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Fission 300W Light Emitting Diodes/110W
Custom
Fission 300W Light Emitting Diodes/110W
Custom
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks Technique
HST
weeks Technique
ScrOG
weeks Technique
Topping
weeks Technique
Defoliation
weeks Technique
Soil
Grow medium
11 L
Pot Size
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Week 1. Vegetation
7 years ago
35.56 cm
18 hrs
29 °C
6.3
Weak
550 PPM
40 %
16 °C
23 °C
3 L
1 L
53.34 cm
400 PPM
Nutrients 12
RapidStart - Terra Aquatica
RapidStart 0.264 mll
Recharge - Real Growers
Recharge 2.604 mll
Catalyst - Earth Juice
Catalyst 1.321 mll
Nutrients are spread out into 3 separate waterings plus a foliar feeding. Light schedule is 18 hours on total but timed like 6 on, 2 off and repeated. This is done partially to manage heat but also because it helps create explosive growth in Veg. Calculated DLI is currently ~20 moles/day. Starting tomorrow, they’ll also be getting classical Indian and western music for 5 hours a day.
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Week 2. Vegetation
7 years ago
35.56 cm
18 hrs
30 °C
6.4
Weak
550 PPM
48 %
18 °C
23 °C
11 L
4 L
53.34 cm
400 PPM
Nutrients 12
RapidStart - Terra Aquatica
RapidStart 0.264 mll
Recharge - Real Growers
Recharge 2.604 mll
Catalyst - Earth Juice
Catalyst 1.321 mll
The first couple weeks of veg are still showing strong growth despite transplant shock. It looks like the tops grew 4~5 inches but I just bent them back down. I’m using CannaTie soft ties for the SCROG and if you’ve never seen it before, you should check them out. (Medical grade steel, antifungal and antimicrobial, and freaking lasts forever.) My plan is to top heavily when I do other HST and turn the plants from about 8 tops each into 16. This makes the second trellis even more important for making sure they all grow evenly.
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Week 3. Vegetation
7 years ago
40.64 cm
18 hrs
29 °C
6.3
Weak
600 PPM
42 %
20 °C
23 °C
11 L
4 L
40.64 cm
500 PPM
Nutrients 12
RapidStart - Terra Aquatica
RapidStart 0.264 mll
Recharge - Real Growers
Recharge 2.604 mll
Catalyst - Earth Juice
Catalyst 1.321 mll
Now that the HST and SCROG weaving stress is over, I noticed the nodes were growing in super close together... Too close. So I turned off the Bloom switch and moved the light closer - reducing the DLI from 12 to 9 and the change in spectrum is more white/blue so it will stretch up nicely to the 2nd SCROG. It needs to grow 12-14” and then this tent will be ready to flip. Maybe in about 2 weeks I’ll flip Bloom back on with the UV and then 2 weeks later I’ll move into flowering. I’m really impressed with the resilience of the stems on this Mae’s cut... They’re spindly compared to every other plant I run but they recover from high stress training in only a few days! She roots very fast as well. Because of the Bloom switch being on earlier, these plants are now also showing some mild smell. Stem rubbing gives a soft pine and overripe fruit smell.
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Week 4. Vegetation
7 years ago
48.26 cm
18 hrs
29 °C
6.3
Weak
800 PPM
48 %
18 °C
23 °C
11 L
4 L
45.72 cm
600 PPM
Nutrients 7
Floralicious Plus - Terra Aquatica
Floralicious Plus 0.264 mll
Grow A - Cyco Platinum Series
Grow A 1.849 mll
Grow B - Cyco Platinum Series
Grow B 1.849 mll
The plants are finally running in high gear. Leaves are getting bigger and stacking how I like. I’ve got the LED on full power again. I change how involved writing down nutrients - I’ll change it to whatever I gave the plants each week. Despite being a sativa strain, she absolutely brings grows like an indica. Mae’s Cut of Cannatonic is very special... It comes with special rules if you accept a clone of it: You cannot make money off it and if you meet a person in need, you have to give them a clone for free
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Week 5. Vegetation
7 years ago
55.88 cm
18 hrs
29 °C
6.3
Weak
800 PPM
55 %
18 °C
23 °C
11 L
1 L
38.1 cm
600 PPM
Nutrients 5
Soul Amino-Aide - Aurora Innovations (Roots Organics)
Soul Amino-Aide 1.321 mll
Recharge - Real Growers
Recharge 2.604 mll
Catalyst - Earth Juice
Catalyst 1.321 mll
Lots of trimming and tight work to do in the 2x2. I also have the tent inside a closet and this makes it very hard to get my watering can where I want it. (The low sorting SCROG also gets in the way a bit.) However, the two plants are starting to look like how i like them. Extra time spent rubbing stems and giving them extra silica is also paying off... This pheno has ridiculously skinny legs!
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ScarfaceGuerrilla
ScarfaceGuerrillacommentedweek 17 years ago
Good luck, 2g/W- not possible in my opinion with 110W LED, i follow
HeyLookImOnFire
HeyLookImOnFirecommented7 years ago
@GuerillaPL86 The last run I did with this light, I hit 145g after drying and curing and one of the two plants had lockout during the middle of flowering. I think I'll get at LEAST 1.5g/W. Goal is always 2g/W.😍
ScarfaceGuerrilla
ScarfaceGuerrillacommentedweek 27 years ago
Maximum Flower yield- from California Light Works, the end line says it- but proof them wrong man, nothing bad about that ;) Pure flower matter yield can be favored by running fairly high red levels all the way through, a good starting point would be 80/20. This is the kind of growth pattern seen with HPS. Goal#4 – Maximum Top-shelf flower yield. This type of end product is the approach where having the ability to vary spectrum in all the different growth periods is most important, and where Hybrid Spectrum LED systems (individual Red/Blue/White control) significantly out perform all other types of lighting systems. So a good starting point for this type of grow would be: VEG: Depending on the inter-node spacing desired, decrease R/B ratio for shorter internodes, General recommendation: 60/40 for short tight internodes. This is the ratio found in the CLW VEG spectrum mix. Pre-flower: To again reduce stretching, R/B ratio can be increased to 70/30 for the first 2 weeks of flower, or 75/25 for taller plants. Extra deep blue will stimulate additional pigments during this critical growth period enhancing flower colors and fragrance. Flower: In this stage we want to maximize flower SIZE, so we will increase the Red/Blue ratio to 80/20. This is ratio that is found in the California LightWorks Full Cycle spectrum mix, or with the 550 series full on. Even higher Red ratios (by lowering the blue) can be used to further promote flower matter, but there can be a sacrifice in resin, fragrance, and secondary pigments. There is always a tradeoff between flower mass and resin (density) /cosmetic quality. We do not advise an R/B ratio above 90/10, and for no more than a week or two in the middle of peak flower, or it will impact resin and fragrance. And too low, (for example 60/40) during this critical period will promote excess leaf content in the flowers and a fluffier structure akin to outdoor flower. Ripen: Here we look to again enhance resin and terpenes (fragrance) so we suggest lowering the R/B ratio back down to 70/30 or even 60/40 for the last 2 weeks. At this point the higher blue ratio will not alter the flower structure or promote excess bud leaves, because flower growth is winding down, and transitioning to resin production. Results in this phase of growth are very strain specific and can be influenced by nutrient changes as well, so you are encouraged to try small changes each harvest to slowly dial in your ideal. UVB: IN this case UVB can be very important and it can be supplemented either the last 4-5 weeks, or even throughout the entire flower period to stimulate pigments and terpenes and most importantly THC. Note, UVB supplementation does NOT increase CBD levels.
HeyLookImOnFire
HeyLookImOnFirecommented7 years ago
@GuerillaPL86, Yeah CLW also claims UVB is required and cite a source that “proved this” by growing in a greenhouse. They also claim UVA does nothing so I take whatever they say with a grain of salt. They also say that UVB can be used all the time and that’s just not true with Cannabis - it’s too destructive in high doses.) UVA is far, far more prevalent in the atmosphere. Think about it: why would UV only increase THC when we know it increases the number of trichomes? It’s just a stress response. (UVB works btw but it’s more destructive to both the plant and people under it and you want to limit the exposure to a few hours a day at the most.)
ScarfaceGuerrilla
ScarfaceGuerrillacommentedweek 27 years ago
UV does not affect CBD level- only thc
HeyLookImOnFire
HeyLookImOnFirecommented7 years ago
@GuerillaPL86, Show me the research the says that. UV technically does not affect cannabinoids at all, what it does is it causes stress to the plants. UV attacks the plants and causes it to stress - thinking it is burning - which means it creates more of what it uses to protect itself. In cannabis, that's trichomes. More trichomes means more cannabinoids and terpenes - regardless of content. This pheno has never tested over 0.7% THC and regularly tests between 17-24% CBD. I will be sure to get a lab test at the end of this to prove my point.
ChefDan420
ChefDan420commentedweek 57 years ago
I saw some of girls go to help friends with LYME disease - IT WORKS! First I was diagnosed with MS, then was suggested that I get tested for LYME, sure enough tested positive. I had such a severe case of neurological Lyme that it caused me to have MS. Was on IV meds (8 hrs daily) for over two years. This was happening right when I started growing so you know I smoking like usual and it helped like usual. I would have an abundance of trim, popcorn, lard, plenty of frosty material good for edibles so I made rice krispy treats. Could be a coincidence, but I was on STRONG IV meds for like 2 &1/2 being tested regularly and the LYME stayed but the tests came back negative after I ate the edibles. Maybe a coincidence, maybe the BS meds they were pumping into my body finally worked. Deep down I know it was the plant we all love. Bad news I still have MS, good news is I have nice girls helping
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