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All the plants are in need of defoliation to increase the airflow and light penetration. Fed both the Fritter Delight plants as they’re looking like they needed it.
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TRIPLE G by ROYAL QUEEN SEEDS Week #10 Overall Week #9 Veg This week she's is doing good no issues it's hot outside but she's doing good dealing with the heat she's hasn't shown any signs of other stress. Stay Growing!!
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Moved them inside last week and then chopped one down. Rot was taking over quickly. Buds hadn’t fully formed underneath but the main colas and tops were ok. Bit disappointing but the weather has just been terrible where I am this autumn 😂 what can you do.
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Some browning from start but cleared up in the next week
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The ladies are packing on beautifully and we are now giving them extra strength light during 12:00 till 14:00 slot 100% and lowering the light back down to 75% from 14:00 till 17:00 and then 50% light from 17:00 till 23:00. Lets see what happens
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8/21, 8/22 TOASTED TOFFY WAS TREATED WITH PLANT DOCTOR ON THE 22nd. It's been a few days of rainy dreary weather. This morning I went over and did some MORE defoliation on the toasted toffy trying to get all infected leaves off. I then used the rest of the k bicarb on the gmo in the middle. I haven't seen hardly any pm. So that seems to be working. However I don't want septoria to spread through my garden either. Hopfully the plant doctor will take care of the problem. If not I'll get something different. I can make a diy Dr. Zymes or I could just go to the store and buy something specific like trichodermia. The weather has been a fungus nirvana. The conditions couldn't have been anymore perfect for mold development. I'm super impressed with the k bicarb treating the pm. I took tons of pictures yesterday but I've been sick and couldn't upload them. I still need to sanitize and put my supports up. I'll keep this updated with what I'm doing. UPDATE: AFTER UNCKES FUNERAL I WATERED THE SHERB PIE THAT I DIDNT LAST TIME AND THEN I FED. I DIDNT FEED THE TOASTED TOFFY DUE TO IT BEING TREATED WITH PLANT DOCTOR. EVERYTHING GOT A QRT THE 50GAL GOT MORE. TWO GALLONS TOTAL USED. I NOTÌCED SOME SLIGHT PM ON THE GMO IN THE MIDDLE. IT WOULD BE TIME TO TREAT AGAIN ANYWAY. I PLAN ON WATERING TOMORROW AND TREATING THIS PLANT AGAIN. IM HESITANT TO UsE PLANT DOCTOR (do to feeding tonight) RIGHT OFF SO ILL PROBABLY USE YHE K BICARD. IT WORKS GOOD. I SHOULDNT HAVE FED THAT PLANT SO I COULD APPLY THE PLANT DOCTOR INSTEAD. THAT SEEMS TO BE WORKING REALLY WELL. LAST TIME I USED IT WAS ON FUSARIUM AND THATS JUST A LOSING BATTLE. DID A QIICK VIDEO ILL UPLOAD TOMORROW. 8/23 I HAD A CRISIS SITUATION AND I FUCKED UP THE DIARY. I THINK I JUST DIDN'T RECORD WHAT I DID ON THIS DAY. 8/24 I checked the bags and they were heavy. I watered the sherb pie today as it missed the last watering. Everything but the toasted toffy got fed yesterday. I noticed some slight pm on the middle GMO that I've been treating with k bicarb. Just a couple leaves. Looks like a couple spots I missed. I was going to apply it again but I dodnt have time. I'll be back over soon and I'll treat it and do the defoliation needed. Maybe I'll even sanitize and get support up. Since I fed yesterday I don't want to use the plant doctor for a few more days. I'm thinking of treating everything with it. I need to read and see when the next application for toasted toffy is due. Things are really starting to flower. Once I get the work done I may add beastie bloom to my nute line up. I think I'll do another k-bicarb app on the plant with pm. It's doing a good job. Since the l bicarb I don't see any pm. I should've held off feeding it so I could've used plant doctor. I'm monitoring toasted toffy and if it keeps working good I'll treat everything preventatively. WENT BACK OVER AROUND 11:30 BECAUSE IT HAD CLIMBED INTO THE UPPER 80'S. AS I SUSPECTED THE PLANTS NEEDED WATER. THEY COULDVE WAITED UNTIL TONIGHT BUT UNFORTUNATELY I HAvE TO DO THINGS WHEN IM ABLE TOO. EVERYTHING GOT A GALLON EXCEPT THE GMO IN THE MIDDLE IN THE 30, THAT GOT 1.5. SHERB PIE GOT IT YESTERDAY AND ISNT FLOWERING AS VIGEROUS SO IT USES LESS WATER. BEFORE WATERING I WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE GARDEN AND DEFOLIATED WHAT NEEDED TO BE DEFOLIATED. I HAVE A FEW SMALL LIMBS I SHOULD PRUNE BUT THAT STUFF MAKES GOOD HASH MATERIAL AND ACTUALLY ADDS UP. I NOTICED A LITTLE BIT OF PM ON THE GMO I TREATED. Just a couple spots on a couple leaves and I removed them. I MIXED UP K BICARB AND ILL APPLY IN THE MORNING. I WANTED TO USE PLANT DOCTOR BUT SEEING THAT I FED ILL WAIT. ID LIKE TO GIVE THEM ALL PLANT DOCTOR AS A PREVENTATIVE. SUPPOSABLY IT STIMULATES AN IMMUNE RESPONSE WITHIN THE PLANT WHICH FIGHTS THE PATHOGENS THEN LEAVES POTASSIUM AND PHOSPHORUS BEHIND AFTER 4 DAYS FOR THE PLANT TO USE. I THINK ITS GETTING CLOSE TO TREATING THE TOASTED TOFFY AGAIN. ILL HAVE TO LOOK. I TOOK A VIDEO BUT ILL HAVE TO UPLOAD IT it. 8/25 I know the diary is fucked up. But I know I watered yesterday. Except the sherb pie. I didn't check the weight bit did a bunch of defoliation. I made another half gallon of k bicarb with a drop of dawn and sprayed all the gmos. I only saw a COUPLE spots with pm on them and I removed them. Still though I wanted to make sure it doesn't get out of control. I should've checked the weight of the sherb pie but I'm sure it's fine.. I took a video but I can't upload it yet. WENT BACK OVER AROUND TWO. IT WAS A BLISTERING HOT DAY IN THE 80'S. THE BAGS WERE DRY. THEY HAD A LITTLE WRIGHT TO THEM AND MOST SOME LEAVES WERE PRAYING. SOME WERE STARTING TO DROOP THOUGH. I WATERED EVERYTHING A GALLON EXCEPT THE SHERB PIE I GOT THIS MORNING. I gave the gmo in the 30 1.5. THE EVENT HORIZON IN THE MIDDLE COULDVE WAITED UNTIL MORNING BUT AT LEAST I CAN KEEP TRACK OF IT EASIER THIS. MAYBE I SHOULD GIVE THE 50 MORE WATER AT A TIME. IM GETTING YELLOW LEAVES. I THINK ITS PROBABKY SENESCENCE. ITS ABOUT THE SAME TIME EVERY YEAR I START LOSING SOME LEAVES. IT SEEMS TO BE JUST THE SHERB PIE AND THE BIG ONE IN THE 50. THAT PLANT HAS QUARTER SIZE BUDS ON IT THOUGH. ITS AMAZIBG HOW MUCH THE WATER INTAKE CHANGES WHEN ITS 60 OR UPPER 50S WITH HIGH HUMIDITY TO WHEN ITS IN THE 80S ALMOST 90. I HOPE IM NOT WATERING TO OFTEN. ITS BEEN COLD AT NIGHT. IN THE 50S. THE EVENT HORIZON HAS TURNED A NICE PURPLE ON MANY LEAVES. THE GMO'S AND SHERB PIE ALSO ARE TURNING PURPLE AND OTHER FALL COLORS. I SAW WHAT LOOKED LIKE SEPTORIA SPOTS CRAWLING UP KY EVENT HORIZON IN THE BACK. IN GOING TO TREAT IT WITH PLANT DOCTOR TOMORROW. 8/26 Rainy day. I noticed some septoria on the toasted toffy climbing a bottom branch. But it is time to reapply plant doctor. I saw a couple spots on the event horizon and I treated it today with 1/4 gallon of 2tsp per gallon plant doctor. I sprayed the leaves then I used the rest on the soil. The k bicarb is still keeping any pm at bay. I haven't seen a spot. I hope the plant doctor helps the event hotlrizon. I'm not even sure if it has it but I want to be cautious. I'm thinking of treating them all with plant doctor. I'm also going to use beastie bloom on some of the more advanced plants. I wasn't expecting it to rain but it wasn't for at least a couple hours after I sprayed. I ran another support line across the cage. I need to lst both event horizons and defoliate the sherb pie. It's weird but it seems like EVERY day I go over the flowers are bigger! I see birds darting out when I approach. Maybe that's why i haven't been finding pillars. I found ONE hairy one this week trying to escape to the soil on a string. I got him though. We'll see how it goes. If not I have other options for treatments if needed. That plant in the 10 is HUGE. I'm suprised it got that big in 10gals! Trying to upload videos but they are LONG so I don't know if they
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26.12.24: I have noticed light stress on my plants. I had moved the lights further away and increased the light intensity to 70%. Unfortunately that created some issues. Namely severe palour of the leaves. To try and rectify the situation, I've dimmed the lights to about 30%, staying at the same distance, about 30 inches away. I measured the par levels, after I did this. They should a reading of anywhere between 40 and 150, at the canopy of the plants. They are all different sizes. This seems to have improved the colouring on all plants. After this evenings watering, I will monitor recovery and increase lighting intensity again slowly. I am also using the light cycle of 21/3, so the plants have many hours more light to absorb, than for example 12/12 or 18/6. I am pleased with the progress, considering all of my mistakes! 29.12.24: So I finally gave LST a shot, it's probably a bit too late, however I really want to get the most of the triploid pheno, and I went a little crazy and LST'd all plants except 2, as they're too small. I did that late last night, this afternoon I was amazed to see the plants turn their leaves back to the light source. I'm glad I overcame my fear of trying it. I'm very excited to see them adapt and progress! 😁 there are videos above with before and after of my LST process. Thanks for checking out my diary 🍃 ✌️
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First week of 12/12 went pretty good , she’s got a fair amount of tops from some tie downs and looks green healthy and bushy . Looking to get a bit of a stretch in this week so I can tie down some more and as she does that I’ll continue to clip that bottom 1/3 off .
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Fastbuds seeds LSD-25 auto #2 Only using spring water for first week and spraying with foop mist every night. Going to be using foop nutrients with Humboldts secret cal/mag and nectar for the gods ph up and down. Here we go!
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Hello everyone 🤩 she grew fast and with a beautiful green colour on the leaves! She has responded superbly to low stress training and topping & i defoliated her aswell and seems didn't even notice 😎 For the nutrient half grow half bloom and power buds 1ml/L Spider Farme SE7000 70% Wish you all a good day and happy growing 😎
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Flushing going g very well so far.
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Start of week 5 day 29. Well not.much to say but the LIT farm sensations are at it again. Looking very impressive at this stage, if I do say so myself. 😀
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🙌 Added an extractor fan now so should be able to manage the heat a bit better. Light has been on 30-50% for 2 weeks now so could do with increasing for late flowering. Co2 bags is what I need next as they can also help the plants deal with the heat.🔥🔥🔥 Think they are doing very well! Dark leaves I noticed so may lower nutes next feed. Ran out of big bud and candy but its on the way.
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🍮 Chem Brûlée – Pheno B Week 5 | A Different Rhythm, The Same Beautiful Journey Welcome back to another chapter of the 8×8 Adventure! One of the greatest joys of running a phenotype hunt is watching two sisters grow side by side while revealing completely different personalities. Same genetics. Same environment. Same lighting schedule. Nearly identical nutrition. Yet each plant chooses her own path. Chem Brûlée Pheno B is proving exactly that. Although she shares many similarities with her sister, she’s writing a story entirely her own. ⸻ 🌱 How We Got Here For anyone joining this diary for the first time, this entire project is being grown using the 12/12 From Seed technique. Instead of providing a long vegetative period before switching the lights, the plants receive a 12 hours on / 12 hours off light cycle from the very beginning of life. This allows every phenotype to decide naturally when it’s mature enough to begin flowering. Some start earlier. Others prefer to spend a little more time building themselves before making that transition. That’s exactly what makes this project so fascinating. Nature decides. I simply provide the environment and let each plant express herself. ⸻ 🌼 Week One of Flower Although we’re now five weeks from seed, this marks what I’m considering Week One of Flower for Chem Brûlée Pheno B. The transition is now undeniable. Fresh white pistils are appearing across the growing tips, signalling that the plant has officially entered her reproductive phase. Over the coming weeks these tiny white hairs will multiply rapidly, forming the foundation for the flowers that will eventually cover the canopy. This is where the magic really begins. ⸻ 🍃 Big Leaves, Beautiful Health Just like her sister… The first thing that catches your eye is those incredible fan leaves. They’re huge. Wide. Deep green. Full of life. Healthy fan leaves are the engines powering everything that comes later, capturing light and converting it into the energy needed to build stems, roots and eventually dense, resin-covered flowers. Looking across the canopy, she’s showing exactly the kind of vigorous growth I hope to see during this stage. There is one damaged leaf visible in this week’s photographs. That one is entirely my fault. Sometimes, while working around the plants, accidents happen. Fortunately, it’s nothing more than cosmetic damage. The rest of the plant continues looking exceptionally healthy, and one damaged leaf certainly won’t slow her down. ⸻ 🌿 Gentle Training Training continues to remain intentionally simple. Rather than forcing the plant into unnatural shapes, I’m using gentle Low Stress Training, carefully bending and repositioning growth to improve light distribution throughout the canopy. Leaf tucking also remains part of the daily routine whenever needed. Small adjustments performed consistently usually produce better long-term results than aggressive training all at once. The goal isn’t to control the plant. The goal is simply to help every future flower receive as much light as possible. ⸻ 🌡️ This Week’s Environment The environment continues providing ideal conditions for this stage of development. This week’s averages included: • Day temperature: 31.1°C • Night temperature: 25°C • Relative humidity: 67% • Nutrient solution: 24.2°C • Root zone: 21°C • CO₂: 639 ppm Humidity remains intentionally a little higher while the plants are still stretching and producing fresh vegetative growth. As flowering progresses and buds begin to stack, humidity will gradually be reduced to provide the ideal conditions for healthy flower development. Watching the room evolve each week has been incredibly satisfying. Every update feels like another step closer to seeing this full canopy covered in flowers. ⸻ 📸 This Week’s Photos This week’s update includes a variety of different perspectives, including bird’s-eye views, side profiles, detailed close-ups, and room shots documenting her progress from every angle. I always enjoy photographing plants this way because every perspective tells a slightly different story. From above, you can appreciate the canopy. From the side, you can see the structure. Close-ups reveal the first pistils beginning to emerge. Together, they create a complete snapshot of this stage in her journey. ⸻ 🔮 Looking Ahead Over the coming week I expect Chem Brûlée Pheno B to continue stretching while producing many more flowering sites throughout the canopy. The number of white pistils should increase significantly as flower formation accelerates, and the plant will begin directing more energy toward building future bud sites. Training will remain gentle and minimal, allowing her natural structure to develop while simply improving light penetration where necessary. She’s progressing at her own pace… And that’s exactly what makes following each phenotype so rewarding. ⸻ 💚 Thank You Thank you so much for following another chapter of this 8×8 Adventure. Whether you’ve been here since germination or you’ve just joined this journey, I truly appreciate every visit, every comment, every bit of advice, and every conversation we share. A special thank you to: 💚 GrowDiaries for providing an incredible platform where growers from around the world can document, learn, and inspire one another. Zamnesia for the amazing genetics behind this phenotype hunt. 🌱 Plagron for supplying the nutrients supporting every stage of this grow. 💡 Future of Grow LED for delivering the light that fuels every day of healthy development. 🌿 TrolMaster for helping maintain a stable environment around the clock. And finally, thank you for taking the time to follow along. Every diary update is another page in this story, and I’m grateful to have so many people sharing the journey with me. I’ll see you all next week, where Chem Brûlée Pheno B will continue finding her own rhythm, one beautiful flower at a time. Until then… Growers Love and happy growing, everyone. 🌱🍮💚
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*** Encontrarás la traducción a Español al final de la traducción en inglés *** ----- MEDIUM & EQUIPMENT ----- Luminary: HLG 100 v2 3000 k Tent: DR60 - 0.6 x 0.6 m Intractor/Extractor: None Vent: 10W Static Pots: 3 galon textile Nutrients: B.A.C., Advanced nutrients & Atami Soil: BioBizz ----- GROWING DATES ----- Seeds planted on Soil - May the 4th (be with you), I am them father Harvest - June 21th Complete Cycle from Seed - 76 Days Light Hours complete cycle - 19 Hrs ----- NUTRIENTS USED ----- Bases & Stimulators: B.A.C. Additives: Advanced Nutrients Others: ATAMI Bloombastic Cleaning: One Week with Advanced Nutrients “Flawless Finish” ----- GROWING ----- @Techniques, there were 2 plants: A taller one that growed it’s own, she was 1.07 m tall, you can see in the videos how she looks like, itˋs an Auto Beast. A smaller one on where i applied 2 techniques, a double topping (Topping x3), and a bit defoliation as can be shown in the video, she ended up with 0.5 m tall, 4 main colas, and the most dense buds i had among my autos. @Weight: The weight dried was surprisingly equal in both plants, while the bigger plant ended up in 67 gr, the small one was 62 gr and with much more bud density and crystal concentration, anyway both plants were very dense and crystal poblated. On wet, the weights were 276 g vs 226 g the smaller, what is translated wet2dry in a 24,28% vs 27,43% for the smaller one FTW!. That difference is very well appreciated in the density of the smaller plant buds, while both are very dense/compact/strong, the smaller plant buds are really MoonRocks. @Trim: Well well well, this part was awesome, very very very little amount of trim material, i finish the trimming of the bigger plant in about 6 min and 15 for the smaller what is real awesome in both cases, and the quality of the trims was incredible too, very good to ice wash it. @ Final product: The final product is almost equal in both plants, the smallest one acquired a stronger taste and concentration of crystals than the taller one, while both tastes are strong grapefruit, when you smoke buds from the small one is like real eating a grapefruit and it leaves a residual taste to orange some seconds after exhaling it, and when you touch or tear up any of both plants, the smell is also very strong to Grapefruit. My friends were shocked by the strong taste and smell to grapefruit it has, really. Good Job Spliff Seeds!, awesome strain!, I will grow it again for sure. 💪👌👌 ***** ESPAÑOL ***** ----- GENÉTICA DUTCH AUTO (Spliff Seeds NL) ----- Dutch Auto es una genética increíble en todos los aspectos, desde la facilidad de cultivarla hasta el producto final, pasando por la resistencia, la salubridad, el tamaño de la planta y la sencillez del pelado, son todo aspectos increíbles y notables de la planta. Sin podas, toppings ni cortes masivos, la planta ha alcanzado 1,07 m con una cola principal de más de 35 cm y una producción final de 67 gr de un producto espectacular, con un sabor de esos que se te quedan grabados y por el cual pasas a reconocerla de inmediato (lo que ocurría antiguamente (1998) con la Skunk). Los cogollos son compactos, gordos, duros, pegadizos y muy olorosos. El aroma y sabor del producto final es muy cítrico, es muy reconocible el sabor fuerte a pomelo, y en el caso de la planta pequeña deja un suave sabor a naranja en boca después de exhalarlo. ----- MEDIOS Y EQUIPO ----- Luminaria: HLG 100 v2 3000 k Tienda de cultivo: DR60 - 0.6 x 0.6 m Intractor/Extractor: Ninguno Ventilador: 10W Static Tiestos: Textiles de 3 galones Nutrientes: B.A.C., Advanced nutrients & Atami Sustrato: BioBizz ----- TIEMPOS DEL CULTIVO ----- Semilla a tierra - 4 de Mayo Cosecha - 21 de Junio Ciclo completo desde semilla - 76 Días Horas de luz - 19 Hrs ciclo completo ----- NUTRIENTES USADOS ----- Bases y Estimuladores: B.A.C. Aditivos: Advanced Nutrients Otros: ATAMI Bloombastic Limpieza: Una semana con “Flawless Finish” ----- CULTIVO ----- @Técnicas, son 2 plantas: Una alta que ha crecido sin técnicas aplicadas, ha alcanzado 1,07 m de alto, en los vídeos se puede ver cómo es una Auto brutal. Una pequeña a la que le he aplicado 2 técnicas, un topping doble (3 cortes) y una ligera defoliación que se puede ver en el vídeo. Esta planta ha acabado midiendo 0,5 m, teniendo 4 colas principales y los cogollos más densos que me haya dado ninguna auto. @Peso: El peso en seco es sorprendentemente parecido en ambas plantas, mientras que la planta grande ha terminado pesando 67 gr, la pequeña ha acabado en 62 gr y con cogollos más densos y poblados de cristales que la grande, aun así, ambas plantas han dado cogollos compactos y muy poblados. En húmedo los pesos fueron 276 gr Vs 226 gr la pequeña, lo que es una diferencia de húmedo a seco de 24,28% Vs 27,43% la pequeña. Esta diferencia es bien notable en la densidad de los cogollos de la planta pequeña que son como rocas lunares. @Pelado: Bueno bueno bueno, esta parte ha sido increíble, muy muy poca cantidad de restos de corte, acabé el pelado de la grande en unos 6 minutos y unos 15 para la pequeña lo que es increíble en ambos casos. Me he quedado sorprendido por la poca cantidad de material a pelar y la calidad de la misma, excelente para hacer bubble hash. @ Producto final: El producto final es casi igual en ambas plantas, la pequeña ha adquirido un sabor más fuerte y una concentración de cristales superior a la planta grande, mientras que ambas saben fuertemente a pomelo, cuando fumas de la pequeña, es como estar metiéndote un pomelo en la boca además de que deja un ligero sabor a naranja después de exhalarla. A la hora de tocarla o desmenuzar cualquiera de ellas el resultado es igualmente un fuerte aroma a pomelo. Mis amigos fumadores se quedaron realmente impresionados del fuerte sabor cítrico a pomelo que tiene, en serio, es increíble. Muy buen trabajo Spliff Seeds, Dutch Auto es una genética increíble, la volveré a plantar seguro!!! 💪👌👌
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Hello everyone. I hope all is well and good growing for everyone! I gave my last feeding on week 7. I have only been giving Poland spring water now without nutrients. please someone let me know if I have white powdery mildew or im doing a good job stressing 😞. Thanks 🙏
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End of week 4/Day 34 plant is still really small but its flowering :) has a nice smell between a green veg plant and a cheese strain :) and im really excited to try the buds from this one, cant wait to be relaxed haha. im going to make sure the plants are 60cm away from the light for flowering as they are all in the flowering stage now :) im going to be giving more canna B in flowering for P and K instead of N. check out my Quick One and Royal Dwarf diaries :) i guess its just a waiting game now. it was a nice learning experience this time round but i was very unsure about everything. i have to give myself some applause tho as ive reached flowering :) next grow im doing a diesel auto, gg auto and maybe a sweet Zz (grapefruit x grape ape) as my first photoperiod :) we'll see how things go. please leave any advice or comments :) thank you for following my diaries! I picked up some iceberg lettuce seeds too so keep an eye out for those! :D Day 35 - 29/10/19 haloween is almost here and i cant wait to get me some 🎃. Flushed the fast eddy plant and it had 1160 ppm with a ph of 6.08. im assuming ppm of 800-1160 is hurting my plant, full of salts too. mixing up feed now to give to her. i should have had it sitting ready but i mixed up the bottles so i had to start over 😂. the smell off this plant isnt like the other generic weed strains, its got a real powerful potent cheese smell coming from it, and its very compact and tight, i think i actually got 2 buds merging into one hahaha. the sugar leaves look amazing too :) need to pick up a jewelers loupe or something of the sort to start watching the pistils and trichomes :) other than that im gonna start feeding her 4ml Canna A, 4ml Canna B, 3ml Rhizotonic, 3ml Cannazym. i did the flush yesterday with quick one and growth is just exploding again, its crazy how noob proof these plants are, still i think id prefer to have more control with photoperiods. Day 37 - 31/10/19 Plant enjoyed the flush! its very hard to see the flowering growth as it is very close together surrounded by healthy leaves. Has a lovely cheese smell, compared to a full cheese strain im getting hints of what could be the juanita la lagrimosa :) from the way this is developing and forming buds im not even worried about the size anymore. its looking likely to be good quality smoke :) Basically no flowering stretch so less yeild i think :) im a happy grower so thats all that matters haha. until next week folks! and HAPPY HALLOWEEN TO ALL!!!!
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Transplant after week 1so far so go..jus a lil a bat guano no major feeding yet