drinking up to 6ltrs a day and growing around an inch taller in a 24hour period. I noticed a bad stagnant smell coming from the res so have added some lacto bacillus serum which should help that settle. Although the plant isn't complaining bad smells normally means bad microbes which in numbers are very bad. She is showing alot of pistols now and I'd expect to see bud sites prominent by end of the week mind you I don't actually think she has fully started to stretch yet! I'm keeping an eye on her closely as next week I am away and was hoping that stretch would have come and gone by now. We will see!! This week I plan to add some water soluable calcium and an alfalfa seed sprout tea. I've started to drop my humidity down every couple of days to simulate change and have my light set at 40cm
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Hey guys :-) The lady has developed very nicely this week πŸ‘. They were planted in their 8 liter pot where they can now really take root again. Depending on what time is left in the vegi phase, you might be trained :-) . Otherwise everything was cleaned and checked. Have fun and stay healthy πŸ’šπŸ™πŸ» πŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌ You can buy this Nutrients at : https://greenbuzzliquids.com/en/shop/ With the discount code: Made_in_Germany you get a discount of 15% on all products from an order value of 100 euros. πŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌπŸ‘‡πŸΌ You can buy this strain at : Clearwater Seeds Water πŸ’§ πŸ’§πŸ’§ Osmosis water mixed with normal water (24 hours stale that the chlorine evaporates) to 0.2 EC. Add Cal / Mag to 0.4 Ec Ph with Organic Ph - to 5.8 - 6.5 MadeInGermany