Sky steht jetzt da wie jemand, der gerade einen radikalen Frühjahrsputz hinter sich hat: weniger Arme, dafür deutlich mehr Ausstrahlung. Man sieht sofort: Hier mussten Triebe gehen. Viele sogar. Platzmangel, Luftzirkulation, Vernunft – die klassische Grower-Entscheidung zwischen Herz und Schere. Ergebnis: ein deutlich aufgeräumtes Gerüst mit Fokus auf die Top-Triebe, die jetzt alle schön im Licht stehen wie VIPs auf der Gästeliste. Und die Buds? Die haben in Woche 4 endgültig beschlossen, keine Theorie mehr zu sein. Die Colas strecken sich nach oben, dicht besetzt mit weißen Stempeln, die mittlerweile nicht mehr „Hallo“ sagen, sondern „Bleib noch ein paar Wochen“. Die Buds sind klar länger geworden, beginnen sich übereinander zu stapeln und wirken jetzt richtig säulenartig. Keine Kugeln mehr – das sind jetzt ernstzunehmende Blütenstände. Harzproduktion ist sichtbar angezogen: ein feiner, gleichmäßiger Frost legt sich über die Zuckerblätter. Noch kein Zuckerschock, aber eindeutig der Moment, in dem man nach dem Anfassen der Pflanze unauffällig an den Fingern riecht. Die unteren Bereiche sind deutlich luftiger – man merkt, dass die Energie jetzt konsequent nach oben geht. Genau so, wie man es in Woche 4 sehen will: weniger Drama unten, mehr Geschäft oben.

Es ist soweit! Am Freitag habe ich die fünf Easy Buds nach knapp 11 1/2 Wochen abgeschnitten und geerntet. Leider musste ich feststellen, dass eine Pflanze ziemlich stark befallen war. Ich vermute eine Milbenart oder möglicherweise Fliegeneier. Unterhalb der Blätter waren etliche dunkelgelbe und dunkelbraune Eier, die man auf den ersten Blick kaum erkennen konnte. Bei genauerem Hinsehen sieht man jedoch, dass sich der Befall auf die ganze Pflanze ausgeweitet hatte. Glücklicherweise blieben die vier anderen Pflanzen verschont. Aus diesem Grund trockne ich die Pflanzen auch getrennt voneinander. Die befallene Pflanze wollte ich nicht direkt wegwerfen, sondern erstmal trocknen lassen. Im Nachhinein werde ich schauen, wie ich mögliche Schadensbegrenzung betreiben kann. Die vier gesunden Pflanzen werden in einem geschlossenen Zelt in einem Trocknungsbeutel getrocknet. Die befallene Pflanze habe ich in dem Folienzelt aufgehängt und mit einer Plane abgedeckt. Nach wenigen Tagen der Trocknung sieht soweit eigentlich alles gut aus. Die Eier scheinen nicht mehr zu schlüpfen, sondern fallen von der Blüte ab oder verschrumpeln zu Kompost. Ich hoffe, dass es dabei bleibt. Der Geruch hat sich nach dem Abschneiden deutlich verändert. Schon nach der kurzen Trocknungszeit kann ich einen intensiveren Geruch feststellen, der sich noch nicht so richtig beschreiben lässt. Die Blüten waren stark mit den sogenannten "Sugar Leaves" verwachsen, weshalb ich sie grob getrimmt habe, um sie zum Trocknen aufzuhängen. Nachdem die Blüten vollständig getrocknet sind, werde ich die Buds noch einmal einzeln trimmen und durch meine Trimm-Maschine von Vevor jagen. Der Ernteprozess hat zu zweit circa eine Stunde gedauert. Die Pflanzen waren zum Zeitpunkt der Ernte noch sehr gesund und kräftig. Die Verwurzelung war trotz des geschlossenen Topfes sehr gut. Die schönste Bud hat definitiv die zentrale Pflanze, Greta, ergeben. Nass hätte ich den Bud auf mindestens 12 g geschätzt. Ein Gesamtgewicht des nassen Pflanzenmaterials habe ich nicht ermittelt. Sobald alles trocken und fertig beschnitten ist, werde ich das Tagebuch um den trockenen Betrag ergänzen. Stand jetzt würde ich schätzen, dass der Ertrag aller Pflanzen bei circa 40-50 g liegt, was mich für meinen ersten Grow ziemlich zufrieden stellt, besonders in Anbetracht dieser wirklich sehr simplen Strain. Mehr Infos und Fotos folgen in Kürze, wenn das Curing beginnt. Bis bald! :)

La White Runtz ha raggiunto quasi 80 cm di altezza dando precedenza al gambo principale e meno ai rami laterali, nessuna dei semi di Anesia è stato sottoposto ad allenamento 🏋️‍♂️ e finiranno il ciclo così, entrano nella terza settimana di fioritura, ho aumentato a 3ml al litro di Canna Terra Flores salendo a 1650 circa e cercherò di diminuire azoto dalla prossima volta…ci vediamo nei prossimi aggiornamenti 😎🤞✨💚🌱

Greeeeeat week! Dynomyco has truly helped this Girly to get off to an amazing start and gave her the force to gain thick stems and more branches! It could also be the addition of Co2 in the grow area! I also give her a diluted foliar feed of formulex as she goes through the day as I have a very low humidity for that week but I can bring it up now as I don’t need it so low in my home! (Was drying other plants)

Last Veg week, now Flowering!!

Week 5 purple showing , 2 slight differences in the structures on each plant . Had both these phenotypes before

Frostbanger Plants 1-6 Week 9 May 18– 24 FLOWER 5 Nutrients : 3 gal GH Micro 20 ml GH Gro 10 ml GH Bloom 30ml CalMag 15 ml Recharge 10ml Green sensation 15ml Power buds 7.5 ml 5/18 PH 6.67, PPM 935, temp 68.5 1 ltr each 5/20 PH 6.67, PPM 1330, temp 68.5 2ltr each 5/23 PH 6.6, PPM 1570, temp 68.5 2ltr each 5/24 pics & vid Since all 6 gals are getting frosty, I did some trichome pics. The statistics on Frostbanger indicate 50-day flower. Pics show mostly clear and milky. There are a few with amber trichs and many orange pistils indicating maturation. At least 3 more weeks for maturity on these gals. I continue manual control of the environment and using 3 circulating fans and the 4” exhaust vent from my 3x3. I have the AC pushing air in and the exhaust pulling air out. This creates a neutral pressure tent environment-neither positive nor negative. It looks like growth has stopped and plant height has been reached. Now is the time for buds to fatten and frost up. All 6 of them are short remaining less than 3 ft. They range from 15 to 31 inches. #4, 5 &6 are showing some fade, particularly #4. Upon opening the tent, a melon smell comes off the buds if I get close, and more stickiness was observed during the process of defoliation. They are living up to the new strain’s name. #5 is the frostiest followed by #2. Wow week 3 of flower and that much frost already. Before FastBuds announced the strain name and characteristics, I was disappointed that FBA2502 could be an indica sleepy strain but the universe provides what you need at the time. The new strain profile indicates a whopping 29%THC with mainly sativa uplifting, euphoric, social effects with sweet fruity flavors which I love and enjoy. In addition, I recently bought a dap press and this strain is frosty and resinous. She will be great to press for live rosin. FBA2502 is FROSTBANGER. Meet Frostbanger Auto, an autoflowering and Indica-leaning hybrid packing a staggeringly high THC content averaging 29%, making this one of the most potent strains on the market. It was created by Fast Buds through crossbreeding Gorilla Glue and Chemdawg, two equally iconic strains. Growers must know that these difficult-to-grow plants will pose specific challenges in terms of environmental control and nutrition, making them best suited for cultivators with some experience under their belt. The flowering cycle is short, averaging only 50 days, and yields are usually around 300g/m². The Frostbanger Auto flavor and aroma are both mouthwatering with a delightful combination of sweet, fruity, and flowery notes. The high is mainly Sativa-driven with uplifting and happiness-inducing effects that lead to euphoria and a general sense of well-being. You might feel sociable and talkative, but too spacey to say something. Following this surge of energy comes a deepening sense of relaxation, leaving you sedated and completely at ease with the world. Due to its potency and these long-lasting effects, medical patients hail Frostbanger Auto for treating chronic pain, stress, and even depression. Measurements: #1 15” #2 20” #3 17” #4 30” #5 31” #6 24” P.S I added a no churn ice cream recipe in week 4 of Natronas recipes. It is easy 3 ingredients. I bought Mango puree instead of fresh and reduced that to reduce water content. Try it. 😋 Your likes and comments are appreciated. Thanks for stopping by. Growers love 💚🌿 💫Natrona💫

Bud is unbelievable its everywhere. Strong smell for sure and ultra sticky. Frost is really coming out. Cut off the enzymes komplete I read in flower it can stress the plant. 45 days from the flip Always 5.8 ph 600 ppm A little h202 Plant goes through about 18.9 liter jug every 2 days. I feed it RO water. Try to change and scrub the rez every 2 weeks.

Amazing buds from this amnesia pro, stinky dank nuggets with clasic amnesia fragrance, very enjoyable, very sticky flower that are starting to compact, very happy about this plant, let's see how she keeps developing! 🔝💚❤️💛

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***Sponsored Grow*** = Medic || https://medicgrow.com || Grow = ***Sponsored Grow*** Plants still looking good from last week, the yellowing has seemed to stop spreading, still some dull green in some leaves, I think I was under feeding them, but runoff says otherwise. Noticed some more pink/purple stems on the plants and decided to increase the phosphorus content in the feed by mixing in half grow and half bloom from the nutrient lineup. I'd use the PK booster I have but its to high in K for my liking. The entire lineup is very high in K. mixing grow and bloom gives a NPK ratio of 7-7-14 then done 1:1 equal parts. Grow=8-4-15 Bloom=6-10-14 Boost=1-15-30 Run off was a bit high for my liking but only seeing minimal signs of nutrient burn. Still watering once with feed and runoff and then later in the week with water and no/little runoff for my watering cycle.The number in the nutrient section are wrong but the EC and ratio are correct. Also impressed the roots have started popping out the bottom of the container already after only being transplanted for a week. Good root growth on these ones. Lights doing well. The V1 spectrum is good on the medic grow mini sun-2's 240w. No issues so far, dimmed at 80% . Till next week. ***Sponsored Grow*** Official Website: https://medicgrow.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/medicgrowled Twitter: https://twitter.com/medicgrow Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/medicgrow420/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNmiY4F9z94u-8eGj7R1CSQ Growdiaries: https://growdiaries.com/grower/medicgrowled https://growdiaries.com/grow-lights/medic-grow

Última semana de mis plantitas Hoy corto 12 de 16 Fue un cultivo sin problemas. Y creo que viene buena producción Recomiendo 100% los fertilizantes hesi buenísimos. 5 cultivos con ellos y 0 problemas. El sustrato Biobizz light mix excelente Las semillas de barneys farm uff pura crema. Eva seeds recomendables y las sweed seeds buenisimas semillas para seguir cultivando. Los Led yxo para ser de un perfil bajo qué no a toda la gente les gusta cumplen la. Función 480w de pura potencia en un espacio de 120x120 los recomiendo para gente que tenga un presupuesto bajo. Ahora voy por unos sobre 600w aunque los reforzaría estos con unos led de 100w . Bueno feliz con los resultados. Esta semana mostraré los resultados de las plantas cortadas. Se vienen más cultivos Salu2

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Praying my girls are not all in different stages of dying 😭More to follow... 1/9/21 These girls were finally dry enough to water I weighed each post before and after watering. I am going to try weighing the pots and water when the weight is about half as dry.as I normally do. So Maybe I should water @ 3lbs heavier... somewhere between 8-9lbs 1/10 I changed the light cycle so that my "night time" is in the middle of the day for heating reason, so this morning when I woke up, after being under the lights for 18 hours I actually had growth on two plants. Gorilla Glue and my photo plant Chocoloope that is growing with the autos. They were both under the VIPARSPECTRA 2020 Pro Series P1000 LED Grow Light. The other two plants were under BLOOMSPECT Double Chips Series 1500W LED Grow Light Full Spectrum. I wish I hadn't made so many mistakes with this grow because I know there is no way to know if it is the light that made them grow better than the other two or they were just a little healthier. I don't think so because Gorilla Glue is the worst plant and she actually grew but who knows. Anyways I switched the plants around so they are under the opposite light when their day time starts and we will just have to see. PE Length 8' Height 7' Width 8.5" Dry weight 6lb 4oz Wet weight 13lb 11oz GG Length 8" Height 7" Width 8.5" Dry weight 5lb 14 oz- Wet weight 11lb NB Length 11" Height 10 " Width 10.5" Dry weight 6lb 9 oz Wet weight 12lb Choco Length " Height Width " Dry weight Wet weight 1/11/21 DAY 46S HELP if ANYONE SEES THIS .... last night I decided not to switch the plants around after all, but I did rearrange the tent because I had a plug running through door and I am still struggling to regulate the humidity and temp. I thought I still had good air circulation but apparently I did not and the plants are not happy. Gorilla Glue is not going to make it. She turned real dark green after watering her on Saturday, she had a small amount of growth Sunday but now all the leaves are laying down. I don't know if I should use Sledge hammer but after flushing a week ago letting her dry for a week and then watering Saturday I don't know if I flushed her with sledge hammer if that would finish her off or perk her back up. I weighed her and she was 4 pounds lighter than when I watered her on Saturday and still 2+ pounds lighter than when she is the driest. Some background on how I tried to kill my plants... 😭 I started this grow by watching a zillion videos with my key take away being 1-don't over water 2- don't transplant autos 3- don't feed full strength. I took it seriously, so my tiny little sprouts were put into 3 gallon pots of Fox Farm happy frog potting soil. (didn't realize this already had enough nutrients to last several weeks so I started nutrients in the 2nd week of Veg) I use Fox farm nutrients and follow their soil feeding schedule. I bought the Dirty Dozen starter kits and it did not have 2 products in that the feeding schedule but since they were not in the kit I assumed they must not be too important. They were.... Wholly Mackerel & Marine Cuisine fertilizer. I used a turkey baster to slowly drip a couple ounces of water around each plant I water just like in this picture. https://prnt.sc/wjq0gi for over a month. I didn't realize by watering like this for a month that I was making the nutrients build up just below the the root line each watering. I waited to water till the plants were very dry. Now looking back Way way to dry before watering. I am sure that is why they were not growing. I was only giving them enough to stay alive not thrive. So a little more back info Day 14 I watered the plants with plan water Day 23 after not having to water the plants for 9 days I watered them, 1/4 gallon each with week 2 schedule, with the addition of calmag+(2-0-0) @ 50% strength Day 27 they were light and needed to be watered and they had grown a little. so I gave them nutrients same as above Day 30 The plants were not quit as dry as usual but I was beginning to think I was underwatering them so I gave them 1/2 gallon of THIS IS WERE IT ALL GOES WRONG...(Actually after reviewing my grow journal just now my problems started Day 1 and was showing signs I just didn't know it and I still am not sure how to fix any of it Almost makes me think I should scrap it all and start over. These poor plants will be lucky to produce anything) Someone could seriously use my grow journal as a "everything not to do" guide. Day 35 since the plants were finally big enough to soak the pots fully. I also decided since they had used 1/2 gallon water in 3 days and they grew a ton I upped the nutrients to full strength and the calmag plus as well. This was the first time I had any runoff sadly I let the plants sit in the runoff and reabsorbed all the runoff. Day 38 Flushed each plant with with 5 gallons of tap water that had a PH of 6.4 & water temp was 62 degrees. My run off started at 4300ppm with a ph of 6.2. The PH was consistent in every plants runoff and all of them had off the chart PPMs. I brought NB down to 250ppm. Gorilla Glue and Pineapple express I brought the runoff down to 450. For some reason I decided that since my plants were probably in shock from no water and nutrients to more water and a whole lot of nutrients and I figured flushing them would reset the soil and I reasoned they would need food after not getting any from being in shock so I gave them each a half strength nutrients. I waited a full week then posted this question. Day 45 I have each plant plain water and checked the run off. The Gorilla Glue had a run off of 584ppm with a ph of 6.47 , The northern lights X had 750ppm and 6.38ph pineapple express had 1170ppm runoff so I ran a less less than an extra half gallon of water and that brought the ppm down to 706. PH was 6.3. I have a photo period that I didn't add to this dairy but has been with these plants and it is starting to show the same signs as the others they are just all in different phases of whatever I did to almost kill them. I started the next week on Friday so I will be adding pictures and a couple videos I took from today in my grow dairy tonight. I don't know what to do next.

Starting week 14 Feeding the lady her last meal @1900ppm bloom nutes Day 94 ( Day 3 from. Week 14) Day 95 and Day 96 Very well, almost ready to flush again Day 97 Growing fat and smelling so good Full of Trichomes and resin Day 98 End of week 14

Was a good week, no issues just good ol' bud growth. Sitting back and watching the buds grow is by far my favorite past time hahaha. On Day 31F/94S gave the girls their top dressing of Power Bloom while watering at lights on. Day 33 pulled maybe 6-8 fan leaves off #2 and #3, was getting a bit thick where they meet and good bud sites were being covered. So ya was a pretty smooth week, watering 16L (4L each) every 3 days and they're still happy. Came home from work mid week and went down to basement was slapped by a strong weed smell, guess it was time to replace the carbon filter, oops! Reversed the flanges on it and it helped a lot but still smelling. This filter has got a hard 8 months of use in, might still be fine for when plants not SO smelly but not in last third of flower. Fan is running harder now too, max 8 of 10 when lights out day after watering. Glad everything is automated, so much easier than first indoor grow with manual controls. Hope this week goes well 🤞

10/14-10/20 10/14: After lowering the temperature in the tent about 5 degrees, the leaf tip burn has stopped. This is the second time I believe I have successfully controlled the Grow Dots release rate with temperature adjustments (maybe--more experiments are needed, but it sure seems like it gives you a great amount of flexibility). The tent is crowded, but the temp/RH/VPD have been perfect (see image). Branches seem too spindly. I'm worried that the buds aren't going to fatten up enough. We'll see. Lots of time left. Still hand watering (1/2gal per day per plant) 10/16: The lower fan leaves on one plant are yellowing a lot (the left side, or "bigger" plant with the larger light). They also happen to be below the largest buds. The largest buds also happen to be closest to the light. After reading around a bit, here's what I think happened: The parts of the plant closest to the light were getting too much light, which caused the fan leaves to yellow and start to die. The DLI was close to 60 for those parts of the plant, which is WAY too high. I turned it down, and now it's around 45 for the big buds, and 35-40 for the remainder of the plant. I wish there was a way to move the larger buds further away from the light, but there's not because of space limitations. I still have some concern about the size of the buds. I think I'm going to end up with a whole bunch of apricot-sized buds and no big kahunas. It doesn't seem like it will be the yield I hoped for, and I am no sure why. A common comment in the Glookies diaries I've seen is that the yield was below expectation. Lots of time left--maybe they'll fatten up a lot. 10/16 (again): I had a little extra time today so I built a DIY CO2 generator. See video. There's some chance it will overflow and/or explode and spray yeast and sugar all over the place. I plan to watch carefully. The pump and heat mat are on a timer so that they're only going when the lights are on. 10/20: Last day of this week. I turned down the light and the leaves stopped yellowing. So, problem solved. The plants look as good as any other Glookies diary I see on here for this far along. I am using every available inch of this tent. I've been as careful as I can about keeping things spaced for airflow. Daytime temps: 78F; nighttime: 67F. Humidity staying steady at 55. I didn't water yesterday because the bags felt too wet on the bottom. The pot bases are bone dry today, so I should be good to water again tomorrow. I hit them with Recharge day before yesterday.

MW6Bar Controller Level 8(520w) UVA Bars 365-370nm (54w) 10min on 50min off and 10min at the beginning of the night. IR 730nm (26w) 10min at start of night. Front Left Koosh The Magic Dragon #4 Front Right Tricho Jordan #5 Back Left Tricho Jordan #5 PPFD 1025-1275 6.5 pH Feed EC Tricho 1EC (Fade formula) Taper down to 0 by day 60 KMD 3 Switching to fade around D59 Sub EC 0-3 TJ 5-5.5 KMD Dryback Target: 60-70%