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greenthumbartisan greenthumbartisan
4 years ago
Day 44 - March 25, 2021 Started noticing a couple gnats in our house. It's been warm outside and they are starting to come out. Unfortunately saw some in the room as well and can only assume there are many more feeding on the ladies. Gave foliar spray using Bee Safe Organicide. Gave all the girls a thorough haircut today and worked on trying to get canopy under control. Vegatation was very thick. Doesn't look like deficency issue with F7 is spreading. Continuing to watch for any changes indicating the problem is still ongoing. Gave foliar spray (1:00AM): * Bee Safe Organicide Watering: 03:00AM-3:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 11:00AM-11:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 7:00PM-7:10PM ~0.33 gallons per pot Reservoir: * tested 10:45PM * 2.21 EC * 5.9 PH * 73.94F (with ambient temps being higher, res temp is higher as well) * ~13-gallons remaining before topping off * Added ~5-gallons (solution mixed 3/24) (11:00PM) * 2.16 EC (after topping off) * 5.9 pH (after topping off) * 73.40F (after topping off) * ~18-gallons remaining (after topping off) Lights: * Gavita LEDs On 20-hours (8:00AM - 4:00AM) ** 8:00AM Lights On (100%) ** 1:00AM-4:00AM (Reduced light intensity to 50% for foliar spray) * Gavita LEDs Off 4-hours (4:00AM - 8:00AM) * UV Bars Off 24-hours Air control: 69F-82F (80F AVG) (Lights On) 66F (Lights Off) 50%-65% (56% AVG) humidity (Lights On) 60%-70% RH (Lights Off) ~1181PPM CO2 (Lights On) ~690PPM CO2 (Lights Off) Day 45 - March 26, 2021 Didn't do much in the garden today. Tucked a couple branches under trellis netting and that's pretty much it. Hoping will have the trellis on each cage filled out by next weekend. Nutrient deficiency with F7 seems to be resolved. New growth not showing any issues. Found a dead gnat on a leaf. Bee Safe foliar spray seems to have done the trick. Continuing to keep close eye out for pests. Mixed of nutrient solution (11:00PM): ** 50-gallons RO water (0.06 EC) ** 10ML h2o2 per gallon ** 5ML Botanicare Cal-mag+ per gallon (0.54 EC after Cal-Mag) ** 0.5ML Mills Nutrients Vitalize per gallon ** 10ML Mills Nutrients Basis A & B per gallon ** 4ML Mills Nutrients Start-R per gallon ** 1.25ML pHup per gallon (bring PH from ~5.1 to 5.8) ** ~2.02 EC ** 5.8/5.9 pH Watering: 03:00AM-3:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 11:00AM-11:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 7:00PM-7:10PM ~0.33 gallons per pot Reservoir: * tested 11:30PM * 2.16 EC * 5.8/5.9 PH * 73.94F (with ambient temps being higher, res temp is higher as well) * ~10-gallons remaining * Didn't top off today Lights: * Gavita LEDs On 20-hours (8:00AM - 4:00AM) ** 8:00AM Lights On (100%) * Gavita LEDs Off 4-hours (4:00AM - 8:00AM) * UV Bars On 8-hours (12:00PM - 8:00PM) Air control: 69F-82F (81F AVG) (Lights On) 66F (Lights Off) 50%-65% (60% AVG) humidity (Lights On) 60%-70% RH (Lights Off) ~1268PPM CO2 (Lights On) ~620PPM CO2 (Lights Off) Day 46 - March 27, 2021 Did some more pruning to remove thick foliage and open up nodes. Continuing to tuck branches through trellis. Expect will be ready to go into flower in apprxomately a week. CO2 tank ran out and co2 levels dropped to 330PPM for the first couple of hours of lights on. Replaced tank at 10AM. Watering: 03:00AM-3:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 11:00AM-11:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 7:00PM-7:10PM ~0.33 gallons per pot Reservoir: * topped off with ~18-gallons * tested 9:30PM * 2.06 EC * 5.9 PH * 73.94F (with ambient temps being higher, res temp is higher as well) * ~20-gallons remaining Lights: * Gavita LEDs On 20-hours (8:00AM - 4:00AM) ** 8:00AM Lights On (100%) * Gavita LEDs Off 4-hours (4:00AM - 8:00AM) * UV Bars On 8-hours (12:00PM - 8:00PM) Air control: 69F-82F (80F AVG) (Lights On) 66F (Lights Off) 55%-70% (64% AVG) humidity (Lights On) 60%-70% RH (Lights Off) ~1397PPM CO2 (Lights On) ~330PPM CO2 (Lights Off) Day 47 - March 28, 2021 Didn't do much in the garden today. Deficiency issue on new growth is continuing to newest nodes on F7 and is starting to show in F6, F2, and F3 as well. Also noticed a few leaves with small tip of nutrient burn. Flushed F2, F3, F6, and F7 until runoff EC was equal to input. F1,F4, F5, and F8 look good but will flush those tomorrow as well just in case. Flushed with: * RO Water (starting EC 0.05) * 0.5ML Mills Nutrients Vitalize per gallon * 5ML Cal-Mag+ per gallon * pH 5.8 * EC 0.53 Watering: 03:00AM-3:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 11:00AM-11:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 7:00PM-7:10PM ~0.33 gallons per pot Reservoir: * tested 8:30PM * 2.06 EC * 5.9 PH * 74.48F * ~13-gallons remaining Lights: * Gavita LEDs On 20-hours (8:00AM - 4:00AM) ** 8:00AM Lights On (100%) * Gavita LEDs Off 4-hours (4:00AM - 8:00AM) * UV Bars On 8-hours (12:00PM - 8:00PM) Air control: 69F-82F (79F AVG) (Lights On) 66F (Lights Off) 55%-70% (65% AVG) humidity (Lights On) 60%-70% RH (Lights Off) ~1312PPM CO2 (Lights On) ~1292PPM CO2 (Lights Off) Day 48 - March 29, 2021 Flushed F1, F4, F5, and F8 until runoff EC was equal to input. Gave Foliar Spray Foliar Spray: * 1 Gallon RO Water (EC 0.08) * 10ML CalMag+ per Gallon * 0.5ML Mills Nutrients Vitalize per gallon * PH 6.0 * EC 1.19 Flush with: * RO Water (starting EC 0.05) * 0.5ML Mills Nutrients Vitalize per gallon * 5ML Cal-Mag+ per gallon * pH 5.8 * EC 0.54 Watering: 03:00AM-3:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 11:00AM-11:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 7:00PM-7:10PM ~0.33 gallons per pot Reservoir: * tested 8:30PM * 2.06 EC * 5.9 PH * 73.40F * Topped off to approximately 20-gallons Lights: * Gavita LEDs On 20-hours (8:00AM - 4:00AM) ** 8:00AM Lights On (100%) * Gavita LEDs Off 4-hours (4:00AM - 8:00AM) * UV Bars On 8-hours (12:00PM - 8:00PM) Air control: 69F-82F (78F AVG) (Lights On) 66F (Lights Off) 55%-70% (67% AVG) humidity (Lights On) 60%-70% RH (Lights Off) ~1301PPM CO2 (Lights On) ~1117PPM CO2 (Lights Off) [Goofed up on setting timer for UV bars and were on during dark period causing CO2 to stay on.] Day 49 - March 30, 2021 No work in the garden today. Gave Foliar Spray Foliar Spray: * 1 Gallon RO Water (EC 0.08) * 10ML CalMag+ per Gallon * 0.5ML Mills Nutrients Vitalize per gallon * PH 6.0 * EC 1.19 Watering: 03:00AM-3:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 11:00AM-11:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 7:00PM-7:10PM ~0.33 gallons per pot Reservoir: * tested 8:00PM * 2.05 EC * 5.9 PH * 73.76F * Topped off to approximately 20-gallons Lights: * Gavita LEDs On 20-hours (8:00AM - 4:00AM) ** 8:00AM Lights On (100%) * Gavita LEDs Off 4-hours (4:00AM - 8:00AM) * UV Bars On 8-hours (12:00PM - 8:00PM) Air control: 69F-82F (76F AVG) (Lights On) 66F (Lights Off) 55%-70% (70% AVG) humidity (Lights On) 60%-75% RH (Lights Off) ~1288PPM CO2 (Lights On) ~793PPM CO2 (Lights Off) Day 50 - March 31, 2021 Deficiency Issues: Still having issues with what looks like Zinc deficiency. Also found 4 of 5 fan leaves with Calcium deficiency over the last couple of days. Runoff is PH 5.8 and EC is 0.78. EC in runoff has been very low. I'm pretty confident it's not a PH issue at this point. Seems plants are rapidily soaking up the nutrients in the water. I also found 8 or 9 fan leaves with slight nutrient burn a few days ago. Nutrient burn seems to have tapered off and haven't noticed any spreading. Going to try adding an additional watering to the schedule to see what happens. I'm hesitant to mix stronger nutrients due to nutrient burn I started to see earlier this week. At the same time, need to figure out the cause of the nutrient deficiencies. I'm currently using the Light Feeding Schedule from Mills Nutrients (says "light", but is still 2.06 EC including 0.54 EC for water + CalMag) Need to switch to flower soon but need to figure out deficiency issues before the switch. Defoliation: * Removed quite a bit of fan leaves suffocating nodes. Girls are 10lbs lighter. Despite the nutrient issues, the girls have been filling out fast. Did a timelapse over the past couple days and can see significant growth in a short period. Gave Foliar Spray Foliar Spray: * 1 Gallon RO Water (EC 0.08) * 10ML CalMag+ per Gallon * 0.5ML Mills Nutrients Vitalize per gallon * PH 6.0 * EC 1.19 Watering: 03:00AM-3:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 11:00AM-11:10AM ~0.33 gallons per pot 8:00PM-8:10PM ~0.33 gallons per pot Reservoir: * tested 11:30PM * 2.06 EC * 5.9 PH * 73.40F * Topped off to approximately 20-gallons Lights: * Gavita LEDs On 18-hours (10:00AM - 4:00AM) ** 10:00AM Lights On (100%) ** 11:00AM Reduced intensity to 50% for foliar spray ** 12:00PM Increase intensity to 75% ** 1:00PM Increased intensity to 100% * Gavita LEDs Off 6-hours (4:00AM - 10:00AM) * UV Bars On 8-hours (12:00PM - 8:00PM) Air control: 69F-82F (77F AVG) (Lights On) 66F (Lights Off) 55%-70% (67% AVG) humidity (Lights On) 60%-75% RH (Lights Off) ~1574PPM CO2 (Lights On) ~880PPM CO2 (Lights Off)
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greenthumbartisan
greenthumbartisanstarted grow question 4 years ago
Look like Zinc and Calcium deficiency? Watering with 5.8/5.9pH, 2.06 EC (Runoff 5.8pH, 0.78 EC) Few leaves had small nutrient burn on the tips earlier this week. Nutrient burn appears to have tapered off.
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2x2growinganswered grow question 4 years ago
Definitely looks like a ph issue. Have you tried to calibrate your ph meter?
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Nugs_are_us
Nugs_are_uscommentedweek 84 years ago
Wicked set up mate that is killer!! The lady’s look very nice hope you get some solid colas
greenthumbartisan
greenthumbartisancommented4 years ago
@Nugs_are_us, Thanks! fingers crossed
PigBearMan
PigBearMancommentedweek 84 years ago
Mario Bros would be proud of you. 😄👍
greenthumbartisan
greenthumbartisancommented4 years ago
@PigBearMan, Haha, I should paint the pipes green and mount some Mario characters on them
GuerrillaNo_4
GuerrillaNo_4commentedweek 64 years ago
Great set up my man, how long are you growing?
greenthumbartisan
greenthumbartisancommented4 years ago
@GuerrillaNo_4, Thanks! This is my first grow in about 9-years now. I grew for a couple years previously. Cut a lot of corners back then though and caused myself a lot of headaches lol Trying to be proactive this time around and maintain a bit more control on all the variables.
MedicalCannabisCultivation
Genius setup, mate!
greenthumbartisan
greenthumbartisancommented4 years ago
TheCode
TheCodecommentedweek 84 years ago
DId you learn from HygroHybrid?
Gzuscamp
Gzuscampcommented4 years ago
@greenthumbartisan, im presently in my first hydro grow and am using a torus hydro perfect ph balancer drop in and I haven’t had to adjust ph AT ALL as of this point. Might be due to large res with single plant but they make an inline version as well you might want to look into and could still add to your system at this stage. Was skeptical of their claims and am still in veg but appears to be working! Your plants looks great!
greenthumbartisan
greenthumbartisancommented4 years ago
@TheCode, Gotcha, yea I've saw quite a few designs using PVC and scrog on youtube. I also saw a video on one Mr Canucks channel and grabbed the scrog nets he used. (found size that worked perfect for my setup) From there just played around with PVC pips to build a proof of concept for my needs and once I had the measurements down, I built 8x of them. Like 10 years ago I tried growing under 6x 600 watt bulbs and grew some pretty big trees; however, I spent two months having to army man crawl through the room to do basic maintenance lol. That experience was my biggest motivation to try and build something more modular this time around. Still a few quirks I'm running into with my setup, but will hopefully get smoother and smoother over time. 2G per watt will definitely be god . This is my first attempt using LEDs. Been a long time since I've grown, but the tech seems to have come along way since then. So far I've been very impressed. Hoping to see a good harvest them. As far as the pens, couldn't agree more. For the bloody cost, you would think maintenance would be easy. They're a thorn in the side. Every time I test, there's always the thought in the back of my mind, is this thing even accurate? lol Would be nice to not have to worry about pH (feels like its the bulk of the work) Good luck with your goal! hope you hit that 2G/w bar
TheCode
TheCodecommented4 years ago
@greenthumbartisan, Well especialy for newbies when they start this hobby all ph things can look difficult I mean knowing what pen to buy how to keep it working it looks the TDS meter is much easier to maintain and use because it's simple device, but with ph pen it lil bit annoying lol for me i change those cheap pens every year ,every new grow try to calibrate it and when im using it and finish using it put it in distilated water take it out and just put the cap back so idk cant really keep it really nice i dont have a fckn laboratory it;s little bit annoying .
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DreamIT
DreamITcommentedweek 64 years ago
Enjoy growth mate 🦄🍀🤞
greenthumbartisan
greenthumbartisancommented4 years ago
@DreamIT, Thanks!
noxethegrower
noxethegrowercommentedweek 104 years ago
Nice work looks great! Respect to us hydro growers 💪
DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420commentedweek 113 years ago
Gelato is looking sooo fine, lemme have that!
Grow3rPT
Grow3rPTcommentedweek 114 years ago
Um cultivo que eu vou acompanhar 👍 Parabéns por esse cultivo maravilhoso