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Perpetual Cabinet of Doooooom!!! Round 2

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FL/84W
Light
LED/260W
Light
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks Technique
ScrOG
weeks Technique
Topping
weeks Technique
Strain
00seeds2 - 00 KUSH
Fruit Punch
Heavyweight Seeds
Growing it
Easy
Resistance
Strong
Had a lot of issues with PH in reservoirs, and I think with the amount of tops and their height blocking a lot of light, caused more larfy/popcorn buds to form, and only the top-most colas were dense. Either way, it''s my fault, not the strain, and overall I''d recommend Fruit Punch by Heavyweight seeds to anybody! Breeze to grow in terms of resilience to topping and training, not super pungent smelling (great for stealth), but the stretch is quite explosive, so height can be a definite factor. I''ll be growing this strain for a long time.
The Outcome
Week 20
Harvest
What's on the scales?
151
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
Harvested
2
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
0.42
ft²
Grow Room size
0.58
g / watt
359.52
g / m²
75.5
g / plant
4.76
plant / m²
619.05
watt / m²
Tastes like
Flowery
Fruity
Sweet
Feels like
80% Sativa 20% Indica

Positive effects

Creative
Energetic
Uplifted

Negative effects

Dry eyes
Nutrients
PH consistently drops when using SubCulture B - Could be caused by other factors though (eg: warm res, nutes?) ... either way, my plants didn't die, so I'll continue to use it - just hard to keep being on top of adjusting the PH.
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thephalanx420 thephalanx420
7 years ago
Wet Weight - Left Plant - 447g Buds, 269g Popcorn/Trim, 715g Wet Total Wet Weight - Right Plant - 407g Buds, 233 Popcorn/Trim, 640g Wet Total Wet Weight - Total - 854g Buds, 501g Popcorn/Trim, 1,355g Wet Total Dry Weight - Left Plant - 79g Buds, 11g Stems Dry Weight - Right Plant - 72g Buds, 8g Stems Dry Weight - Total - 151g Buds, 19g Stems - 5.4oz Dried in cabinet @ 25C, 55%RH for 5 days. Lessons Learned... 1) Harvest top of plant first, bottom after another week or two. I had SO much popcorn, which really surprised me, but didn''t really realise it until after i cut the plants down. Less colas = more light reaching all bud sites = higher yield/better quality (for a tall strain). 2) Flip when less canopy is full. I flipped when most of the canopy was covered, making it difficult to train through the net, and control the height of the plants above the trellis. 3) Monitor and correct PH/Temp issues in DWC Reservoirs. I think this is the biggest reason I ended up with less final quality/yield than I expected, which was partially due to lack of attention to detail on my part, and trusting only the visual inspection of how the plant looked while growing. No real visible issues, but after harvesting I can tell nutrients were a factor, as well as PH and Res temps, from what i''ve researched after the fact. Heavyweight Fruit Punch is super easy to grow. I honestly topped, pruned, and trimmed it often, and it never seemed to care at all - just grew more branches and kept on truckin ... Stretch is kind of crazy (2.5x-3x from my experience), so keeping it pruned and tamed was challenging at some points. I used a net and weaved for 2 weeks straight following 12/12 switch - had to bend tops through to opposite side of the net/cabinet for them to be far enough away from the light. This created a lot more colas/branching than i wanted, which in turn created overall smaller individual buds. Live and learn. I will keep this pheno going, and probably grow a different strain my next go around. I will also be using Hydroguard next time, as i think that might help with the PH issues and higher res temps (~26c). Oh, also, I noticed that the Right plant had less tops but bigger buds on average (I had removed 2 before flip that I shouldn''t have). The Left plant had more tops, and more buds, as well as overall weight. There was a substantial amount of popcorn buds, likely due to the number of branches and height of tops above the netting preventing light from reaching the bottom of the canopy. I thought I had kept the upper portion of the canopy trimmed enough to let light to the lower nodes, but i guess not - hard with the amount of stretch to prevent so many tops, though! UPDATE**** made bubble hash using 650g of fresh frozen trim/popcorn (a bit from last harvest as well, but mostly this harvest). dry yield - 15.4g!
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AfricanGreen
AfricanGreenweek 20
Growing some good bud there 👍
BigDaddyK
BigDaddyKweek 20
It's a lovely fruity smoke 💨
OldGro
OldGroweek 19
you sir have an awesome set up ..... very nice ....
BigDaddyK
BigDaddyKweek 19
Looks perfect 👏
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNSweek 19
Wonderful plants 👏👏👏
thephalanx420
thephalanx420week 11
Thanks, errbody! If anyone has any suggestions for ways to experiment, seeing as I have 2 identical clones, in identical reservoirs, in identical conditions! I was thinking of maybe super-pruning one and leaving only 8 colas, and scrog the other as efficiently as possible,,, ideas? If I do decide to go this route, I'd probably wait until the last week of stretch, then choose the best 8, and clip the rest. Bad idea?
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruid
@thephalanx420, Wow that is a really neat system. I would love to do something like that instead of lugging my 5 gallon buckets all over the house and not being able to scrog. Sounds good on the experimentation. I'm experimenting on my third grow soon. Just for fun because no matter what I will have more than enough for myself haha. I'm also planning on doing an experiment with my Bubble Gums in dry trimming one plant and wet trimming another to see the difference for myself since there is no real definitive answer out there that I could find. Best of luck!
thephalanx420
thephalanx420
@Grimbol, Thanks for the kind words! To answer your question about changing the water - I have 2 access holes about 2.5" diameter in the lids, with a small "cap" to keep it covered. When I do a res change, I take the small cover off the hole, drop a small hose/tube inside, then put the other end inside an empty bucket, and use a turkey baster to start the siphon. While the water is draining from the Res (takes about 4 mins for 10-13L), I fill another bucket with tap water. I add my nutes, etc, and adjust PH. When the siphon is done and the res is empty, i use a small 10L bucket with a spout on the end of it to fill the Res back up via the access hole. I can also remove the reflective insulation on the front of the Res (held on with velcro) so I can monitor the water levels and top-up as needed, as well as see the condition of the res and the roots inside without having to take lids off or move the plant around. The whole res change process takes me about 20 minutes (10 mins per Res), and I change them once a week. During the week i simply top up with PHd tap water as needed. I'm still torn on whether I should experiment this round, or wait until the next round. This is only my 2nd grow, so I'm still working out some kinks and seeing what works best and what doesn't, so I'll likely wait. That being said, I may still do some minor tweaking differences in terms of defoliation and nutrients/PPMs.
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruid
@thephalanx420, First of all this grow looks excellent. Nice fill on the scrog screen and ultimate efficiency. I love it! Second I was going to ask how you change your water out once you scrog the girls? I tried a scrog net but it was the biggest pain lifting it off and weaving them back into the net and then I couldn't even do that when they started to put on weight. What do you do? Finally, I say experiment! There aren't enough experiments done in this hobby in my opinion. I'm doing an experiment myself right now and I think it adds a level of fun to it. We usually read stuff online and then take it as gospel but I want to know for sure and see the results with my own eyes. Strong work man. Keep it up.
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BigDaddyK
BigDaddyKweek 20
How often can you crop every 8 weeks ?
BigDaddyK
BigDaddyK
@thephalanx420,it's really cool when you get a cycle going , have you thought of another tent ⛺ 😊
thephalanx420
thephalanx420
@BigDaddyK, my current schedule is 10 weeks - 9 for flower period, and 1 for drying. I could dry outside of the cabinet, but i like the convenience of doing it in there, and i do a full clean-up of the cabinet after each crop, so i'm doing the work anyway. Once drying is done, I move the clones from the bottom chamber (Clone/Veg) to the top chamber (Flower), and take new clones for the bottom chamber at the same time for the next cycle.
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidweek 19
Dude I love this set up. You are totally going to crush diary of the month in June. Saw you featured on the GD instagram and it got like 1k likes. Right on man.
thephalanx420
thephalanx420
@Grimbol, thanks! i'm loving it too - get to harvest every 9-10 weeks! last time (single plant/mum of these ones) got 6.25oz dry, and this round's looking even better! I didn't even realise they posted my setup on instagram! noice!
420_liquidsun
420_liquidsunweek 18
What type of led do you use? Great setup man?
thephalanx420
thephalanx420
2x Mars Hydro 300s
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNSweek 16
It must start to smell good isn't it ?😊
thephalanx420
thephalanx420
@JUNGLE_B4RNS, this pheno isn't very smelly, which is strange, but it does smell great! very subtle fruityness with a woody undertone. so fancyyyyyy
organically
organicallyweek 20
im fu... speechless, amazing! good job, have fun while flying
BrafZachland
BrafZachlandweek 20
the nugs look dank tho man, too bad she wasn't a little smellier, but if the smell is unique i can deal with less pungency, that said i am on a mission for the least stealthy pheno this side of skunk
ClubRiot
ClubRiotweek 20
nice buds! good job! 👍💪
DopeLeaves
DopeLeavesweek 20
Haha, Banana 4 Scale!
nicogm
nicogmweek 20
Congrats !
CANNASIM
CANNASIMweek 20
Congrats on the harvest! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Cheers!
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidweek 20
Haha I got stoned and opened my phone back up and pretty much said the same thing haha. My bad.
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidweek 20
You've really outdone yourself with this set up. I love it. Great work bud.
CANNASIM
CANNASIMweek 20
Cool setup bro! Girls are looking nice, and trichomes fantastic! Harvest looks promising!👊👍
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNSweek 20
A few more weeks and they'll have grown true the light 😄