May 10, 2024 Day 85 A new week and I'm not sure these 2 are ready for flushing. They have way too many white pistils. Plenty of orange, though. Banana Purple Punch A has more orange pistils. Both got a gallon of nutrient water today. So they are definitely still drinking somewhat heavily. And they haven't slowed down yet. I'll keep an eye on them though. Flushing will have to happen sometime. I'd say in the next 3 waterings. That's just a guess based on their current progress. It just seems that they aren't done swelling and there's absolutely no purple coming through yet. Banana Purple Punch A still looks great. Her buds are starting to weight down the taller tops and they are slightly leaning toward the outside of the plant. It's actually quite good. It's opening up even more space for the lowers to get as much light as possible. Air flow is great as well. This is especially important because she is in the back directly under a clip fan. So it's more prone to mold. At least that's what happened in my last grow. This time I have another clip fan across from this one, so the air circulates throughout the whole tent, top to bottom. Banana Purple Punch B looks great! She's not bending any tops, but I don't expect her to with how strong her branches are. Practically immovable. However, she's definitely getting more jiggly. And she has huge buds top to bottom. I wonder if that's the reason she doesn't budge. No room. Lol. Honestly, she may be really compact, but I have her branches spread out enough for good airflow. There's just a couple of clusters that are a bit too dense with foliage, but it doesn't seem to be a problem. Lots of airflow and light. She's a bit behind her sister plant. Way more white pistils and orange on this one. No signs of purple whatsoever. Just a healthy growing plant. I'll be checking trichomes later today if I'm up to it. I hurt my back earlier. Regardless of that, I'll be getting trichome pics today or tomorrow. Probably tomorrow with videos at the end of the week. It's been quite some time since I last took trichome pics. Bad planning on my part. However, I'm excited to see how much further along they are from last time. I won't be changing the light for another few days I think. Then I'll drop the power down. As I said before, I don't think they are ready for flushing, so not ready for light changes. The environment is still a bit off. Today the temp is 76° but the humidity is still high at 56%. This is sure to ruin something. I'm still trying to get the humidity down. I have a feeling I just don't have enough air exchange in my bed room. I'm going to continue messing with it until it's right though. Grow System Environment: Temp: 74.1° RH: 54.2% VPD: 1.29 kPa May 11, 2024 Not a lot going on today. Just some pictures. Banana Purple Punch A is looking really good. She looks to have another week or so. I'm really confused as to why my plants take so long to grow and finish up. Banana Purple Punch B has completely caught up with her sister plant. She has the same amount of orange pistils. That tells me there isn't much left to go. If she caught up, that means Banana Purple Punch A is even closer to being done than I think. Maybe. I'll check the trichomes again tomorrow. No pics unless they are done. I doubt they will be. Especially Banana Purple Punch B. On the other hand Banana Purple Punch A could have only a couple days left and just isn't going to turn purple or fade at all. I'm going to start flushing in a couple days I think. They both look about ready for it. Plus, they are about as big as they are going to get. I think the flush will bring out the colors. So next watering will be the beginning of the flush cycle. It should be in a couple days. Also, both ladies have slowed down on their water intake. So the reservoirs should be empty in 2 to 3 days. Probably 2 days. Then I can clean them out and get to it. The lights are going to be turned down when flushing begins. I'm going to aim for a DLI of 36 mol/m²/d for the rest of the grow. It shouldn't be anymore than a week of flushing before they are done. The environment is still messed up. It got down to 49% yesterday for a couple hours, but then this morning it was right back up to 54%. The temp is fine at 76° Still not cold enough at night, but I have time. A few days to work it out. I'd like to be down to 65° by then for the last week of their lives. Grow System Environment: Temp: 73.1° RH: 53.7% VPD: 1.27 kPa Update: I decided to check the trichomes anyway. Banana Purple Punch A has quite a few cloudy trichomes. Very few amber and a bit too many clear. I'd say she has about 5 days left. Banana Purple Punch B also has quite a few cloudy trichomes. However, she has about 15% to 20% clear trichomes. Amber trichomes are basically nonexistent. There's a few here and there, but mostly on the sugar leaves and not on the buds themselves. I'd say she has another 7 days left. Honestly I don't want to harvest them separately. I'd rather harvest them at the same time, so I might harvest them in 6 days. Right in between. Maybe 7 days if Banana Purple Punch A isn't quite there yet. To be honest, I have no real idea with this strain. They seem to be getting there, but there's no purple, still a lot of clear trichomes and it's been 12 weeks. So it could be another 2 weeks for all I know. I'd like to push them as far as they need, but I have 4 other plants that need to come in the tent ASAP. So I may have to chop a bit earlier than I really want to. I'll post some trichome pics tomorrow and see what you all think. Comments are welcome. Lol May 12, 2024 Some pics today. I'll try to keep this one short. Banana Purple Punch A looks good. I checked the trichomes. Not done yet. I'm sticking by my 5 days estimate. So 4 days left. She doesn't seem to be drinking at all. She is, but it's a trickle. Definitely not like it was. I'll have to empty the reservoir out tomorrow and start the flushing cycle. Banana Purple Punch B also looks great. I also checked her trichomes. She is about the same as her sister plant. Not enough cloudy trichomes, but the amber ones are starting to show up. A good sign. She might be ready in 4 days. I'm still guessing 5 to 6 days. She also isn't drinking nearly as much as she was before. A great sign that she should be starting the flush. For trichome pics, I'll be posting some tomorrow. Nothing to post today. I'll be dropping the light power when I start flushing. Which should be tomorrow or the next day. As I've said before, the DLI will be around 36 mol/m²/d. The environment is a lost cause. I cannot for the life of me get the damned humidity to a reasonable level, so I'll continue to open the tent every couple of hours throughout the rest of the grow. Happily, it's only a few days to a week. The temp is a bit high today as well. 77°. I'm already working to drop it a bit without going over 60% humidity. I should be able to get it down to 74° without a problem. It's just the humidity that's killing me. Grow System Environment: Temp: 73.9° RH: 55.6% VPD: 1.25 kPa May 13, 2024 Flushing day! I decided to rinse out the basins and begin the flush. I was going to wait another day, but I think it's time. They have about a week left I think. Honestly it should be done by now, but they aren't. Lol. No matter. They should be done in about a week. Maybe slightly less. So they have been given 4 ml of Flawless Finish. It should be the only dose I have to give. Maybe one more, but I doubt it. I still need to dry the containers out. That will take a day or two. So maybe a half gallon in a few days, just to get that last push in. Banana Purple Punch A looks great! Some more lean happening with the tops. Nothing bad or anything, just a slight lean. Perfect for heavy buds. I didn't bother checking her trichomes today. No point. You can tell she's not ready just by looking at her. Banana Purple Punch B may need even more time. I'm going to have to decided what to do. Wait for this one to be done then harvest both? Or harvest one at a time as they finish up? Decisions decisions. I'll figure it out in a week. Her branches are really jiggly now. No lean exactly, more like a sway. When she gets moved her top heavy branches sway a bit. Great sign for a heavy yield from a 17" plant. Or is it 19"? Either way, it's going to have a fantastic yield compared to her size. One advantage I am seeing with the longer finish is it will give me time to dry some Tropicana Cookies I am harvesting in a couple of days. I'll be wet trimming this time around and the dry time should only take about 5 to 7 days. Maybe 10, but I'd rather not try to stuff 4 plants in a 2x2 to dry. It's a recipe for disaster. 2 at a time stacked on top of each other. I'll be dropping the light intensity tomorrow or later this afternoon. Maybe even tonight during lights out so in the morning it will be ready for the new day of less light. As I've said before... Over and over... I'll be dropping the light power to 70% which should drop the DLI down to 36 mol/m²/d. Oh, btw, I use the Photone for my light measurements. It has a PAR meter, Lux, DLI and I Believe color spectrum? Kelvin? No clue what that does. I focus on DLI. It's a better reading than just PPFD. The environment is still messy... as always... I'm keeping the temp down to 74°. The humidity at 58%. So it's still too high, but I've done all I can to drop it down and it won't even go below 50% with the tent door wide open. It just won't. So unless I can get the humidity in my room down to like 30%, the humidity in the tent remains over 50%. Hopefully pulling the plants out daily is enough to prevent mold and other issues. There's also the two circular fans. They aren't at full power, but they don't need to be as there's two. Plenty of airflow. I'll really need to keep an eye on these plants. Maybe I'll take them out multiple times a day. Like 2 or 3. Grow System Environment: Temp: 74.5° RH: 56.2% VPD: 1.25 kPa Update: I ordered a new dehumidifier for grow tents today. It should be here tomorrow. I'm guessing a lot of my problem with the humidity is my current dehumidifier. It barely pushes air. Cheap and well used. The new one is from Vivosun. A much more reputable company. May 14, 2024 Trichome day! Alright, so I took some video today. Not the best quality, but I hurt my back so I'm all shaky. The pics were a lost cause. Lol Banana Purple Punch A looks great! More leaning branches. This late in the grow, I don't care. They aren't leaning that bad and it's only showing how heavy these buds are. Trichomes are mostly cloudy with a bit left of clear and nowhere near enough amber. 5 to 6 more days I think. Banana Purple Punch B is so pretty. She has the faintest purple coming from the flowers, but not much. It is a sign that we may end up with a purple plant during flush. Trichomes are partly cloudy with 30% clear and next to no amber. She still has time to go. I'd say another 7 to 10 days. Now I'm overshooting it just incase. I don't think the plants noticed a difference in the light drop, or they did and it's not doing anything. However, I'm not sure what it should be doing. I'm guessing preserving trichomes? Makes sense. Anyway, it's staying at 36 mol/m²/d DLI. The environment is still an absolute mess. The humidity is at like 59% and as always, I can control the temp, but nothing changes the humidity. And it's like 55% humidity out today. Fail. Lol. Grow System Environment: Temp: 74.3° RH: 59.0% VPD: 1.16 kPa May 15, 2024 Nothing to do today. They are still watered and whatnot. No changes in color yet either. I'm starting to think these both will be green phenomes. Or maybe they really aren't ready yet. It's just weird. What am I doing wrong to get all my plants to grow for so long? Oh well. This round is just different because of the other 4 plants that need this space. I really need them to finish up ASAP. No trichome check today. I can still t ell they aren't ready. The bottoms still have a majority of white pistils and the tops are just not there yet. I think they can get denser. They aren't quite rock hard yet, so I know they still have time. Banana Purple Punch A looks amazing. More leaning branches that are swaying in the breeze. No fade yet, but the leaves are starting to look ready for the fade. Maybe. Banana Purple Punch B is strong as ever. Definitely still packing on weight. Definitely not ready for harvest. Still another week I think. I'll check trichomes tomorrow on this one. I think I'll wait for her to be done then I can harvest both plants at once. The light seems to be just being a light now. I can't really see what it's doing, but I know the frost is there. Lol. So it must be doing something. The environment is killing me. Still over 60% and my room has climbed up to 60% as well. I have a heater running and the dehumidifier that I think is done working. My new one should be here today. And not a moment too soon. I should have replaced this one months ago. Unfortunately, I don't have much control over the heat anymore. The humidity is just over powering it and I can't get anything to change. I'm going to crank the heat and see if that helps. Like set it to 80° and see what happens. It's currently set to 74°. And 8 don't think that temp is high enough to combat the humidity. Crank it up! Grow System Environment: Temp: 72.9° RH: 63.0% VPD: .00 kPa May 16, 2024 Today is looking pretty good. I checked the trichomes on Banana Purple Punch B as she has the longest to go. I figure when she is done, Banana Purple Punch A will be as well. I've also watered them with plain water. PHed to 6.2. just a half gallon in the reservoirs. I'm not ready to let them dry out yet. Banana Purple Punch A looks great! Her branches are starting to lean a bit harder and her buds look amazing. No purple yet. Or at all. I'm not sure. But I'm certainly sure that the fade hasn't begun yet. I'm not bothering with trichomes for now. I'll just wait to see what her sister does. I'll check trichomes in a couple of days. Banana Purple Punch B looks amazing. Her buds are fat and dense. She smells great and stays strong. A bit more swaying. But it's the whole plant now. Wonderful! I checked the trichomes on this one. She is developing quite nicely. I'd say another 5 to 7 days? Maybe a little less if we're lucky. There's more cloudy trichomes than before and finally some amber. Much less clear as well. She definitely is nowhere near fading, so that's a concern for time. The light stays the same. It seems to be perfect for these two. So no changes. The environment is still a nightmare, but it's 86% humid outside and 63% in my room. Happily, not really, the humidity is down to 60%. Not good at all, but better than 63% or even 65%. I'm really hoping these ladies are super resilient. They should be. It's FastBuds and they have great genetics. The temp is fine. I haven't a bit higher to help some with the DLI. So it's hanging out around 76° to 77° for now. The new dehumidifier works way better than the other one. But a cool thing is that they are both small, so I fit them both in and it seems to be kinda working. It's keeping the humidity below what it is in my room, but not low enough. I know it will drop when I figure out how to drop it in my room. I really need a big dehumidifier for my room. That would solve quite a bit. Grow System Environment: Temp: 75.8° RH: 62.8% VPD: 1.07 kPa

Día 54 (10/03) Riego 1,25 Litro H20 + Wholly Base 2,5 ml/l + Solid Green 2 ml/l + Early Flower 1,25 ml/l de Gen1:11 TDS 1033 PPMs - pH 6,51 Día 55 (11/03) Defoliation time! Con la increíble ayuda de @miyaguiokpolilla, @dogdoctorofficial y @growwithflow420 hice la defoliación recomendada exactamente después de 21 días cambiada a 12/12 Consejos de defoliación - Elimine menos del 20% de las hojas de abanico y solo las hojas de abanico - Retirar el tercio inferior de la planta, incluidas las ramitas. - Retirar las hojas en forma de abanico dirigidas hacia el interior de la planta. - Retire las hojas de abanico que dan sombra a los futuros cogollos. Día 56 (12/03) Esperando algo de estrés tras la defoliación... Han crecido 2 centímetros en 24 horas 😍🚀 Día 57 (13/03) Riego 1,25 Litro H20 + Wholly Base 2,5 ml/l + Solid Green 2 ml/l + Early Flower 1,25 ml/l de Gen1:11 TDS 1043 PPMs - pH 7,0 Las plantas muestras una ligera deficiencia de CalMag. Voy a subir el pH a 7.0 en este riego para mejorar la biodisponibilidad Día 58 (14/03) Siguen con su crecimientos, los cogollos formándose y las hojas de azúcar empezando a llenarse de resina Parece que la corrección de la deficiencia de CalMag ha sido muy efectiva! No hay más manchas y las plantas no paran! Día 59 (15/03) Como mañana me voy a Spannabis 😍 voy a adelantar 1 día el riego reduciéndolo a 1 litro Riego 1 Litro H20 + Wholly Base 2,5 ml/l + Solid Green 2 ml/l + Early Flower 1,25 ml/l de Gen1:11 TDS 1080 PPMs - pH 6,57 Día 60 (16/03) Spannabis time! 🚀 Día 61 (17/03) Spannabis time! 🚀 💦Nutrients by Gen1:11 - www.genoneeleven.com 🌱Substrate PRO-MIX HP BACILLUS + MYCORRHIZAE - www.pthorticulture.com/en/products/pro-mix-hp-biostimulant-plus-mycorrhizae

Bud are getting thick and very frosty!!! All of them are full of thricome and I can’t wait to harvest !! Smell is very strong in the house but honestly they are beautiful !!!! Happy growing all!!!!

Looking stunning and have so far remain short and stocky. Did plenty of defoliation and will scrog them for fat colas. Flipped the switch and week 1 flower is in the books.

~ FastBuds PAPAYA SHERBET Photoperiod~ Well here we go on another journey together through 'Canna-land' and this one's kinda special... forget that, it's VERY special because this is FastBuds newest surprise for the community, a FEMINIZED PHOTOPERIOD STRAIN!🤯 I was fortunate enough to score these seeds, of which only 1000 were available and can't wait to see what this strain can do! This Papaya Sherbet, according to FastBuds, is a hybrid with a 9-10 weeks flowering period. For a more detailed and accurate description of this strain the following from FastBuds says it best: "Combining the massive stature of Papaya (Oni Selection) with the strength and resilience of one of our best keeper cuts (Sunset Sherbet), this strain develops into a big, expansive bush adorned with numerous bud sites that later transform into a generous harvest of medium-sized buds. Papaya Sherbet flowers deliver a signature flavor of premium cannabis with subtle citrus undertones that emerge upon inhaling. During growth, her aroma makes for a sweet yet pleasantly bitter fragrance, giving you an idea of what the smoke will taste like. Notably stress-resistant, Papaya Sherbet is a great choice for growers working in challenging environments. She is very forgiving and rebounds quickly from any adversity, allowing growers the freedom to experiment with confidence that she will take everything like a champion she is. This strain embodies resilience, flavor, and abundant yields in every grow cycle." Sounds like an epic strain and I personally cannot wait for this lady to strut her stuff!😍 ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ The Setup: This is going to be an outdoor grow, but I have started the Papaya Sherbet photoperiod indoors as our weather is still a bit too chilly to put a newly sprouted seedling outside (nighttime temp's dipping regularly into the 40's℉). The plan is simple... let her grow inside under a 19/5 light schedule until the nighttime temperatures are in the mid 50's℉, which shouldn't be long. After which, she'll be moved outside and transplanted into the soil which I have already setup and inoculated with beneficial microbes from BioTabs and slow release dry amendments from Gaia Green. Once she's established herself outside she'll be given periodic top dressings of Gaia Green 4-4-4 and 2-8-4 along with worm castings and Compost Tea's. Her grow area is approx. 5'x5' and I have posts and a trellis net set up already for when she gets bigger to aid in training her. Let the fun begin!🤪💚 ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Weekly Updates: 10/6- Well here it is, the 8th and final week for the Papaya Sherbet Fem Photoperiod from FastBuds! 10/8- I am checking the Papaya Sherbet's trichomes every day now and they are just about perfect. I anticipate that it will be harvest time any day now, weather permitting. 10/11- After doing a final check of the trichomes on the Papaya Sherbet this afternoon and checking out our weather forecast, I decided that I will be taking her down early tomorrow morning before the sun comes up. 10/12- Today is CHOP DAY for the Papaya Sherbet Fem Photo! After checking over the flowers yesterday I decided that today is the day as I wanted to avoid any further chances of Boytris ruining more flowers. I got up early, before sunrise and took her down branch by branch which were then hung in my 'drying room' to begin the drying/curing process! This has been a interesting and educational journey for me and I hope that my experiences may help someone else in their garden... See you at the Harvest Report! 😎💚 Thank you for checking out my diary, your positive comments and support make it all worthwhile! 💚Growers Love!💚😎🙏

на этой недели растения «чистились» слили все удобрения и 2 дня растения были на дистиллированной воде , растения отдохнули и вернули их на tds 600 , а позже 800

Really great week for these girls! I'm very happy with the amount of early flower stretch I got out of the 2 larger girls. While the 'Little One' won't amount to much, the other 2 I'm really excited for the finish. I made a short video this morning to give ya'll a closer look. They got one feeding consisting of the Hydrolyzed Fish/Rose&Flowering/Molasses and then another feeding of just the Fish/Flowering this week.

First week of flower and these ladies are looking amazing

Ya mostrando sus primeras raíces, esperamos a que enraícen bien y esta vez trasplantaremos a maceta definitiva de 7 litros y daremos corta vegetación..

Started a compost tea, watered in compost tea. Continued LST to promote horizontal growth. Trying to continue to stretch these guys so all the nodes become branches and I can really pack this screen of green.

So whats new?, well recently, as of 08/23/23 got my water chiller, which is A BLESSING, honestly the constant bottle changing was driving me NUTS, not only that, i had to use my roomates fridge (in secret) and mine to keep enough water bottles to last for a day, and most of the time it was just not enough so water temps were gettin all the way up to 90, a pain in my assholes that seems to be over. great success. have seen some strange thigns going on with the water, such as EC level that keeps going up, which i think it was realetd to the plants drinking more water than nutrients and don't know if it was becasue of the temps as I'm very new to the hydro space, but will soon be paying 12 buckaroos to the youtuber that got me started in hydro, shotout to "How Weed Grow at Home - Indoor Cannabis Tutorials", So far i've been folowing his Hydro guide to the theet, so thats why I'll be subbing to his personalized patreon. Here's a small log of how water's been in the last 6 days. 17-08-23 - Ph, 5.85 - 29.2 C - 49ppm (new water, i used purified) 18-08-23 - Ph 7.10 - 30.01 C - 70 PPM (water bottles in place) 19-08-23 - Ph 6.69 - 26.9 C - 96 PPM (14 hrs after first feed) 20-08-23 - Ph 5.89(been lowering it) - 25.8 C - 125 PPM 21-08-23 - Ph 6.31 - 28 C - 127 PPM (here i noticed EC going up so started taking notes) 22-08-23 - Ph 6.36 - 28.3 C - 137 PPM - EC 274 (added more water to the reservoir) -Ph 5.9 (ph down 1 ml) - 141 PPM - 28.3 C - EC 282 AnnnnnnnnnNDDDD today is the 23 of august and levels after chiller are as follows: - Ph 6.31 - 145 PPM - 23.2 C - EC 290 + So some things that will come, the viparspectra lights and will soon lst them, also i might change the reservoir as EC seems to keep rising.

Day 14 - Everything seems to be going great, not much to say right now! Will be feeding tomorrow! Happy growing friends!✌️🏼🌱 Day 15 - Feeding day, started a nutrient comparison test between fox farm & technaflora which is why I have both of them listed but I am not mixing them! I have 2 plants on the fox farm & 1 on technaflora! We shall see which comes out better! Day 16 - Ladies are looking great!✌️🏼 Day 17 - Got watered with PH at 6.4 today, all 3 ladies are coming along nicely😍 Day 18 - 🌱✌️🏼 Day 19 - Ladies got watered again today with PH at 6.4, will probably be starting some LST in the next week sometime! Thanks for following friends & happy growing!✌️🏼🌱 Day 20 - End of week 3 & could not be happier with how things are going! Can’t wait to see some buds on these ladies!😍

At about 9 weeks into flower the buds are still getting bigger and starting to foxtail at the top of the colas. Probably because its too close to the light even with the lst clips to try to manage size. The smell is amazing too, very pungent and lingers in your nose. It has a very unique aroma that's hard to describe but it definitely smells like a sweet dessert. Im adding this week late and just harvested it at about 10 weeks. I'll post the harvest when they're dried and trimmed. I also have a timelapse of the flower stage I'll share later.

Der Samen kam aus der Erde, und damit er sich nicht streched hab ich das licht etwas herunter gelassen. Die Luftfeuchtigkeit war bei 35%, dass habe ich aber wieder im griff da ich eine Sprühflasche habe und eine Kuppel über den Setzling hatte. Bewässern brauch ich kaum da die Pflanzen wenig Wasser brauchen. Da die TS600 bei 60% Leistung nicht allzu heiß wird es ist aber auch Winter. Montag habe ich meine Spuckpalme dazu gestellt da die vielleicht etwas die Luftfeuchtigkeit reguliert ich hab keine Ahnung ob das stimmt ich wills auch nicht googlen wird schon funktionieren und wenn nicht sprühe ich sowieso regelmäßig mit einer Sprühflasche. Die Spuckpalme sah mir sowieso zu traurig am Fenster aus. Die Temperaturen waren am Wochenende im Zelt sehr hoch Sonntag Nacht hatte ich 5 Stunden lang circa 30°C-32°C. Trotzdem haben beide Pflanzen es super bestanden. Ich habe zum Umtopfen nächste woche einen 8L Topf, Mykorhiza und Wurmhumus gekauft. Dazu noch den Biobizz Indoor Dünger.

Keep calm and smoke weed😎🔥

No problems this week, plants growing extremely well. Unfortunately, I was not able to set up a drip system yet. The only training I did was to tuck the fan leaves a bit, next week I will start LST. I used a foliar spray this week in the days that I feed the plant. DAY 22 - Nutes PH - 6.04 Solution Temp - 20 PPM-1500 Watering Volume per plant - 3L DAY 25 - Water PH - 5.92 Solution Temp - 20 PPM-570 Watering Volume per plant - 4L Plant B is about 20cm Height and Plant A is about 22 cm Height.

Ottimo raccolto, bei fiori sani buoni e sopratutto forti. Sono contento di avere da parte 2 semi nuovi da coltivare!! La pianta da subito è cresciuta in altezza mantenendo lo spirito sativo

The bud's are starting to to swell up stopt feeding leafs are green enough fore the last weeks

Well, I managed to do something that I really didn't expect :) the yield is small, just like the pot :) it was a wonderful trip ;) but from now on I will only grow it in big pots :) good luck to everyone :) I will add weight when it is ready :)