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7/28 1220AM MONDAY.... Bubbles are looking ok, I need to trim them back to 4 colas, I am really stressing them with small space limitations, and temps at 80 to 81 7/29 Tuesday 5:45 AM💦💦 6:15 AM water with methylene blue two pills of nitric boost amino acid, five drops of Quick Sorb and I added bud factor X today and a quarter mL per liter of rhino silica💦💦💦. 1030 AM I don’t know what I’m gonna do. It turns out the bubbles plants are terrible. The stems are all very weak and they’re growing bushy at the top. I didn’t get them separated so all of the side branches grew up really long it’s completely useless. It is absolute this plant. It will be thrown in the garbage. Can you fucking believe I have to throw another entire plant in the fucking garbage😡😡😡😡. TREVOR plant cut down to 2 colas only, very top heavy not liking my grow space, had 2 more than I wanted so it's all fucked.... will remove shitty small colas and get maybe 2 good colas per plant, not expecting much. 1219pm....HOLY SHIT I FUCKED THESE.....TOOK OFF SOME COLAS.....NOT ENOUGH SPACE AND I PUSHED THEM TOO FAR.....I CAN FIX IT 7/30 1215am found a GREAT science link::: ""https://www.frontiersin.org/research-topics/8125/cannabis-genomics-breeding-and-production/magazine"". 345am PROLINE WILL BE HERE TODAY.ALL RESEARCH INDICATES PROLINE WILL PROTECT FROM HEAT STRESS!!!! 11:30 AM they are good again they are recovering from heavy defoliation half of the plant was taken off of one of them. I pushed it a little far but today they are recovering from heat and lack of air and lack of space the leaves are reaching up and they are not folding under heat stress. They look good today. Fast recovery heavy amino yesterday.👍👍👍👍🚨🚨🚨🚨 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨 GOT THE AMINOS AND HERE IS THE GROK RESULT OF MY MIX.......🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨 The effects of applying essential amino acids (EAAs), proline, trimethylglycine (TMG), and glutamine to cannabis plants can be significant, as these compounds act as biostimulants, influencing growth, stress resilience, and secondary metabolite production. The available research, primarily from studies on amino acids in plants, including cannabis, provides insights into their roles, though specific data on this exact combination is limited. Below, I summarize the effects of each compound on cannabis plants, drawing from relevant studies, and infer potential synergistic effects based on their known roles in plant physiology. Note that TMG (betaine) has less direct research in cannabis, so some effects are extrapolated from other plants. ### 1. Essential Amino Acids (EAAs) EAAs (e.g., leucine, lysine, methionine, etc.) are critical building blocks for proteins and play roles in plant metabolism and stress response. In cannabis: - **Growth and Development**: EAAs enhance protein synthesis, supporting shoot and root growth. Foliar or soil application of EAAs (e.g., 150–300 mg/L) increases leaf chlorophyll, shoot biomass, and root development in various plants, likely applicable to cannabis.[](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-21273-6) - **Nutrient Uptake**: EAAs like methionine and lysine improve nutrient absorption (e.g., nitrogen, iron) by acting as chelators, potentially enhancing cannabis nutrient efficiency in hydroponic or soil systems.[](https://cannabisindustryinstitute.com/news/amino-acids-what-they-mean-to-your-cannabis-grow/)[](https://mycsainc.com/newsletter/en/2023/03/03/amino-acids-and-their-function-in-plants/) - **Stress Mitigation**: EAAs, particularly methionine, support antioxidant production (e.g., glutathione), reducing oxidative stress from drought, salinity, or high light, common in cannabis cultivation.[](https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/plant-science/articles/10.3389/fpls.2020.00928/full)[](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9008891/) - **Cannabinoid/Terpene Production**: Limited evidence suggests EAAs may influence secondary metabolism. For example, methionine could enhance sulfur-containing compounds, potentially affecting terpene profiles in cannabis.[](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9008891/) **Application Notes**: EAAs are often applied via foliar spray (150–300 mg/L) or soil drench. Overuse may lead to nitrogen imbalance, so moderation is key.[](https://cannabisindustryinstitute.com/news/amino-acids-what-they-mean-to-your-cannabis-grow/) ### 2. Proline Proline is a non-essential amino acid that accumulates in plants under stress and serves multiple functions: - **Stress Tolerance**: Proline acts as an osmolyte, stabilizing cell membranes and scavenging reactive oxygen species (ROS) during drought, salinity, or temperature stress. In cannabis, exogenous proline (e.g., 50–100 mM) may enhance tolerance to environmental stressors, improving resilience in outdoor or controlled environments.[](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/349966775_THE_ROLE_AND_IMPORTANCE_OF_AMINO_ACIDS_WITHIN_PLANTS_A_REVIEW)[](https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3548871/) - **Limited Growth Effect**: Proline alone is a poor nitrogen source for growth. Studies on Arabidopsis show it has a neutral or inhibitory effect on growth when used as the sole nitrogen source, suggesting it’s better for stress response than biomass accumulation.[](https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/plant-science/articles/10.3389/fpls.2023.1281495/full) - **Cannabis-Specific**: Proline helps cannabis maintain water balance, potentially improving resistance to extreme temperatures, which is critical for outdoor grows.[](https://cannabisindustryinstitute.com/news/amino-acids-what-they-mean-to-your-cannabis-grow/) **Application Notes**: Foliar or root application (50–100 mg/L) is effective for stress mitigation. High doses may inhibit growth if not balanced with other nutrients.[](https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/plant-science/articles/10.3389/fpls.2023.1281495/full)[](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/349966775_THE_ROLE_AND_IMPORTANCE_OF_AMINO_ACIDS_WITHIN_PLANTS_A_REVIEW) ### 3. Trimethylglycine (TMG, Betaine) TMG is less studied in cannabis but known as an osmoprotectant and methyl donor in other plants: - **Stress Protection**: TMG stabilizes proteins and membranes under salinity, drought, or temperature stress, similar to proline. It may protect cannabis plants in harsh conditions, maintaining photosynthetic efficiency.[](https://www.mdpi.com/2311-7524/9/7/807) - **Methylation Support**: TMG donates methyl groups, potentially enhancing secondary metabolite synthesis (e.g., cannabinoids, terpenes), though direct evidence in cannabis is lacking. Its role in methylation could support metabolic pathways linked to EAAs and glutamine. - **Growth Effects**: Limited data suggest TMG may improve chlorophyll content and photosynthesis, indirectly supporting biomass in cannabis. **Application Notes**: TMG is typically applied at 0.5–2 g/L via foliar spray. Its effects in cannabis are inferred from other crops, so careful experimentation is needed. ### 4. Glutamine Glutamine is a conditionally essential amino acid central to nitrogen metabolism: - **Growth Promotion**: Glutamine (10–1000 mg/L) significantly enhances shoot elongation, root growth, and chlorophyll content in plants like lettuce and hibiscus, likely benefiting cannabis vegetative growth. In cannabis, it may support lush foliage and robust rooting in hydroponics.[](https://www.scielo.br/j/oh/a/GZxMgqXb9wm7bsCTv4WwPdc/?lang=en)[](https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/opag-2019-0016/html)[](https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/opag-2019-0016/html?lang=en) - **Nitrogen Assimilation**: As a primary nitrogen acceptor, glutamine improves nitrogen use efficiency via the glutamine synthetase/glutamate synthase cycle, enhancing nutrient uptake in cannabis.[](https://academic.oup.com/jxb/article/58/9/2339/544408)[](https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/plant-science/articles/10.3389/fpls.2019.01743/full) - **Stress Response**: Glutamine supports proline synthesis, boosting stress tolerance. It also contributes to chlorophyll and protein synthesis, improving photosynthesis and yield potential in cannabis.[](https://www.mdpi.com/2311-7524/8/12/1110)[](https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/plant-science/articles/10.3389/fpls.2019.01743/full) - **Secondary Metabolism**: Glutamine is a precursor to glutamate, which influences GABA, arginine, and proline synthesis, potentially affecting cannabinoid or terpene production indirectly.[](https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/plant-science/articles/10.3389/fpls.2019.01743/full) **Application Notes**: Foliar sprays (250–1000 mg/L) or root application twice weekly are effective. Glutamine at 250 mg/L combined with other amino acids (e.g., glycine) shows synergistic growth effects.[](https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/opag-2019-0016/html) ### Synergistic Effects on Cannabis - **Growth and Yield**: The combination of EAAs, glutamine, and proline may enhance vegetative growth and biomass. Glutamine and EAAs drive protein synthesis and nitrogen uptake, while proline supports tissue integrity under stress. TMG likely amplifies these effects by improving cellular hydration and methylation, potentially increasing leaf area and bud quality.[](https://www.mdpi.com/2311-7524/8/12/1110)[](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-21273-6) - **Stress Resilience**: Proline and TMG act as osmoprotectants, while EAAs and glutamine bolster antioxidant systems, collectively improving cannabis resilience to drought, salinity, or temperature extremes common in cultivation.[](https://www.mdpi.com/2311-7524/9/7/807) - **Secondary Metabolites**: Glutamine and TMG may enhance cannabinoid and terpene production by supporting metabolic pathways (e.g., methylation, nitrogen metabolism). EAAs like methionine could influence sulfur-based terpenes. However, direct evidence for cannabinoid enhancement is sparse.[](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9008891/) - **Nutrient Efficiency**: Glutamine and EAAs improve nitrogen and micronutrient uptake, while TMG may enhance nutrient transport, optimizing cannabis growth in nutrient-limited systems like hydroponics.[](https://mycsainc.com/newsletter/en/2023/03/03/amino-acids-and-their-function-in-plants/) ### Potential Risks and Considerations - **Inhibition at High Doses**: High concentrations of proline or certain EAAs (e.g., lysine, valine) can inhibit growth if used as sole nitrogen sources. Balanced mixtures mitigate this, as glutamine can antagonize inhibitory effects of proline or other amino acids.[](https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/plant-science/articles/10.3389/fpls.2023.1281495/full) - **Nitrogen Overload**: Excessive EAAs or glutamine may lead to nitrogen toxicity, causing leaf burn or stunted growth in cannabis. Monitor plant response and maintain balanced nutrient solutions.[](https://cannabisindustryinstitute.com/news/amino-acids-what-they-mean-to-your-cannabis-grow/) - **TMG Metabolism**: TMG may increase trimethylamine production in the soil microbiome, potentially affecting cannabis root health if not managed. Healthy soil microflora can mitigate this.[](https://cannabisindustryinstitute.com/news/amino-acids-what-they-mean-to-your-cannabis-grow/) - **Application Timing**: Foliar sprays (150–500 mg/L for EAAs, glutamine, proline; 0.5–2 g/L for TMG) during vegetative growth or early flowering maximize benefits. Avoid overuse during late flowering to prevent nutrient imbalances affecting bud quality. ### Cannabis-Specific Insights - **Hydroponics and Soil**: In hydroponic systems, EAAs and glutamine ensure efficient nitrogen delivery, while proline and TMG support stress resistance in fluctuating pH or nutrient conditions. In soil, maintaining microflora is crucial, as it naturally supplies amino acids; supplementation should be moderate.[](https://cannabisindustryinstitute.com/news/amino-acids-what-they-mean-to-your-cannabis-grow/)[](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9008891/) - **Cultivar Variability**: Cannabis cultivars differ in nutrient demands and stress responses. Sativa-dominant strains may benefit more from proline and TMG for stress tolerance, while indica strains may respond better to EAAs and glutamine for dense bud growth. Testing is needed. - **Secondary Metabolites**: While amino acids influence secondary metabolism, direct effects on THC or CBD levels are unconfirmed. Glutamine and TMG may indirectly enhance terpene diversity via improved photosynthesis and methylation.[](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9008891/) ### Practical Recommendations "🚨🚨🚨🚨"🚨🚨🚨🚨"🚨🚨🚨🚨 - **Dosing**: Apply EAAs (150–300 mg/L), glutamine (250–500 mg/L), proline (50–100 mg/L), and TMG (0.5–1 g/L) via foliar spray or root drench twice weekly during vegetative growth and early flowering. - **Combination**: Use a balanced mix (e.g., 250 mg/L EAAs + 250 mg/L glutamine + 50 mg/L proline + 500 mg/L TMG) to avoid inhibition. Test on a small batch first.[](https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/plant-science/articles/10.3389/fpls.2023.1281495/full) - **Monitoring**: Check for signs of nitrogen toxicity (dark green leaves, clawing) or stress relief (improved vigor, greener leaves). Adjust doses based on plant response. "🚨🚨🚨🚨"🚨🚨🚨🚨"🚨🚨🚨🚨. - **Synergy with Nutrients**: Pair with balanced NPK fertilizers and micronutrients (e.g., iron, calcium) to enhance uptake.[](https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/opag-2019-0016/html) - **Cultivation Context**: In hydroponics, use lower doses to avoid nutrient lockout. In soil, ensure healthy microbial activity to complement amino acid supplementation.[](https://cannabisindustryinstitute.com/news/amino-acids-what-they-mean-to-your-cannabis-grow/) ### Evidence Gaps - **Specific Combination**: No studies directly address EAAs, proline, TMG, and glutamine together in cannabis. Effects are inferred from individual amino acid studies and general plant research. - **Cannabinoid Impact**: Limited data on how these compounds affect THC/CBD levels. More research is needed on secondary metabolite pathways.[](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9008891/) - **TMG in Cannabis**: TMG’s effects are extrapolated from other crops. Cannabis-specific trials are needed to confirm benefits. ### Conclusion Applying EAAs, proline, TMG, and glutamine to cannabis plants can enhance growth, stress tolerance, and nutrient uptake, with potential benefits for yield and secondary metabolite production. EAAs and glutamine drive biomass and nitrogen efficiency, proline and TMG bolster stress resilience, and their combination may optimize cannabis health in challenging environments. However, careful dosing and monitoring are crucial to avoid inhibition or toxicity. For best results, test small-scale applications and consult with a horticulturist familiar with cannabis cultivation. If you want more details on application methods, specific cultivars, or further searches for cannabis-related studies, let me know!""🚨🚨🚨🚨 🚨🚨 7/31 125am!!!!! Adding L-glycine to the combination of essential amino acids (EAAs), proline, trimethylglycine (TMG), and glutamine can further influence the effects on cannabis plants, as glycine is a non-essential amino acid with unique roles in plant physiology. Below, I outline the potential effects of L-glycine alone and in combination with the previously mentioned compounds, focusing on their impact on cannabis growth, stress response, and secondary metabolite production. Since specific studies on this exact combination in cannabis are lacking, I’ll integrate findings from plant science and infer synergistic effects based on known mechanisms. I’ll keep it concise and tailored to cannabis cultivation. ### Effects of L-Glycine on Cannabis Plants L-Glycine is a simple amino acid involved in protein synthesis, stress response, and metabolic pathways: - **Growth Promotion**: Glycine (50–500 mg/L) enhances shoot elongation, root growth, and chlorophyll content in plants like lettuce and rice, likely benefiting cannabis vegetative growth. It serves as a nitrogen source and supports protein synthesis, complementing EAAs and glutamine. - **Stress Tolerance**: Glycine acts as a precursor to glutathione, a key antioxidant, reducing oxidative stress from drought, salinity, or high light. In cannabis, it may improve resilience in challenging environments (e.g., outdoor grows or high-intensity indoor setups). - **Secondary Metabolism**: Glycine is a precursor to purines and chlorophyll, potentially enhancing photosynthesis and energy metabolism. It may indirectly influence cannabinoid and terpene production by supporting metabolic pathways, though direct evidence in cannabis is limited. - **Nutrient Uptake**: Glycine chelates micronutrients (e.g., iron, zinc), improving their availability, which is critical for cannabis in hydroponic or nutrient-poor soil systems. **Application Notes**: Foliar sprays or root drenches (100–500 mg/L) are effective, often applied twice weekly during vegetative growth or early flowering. ### Synergistic Effects with EAAs, Proline, TMG, and Glutamine Adding L-glycine to the mix may enhance the effects on cannabis plants in the following ways: 1. **Enhanced Growth and Biomass**: - **Glycine + EAAs/Glutamine**: Glycine complements EAAs and glutamine in protein synthesis and nitrogen metabolism. Studies show glycine (250 mg/L) combined with glutamine enhances shoot and root growth in plants, likely amplifying cannabis vegetative vigor and bud development. - **Synergy**: Glycine’s role in chlorophyll synthesis boosts photosynthesis, supporting the energy demands of EAA-driven protein synthesis and glutamine’s nitrogen assimilation, potentially increasing leaf area and yield. 2. **Improved Stress Resilience**: - **Glycine + Proline/TMG**: Glycine and proline both contribute to glutathione production, enhancing antioxidant defenses. TMG’s osmoprotectant properties further stabilize cells under stress. Together, they may improve cannabis tolerance to drought, heat, or salinity, maintaining growth in adverse conditions. - **Cannabis-Specific**: This combination could be particularly beneficial for outdoor cannabis or indoor setups with inconsistent temperature/humidity, reducing leaf wilting or nutrient stress. 3. **Secondary Metabolite Production**: - **Glycine + Glutamine/TMG**: Glycine and glutamine are precursors to metabolic pathways (e.g., GABA, purines) that may influence cannabinoid and terpene synthesis. TMG’s methyl donation could enhance these pathways by supporting enzyme activity. While direct evidence is sparse, this stack may increase terpene diversity or cannabinoid yield in cannabis buds. - **EAAs Contribution**: Methionine (an EAA) and glycine may support sulfur-containing compounds, potentially enriching terpene profiles. 4. **Nutrient Efficiency**: - **Glycine + EAAs/Glutamine**: Glycine’s chelating properties enhance micronutrient uptake, complementing EAAs and glutamine’s role in nitrogen assimilation. This could optimize nutrient use in hydroponic cannabis systems, reducing nutrient lockout. - **TMG Synergy**: TMG’s role in cellular hydration may improve nutrient transport, amplifying glycine’s effects on micronutrient availability. ### Potential Risks and Considerations - **Inhibition at High Doses**: High glycine doses (1000 mg/L) may inhibit growth by disrupting nitrogen balance, especially if combined with EAAs or glutamine. Studies on Arabidopsis show glycine can be toxic as a sole nitrogen source, so balanced mixtures are crucial. - **Nitrogen Overload**: Adding glycine to EAAs and glutamine increases nitrogen input, risking toxicity (e.g., leaf burn, stunted growth) in cannabis. Monitor for dark green leaves or clawing and adjust doses. - **Competition for Absorption**: Glycine, EAAs, and glutamine may compete for root or foliar uptake, reducing efficacy. Split applications (e.g., glycine in the morning, EAAs/glutamine post-light cycle) can help. - **TMG Interaction**: Glycine and TMG both influence methylation pathways, but excessive methyl donors could disrupt metabolic balance in sensitive plants. Stick to moderate doses (e.g., 100–500 mg/L glycine, 0.5–1 g/L TMG). - **Cultivar Variability**: Cannabis strains (e.g., sativa vs. indica) differ in nutrient and stress responses. Glycine’s benefits may be more pronounced in stress-prone sativas or nutrient-sensitive hybrids. ### Practical Recommendations - **Dosing**: Combine glycine (100–500 mg/L), EAAs (150–300 mg/L), glutamine (250–500 mg/L), proline (50–100 mg/L), and TMG (0.5–1 g/L) in a balanced foliar spray or root drench. Apply twice weekly during vegetative growth and early flowering. - **Application**: Use foliar sprays for rapid uptake during vegetative stages or stress events. Root drenches suit hydroponic systems. Test on a small batch to assess plant response. - **Monitoring**: Watch for nitrogen toxicity (dark, curled leaves) or stress relief (greener, more vigorous plants). Adjust concentrations based on cultivar and growth stage. - **Synergy with Nutrients**: Pair with balanced NPK fertilizers and micronutrients (e.g., iron, calcium) to maximize glycine’s chelating benefits. Ensure adequate magnesium for chlorophyll synthesis. - **Cultivation Context**: In hydroponics, use lower doses to avoid nutrient imbalances. In soil, maintain healthy microbial activity, as microbes naturally produce glycine and other amino acids. ### Evidence Gaps - **Specific Combination**: No studies address glycine combined with EAAs, proline, TMG, and glutamine in cannabis. Effects are inferred from individual amino acid studies and general plant research. - **Cannabinoid/Terpene Impact**: While glycine may support secondary metabolism, direct effects on THC/CBD or terpene levels are unconfirmed. Cannabis-specific trials are needed. - **TMG and Glycine**: Their combined effects on methylation in cannabis are speculative, as most TMG research focuses on other crops. ### Conclusion Adding L-glycine to EAAs, proline, TMG, and glutamine likely enhances cannabis growth, stress tolerance, and nutrient efficiency by supporting protein synthesis, antioxidant production, and micronutrient uptake. The combination may improve vegetative vigor, bud quality, and resilience to environmental stressors, with potential (but unconfirmed) benefits for cannabinoid and terpene production. Careful dosing and monitoring are essential to avoid nitrogen toxicity or absorption competition. Start with low doses, test on a small scale, and consult a cannabis cultivation expert for tailored advice. If you want me to search for more studies, focus on a specific aspect (e.g., glycine’s role in terpene synthesis), or provide application protocols for a particular cannabis strain, let me know!"""
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day 26 of flower, gorgeous plant very unique leaf structure, and tall as hell, the experiment of topping on say 4 of flower seems to be paying off, i’m very happy with it at this height. looks like the beginning of anthocyanin breakdown are occuring in the fan leaves
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Removed all the new side shoots and the first set of fanleaves. Did this because I want the plant to focus all of its energy on the main stem. I dont need any new side shoots. I thought that this weekend I would flip them in to flower. But I'm going to wait some more. I want to see more height in the plants and I think that after this defoliation that hight will come quick😁🚀 PATIENCE IS KEY! On day 75 I changed the light colour from blue to red to see if this can promote some stretch before changing the lightcycle to flowering. ‼️I did not change the hours of light‼️ On day 76 it seems like there has definitely been some kind of reaction from the plants overnight. They seem to have stretched a little bit. I'll keep a close eye on em these coming days.
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3/16 234AM MONDAY POTATO N WEEK CELEBRATIONS! The plants in your photos look like healthy, vigorous **RF3 autoflower seedlings** (likely Banana Purple Punch Auto RF3 or similar from Fast Buds' upgraded RF3 line, based on the context of your previous grows with their genetics). They're in early vegetative stage at around 3 weeks from seed—nice bushy structure, good node spacing, dark green leaves, no major deficiencies or burn yet. The coco medium shows some perlite mix, and they're in small pots with what looks like a well-draining setup. Solid start **RF3 autos** from Fast Buds are bred for stability, vigor, and resilience (often with heavy resin, dense buds, and good yields), but like most modern autos, they're sensitive to overfeeding early on—especially in coco, where salts build fast if not managed. ### Recommended EC at 3 Weeks (Early Veg/Pre-Flower Transition) At week 3, autos are usually ramping up vegetative growth and may start showing pre-flower signs soon (pistils around nodes). Fast Buds' general autoflower feeding advice (from their guides and nutrient articles) emphasizes starting low and going slow: - **Target EC: 0.8–1.2 (800–1200 µS/cm)** in the feed solution. - Start at the lower end (~0.8–1.0 EC) if your plants are still very young-looking or if you've had any tip issues before. - Push toward 1.0–1.2 EC if they're hungry (rapid growth, pale lower leaves) and responding well—no burn. - This is often ~400–600 PPM (500 scale) or ~560–840 PPM (700 scale), but always go by EC meter for accuracy in coco. - Always measure **runoff EC** too—aim for it to be no more than +200–300 above input to avoid salt buildup. If runoff is much higher, do a light flush with FloraKleen (like your 4 mL/gal plan) before bumping up. - pH the feed to **5.8–6.2** (coco sweet spot), and water to 15–20%+ runoff every feed to prevent the issues you've seen with Purpinator/salts. Many growers with Fast Buds autos (including RF3 lines like Banana Purple Punch or Cherry Cola RF3) report week 3 feeds around 0.9–1.1 EC in coco/hydro setups, starting lighter if using tap/soft water like yours. Your previous success with lighter Maxi feeds post-flush at ~900–1300 EC later on fits well—don't jump straight to 1.3 yet at week 3; build gradually. ### Recommended PPFD (Light Intensity) at 3 Weeks PPFD (Photosynthetic Photon Flux Density, in µmol/m²/s) measures usable light for photosynthesis. For autos in early veg: - **Target PPFD: 300–500 µmol/m²/s** at canopy level. - 300–400 is safe and conservative for week 3—prevents stretch or light stress while encouraging compact, bushy growth. - 400–500 if plants are stretching a bit or you want faster veg (RF3s are vigorous, so they can handle it). - Avoid over 600 early—autos can bleach or foxtail if blasted too hard young. - Measure at the top of the canopy with a good PAR meter (or app like Photone if calibrated). In Indio's setup (likely LED or HPS?), hang lights higher early (18–24" for LEDs) and lower gradually as they grow. - Keep 18/6 or 20/4 light schedule—autos thrive on consistent long days. General tips for your RF3 at this stage: - If using Maxi series (like your previous grows), mix a light bloom/veg combo—e.g., mostly MaxiGro early, transition to MaxiBloom as pre-flower hits. - Watch for clawing (N excess😂) or tip burn (high EC)—flush lightly if needed. - These RF3 upgrades are forgiving but love good airflow and moderate feeds for those dense, resinous buds. Your plants look primed for a strong run—keep that intuition going! How's the light distance/setup right now, and what's your current feed EC looking like? Any pre-flower signs yet? Drop more pics if they stretch or change post-week 3. You're killing it in coco—keep observing runoff and leaves. 🌿🚀 3/19 330am 👨‍🔬 **Adding L-Proline (the amino acid supplement growers use) to plants on soft water can provide some helpful support against the stresses you're dealing with, but it's not a full fix—think of it as a stress-buffer rather than a mineral replacement.** Soft water (low in calcium and magnesium) often triggers **Ca/Mg deficiencies** in bloom stage (especially with Cha Ching or MaxiBloom, which don't supply much Ca/Mg on their own). This leads to issues like tip burn, leaf curl, weak cell walls, nutrient lockouts, oxidative damage (ROS buildup), and overall plant stress that feels like "the plant is struggling to hold it together." Proline steps in here as an **osmoprotectant**—it's one of the compounds plants naturally ramp up under stress. ### What Proline Actually Does in This Situation - **Helps with osmotic/water balance** — Soft water can disrupt turgor pressure and water movement inside cells (similar to mild drought or salinity stress). Proline stabilizes cell membranes and helps the plant retain water better, reducing wilting or limpness. - **Reduces oxidative stress** — Ca/Mg shortages cause free radical damage. Proline acts as an antioxidant and protects proteins/enzymes, so deficiency symptoms (yellowing, spotting, slowed bud development) don't spiral as fast. - **Improves overall resilience** — In cannabis and general hydro/soil grows, L-proline (or full amino acid mixes containing it) has been shown to boost stress tolerance, speed recovery, and even support better nutrient uptake indirectly. Studies and grower reports note it helps under nutrient imbalance, drought-like conditions, and environmental swings—exactly the secondary stresses soft water creates. - **Bloom-stage bonus** — Since you're already in late flower with Cha Ching/MaxiBloom, proline can support resin/terpene production and bud density without pushing excessive veg growth. It won't magically add the missing Ca or Mg (those are still critical—soft water + high-P bloom nutes often screams for CalMag), but it can make the plant more tolerant while you correct the root issue. ### How Much Effect to Expect Right Now - **Positive but moderate** — Many hydro/RO growers add amino acids (including proline) specifically for soft water setups and report less burn, better leaf health, and stronger finishes. It won't turn a severe deficiency around overnight, but it can slow the damage and give your plants a fighting chance in the final weeks. - **No downside at proper doses** — It's very safe and plants use it quickly. ### How to Add It (Practical Dosing) - **Source**: Pure L-Proline powder (available cheap online—make sure it's the plant-grade L-form, not human supplements). - **Root feed** (with your Cha Ching/MaxiBloom): Start at 0.5–1 g per gallon (about 100–200 ppm). Mix into your res or feed water once a week. pH as normal. - **Foliar spray** (often more effective for quick stress relief): 0.25–0.5 g per gallon + a drop of surfactant. Spray lightly every 5–7 days in the dark period. - **With your current nutes**: Yes, it layers fine—reduce if you see any tip burn. Many run it alongside MaxiBloom + Cha Ching in soft water without issues. - **Best timing**: Now through harvest is perfect, especially if you're noticing stress signs already. **Real talk**: The biggest win will still come from adding a proper CalMag supplement (like Botanicare or General Hydro's) at 0.5–1 ml/gal or whatever your PPM tests call for. Proline + CalMag together is a strong combo for soft water grows. If you're running pure RO/soft, most experienced growers treat this as standard.""👨‍🔬 3/19 10:09PM RF3 X 2 =6 fail? I have TWO 2 gallon pots filled with coco from the last grow. I can plant a NEW BPP RF3 OR!!! I can top the 3 RF3's and make cuttings and grow the cuttings? It worked before!. FAST turnaround time, not much prep just refresh the coco and transplant the tops! 3/19 10:59PM NO WORK FOR NOW.. HIT WITH MASSIVE WAVES OF NAUSEA AND SHARP PAIN, DIZZY, RUPTURED NECK CYST BLEEDING, PAIN FROM MOVING TOO MUCH LAST FEW DAYS, RINIGNG EARS BAD, SKIN PRONE TO MASSIVE INFLAMMATION ATTACKS NOW, WEAKENING GUT LINING,. LUNGS ..GRIP AND BALANCE OFF, SO PERFECTLY NORMAL!!! THANK THE WEED GODS FOR WEED. 3/21 3:30 AM I think I’m gonna top all three of them. I got lucky all three seem to be different ones. I don’t know which is which one of them is really tall. The other one has really tight in her note spacing it’s really good and the other one is also good little bit different so I think I got three different RF three seeds and I think if I do top them I’m gonna put the top in another 2 gallon and then grow that as a cutting usually works I’m not sure👍🌿 3/23 3:08 PM I cut them all in half today a transplanted the top of the tallest one into one that was still growing just to see if it would work. They’re all doing really good.👍 326 237am Remember how your local ss cant prevent or solve a single problem you pay taxes for. unless you're really really sick and the cowards decide that the most important and pressing issue is to raid weed users and farms and seeds...what a country of fuqs
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Just packing on the weight and ripening, ending nutes next week
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Just getting a jump start on this week's pics. Wow they are so nice!! Fastbuds always make me so happy!! They are taking 1/2 gallon every 2 days. Love watching them grow!!!
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The Purple Ferrari is doing fantastic and has stretched much taller than expected considering shes in a grapes container from Asda..my Coney Island Cotton Candy looks like it may have passed away unfortunatly.
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This week we solved a problem with high temperature and we had instaled a clima. IT Works perfect! Ladys are Just happy as you can see on videos😎happy growing to all of us😎🙋‍♂️🙌
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Something is annoying with this app. I cant take pics with it. Hopefully it just the app permissions. Nothing too exciting yet this week. #2 has been struggling getting adjusted to the new pot. Where #1 took off. Idk what the difference is apart from the training methods. Having said that I have topped number 2 and fimmed her lower branches hoping that a little encourage root growth.. I've also had to do a bit of re arranging. So these are now elevated the highest and under mostly 2x 50w auto cobs. They both have supplemental lighting coming from the 2 viparspectra LEDs I have near them. Day 52: Watered both the girls today. They're drinking fast! I water till slight runoff and they get about 2.5 gallons every 36hrs or so. Also we raised the cobs a bit up to 24" from them. Day 53 & 54 Nothing to say for day 53. Maybe I think #1 is getting a bit rootbound. I say this only because her leaves are curled like they are over watered yet the plant is dry. And she went in a growth spurt last week. Day 54 I picked up some soil for transplant tomorrow. I am putting #1 into a 10gal bag. #2 I haven't decided yet. Day 55: I transplanted #1 today into a 10gallon fabric smartpot. I mixed the bottom soil with Fox Farms Ocean Forest because we are getting ready to flip to bloom and ocean forest has more P&K and less N. And that's what we want. Hopefully she doesn't shock. I inoculated #1s roots with Azos during transplant. Applying it gently and directly onto the roots.
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Ich habe diese Woche mit dem entlauben angefangen. Und am zweiten Tag habe ich sie getoppt, beim versuchen mit low stress Training ist mir die Spitze abgebrochen. Passt war nur zu früh. Ich frage mich Ob es sinn macht den unteren Abzweig vom Seitentrieb auch abzunehmen da er so gewachsen ist das ja auch kein Licht abbekommt.
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Ok so we're on day 44 of flower and she smells amazing packed full of frost. one pheno will be done a week early of the 55 day harvest time. The other pheno is way behind and will be 7-14 days past the 55 day harvest time. One pheno has far spaced out nodes with foxtailed buds. The others nodes are much closer together forming bigger colas..
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This week has been all about maturation. I’ve been watering only with plain water, starting the flush to clean the roots before harvest. The buds are looking dense and compact, covered in a nice layer of trichomes that keep getting frostier day by day. The lower leaves are yellowing, which is normal at this stage since the plant is using up the remaining nutrients stored in the foliage. Trichomes are mostly clear with some turning milky, so I think she will be ready for harvest in about a week. Overall, the plant looks healthy and stable, with tight bud formation and a great aroma coming out. Even though she stayed quite small, she’s packing some nice, solid flowers. Watering: only water (about 600 ml)Environment: stable and controlled Stage: late flowering / flushing phase Next: monitor trichomes daily and prepare for harvest
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Hello y'all 👋 Obviously this one is chopped and hanging out by her toes 😎🔥❄️ she is a beauty even upside down There are only a few left to harvest. I am working on them as they get ripe and I will continue to do the defoliation on them to prepare them for the chop ?🌴 Thanks so much for visiting the growroom...Cyrus PS: again I apologize for missing last week's update and now being late this week. I'm starting to feel a bit better but need surgery in hopes to fix the problem
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Candyman Day 57, Day 7 of flower! Not much to say apart from they are defo fems 😍 the first plant looks to be forming bigger bud spots already. They needed a big watering so did that before light off and this morning they look beautiful again 😍💚 Update: Day 9 of flower I've stripped loads off and took a lot of lowers off and I'm hoping for some nice juicey buds now
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Weekly update, sorry for being a little late. I was out of town the passed week. Wow is it wild to come back and see them after being gone. The smell,look, amd beyond sticky is amazing. I chopped half as they're ready, the other half will come down in the next couple of days. All in all happy growing.
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hello ,I started again and increased moisture to 60% and two seed are ready and its good,i use my airpot 🆒design,i happy know your respose me,thanks.