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weeks 6-7, 9-10
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Week 4
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gsimd gsimd
3 years ago
At the end of this week, I saw yellowing of the lower leaves and some drooping leaves. Some research made me suspect overwatering. A look at the bottom of the seedling pots showed roots poking out. I realized the pots were sitting directly on a non-porous PVC board so the bottom of the pot couldn't properly drain. I raised all three pots up onto some spacers to allow airflow and things started to improve. I'll transplant these into larger pots on day 22 or 23. Carry on!
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MalumProhibitum
MalumProhibitumweek 7
OK, here is the promised follow-up. Let's begin evaluating, take it for what it's worth from an anonymous source on the internet --based on bro-science (50% facts + 50% magic) πŸ˜‚ I noticed in the video you are into DIY fixing, so if you want some more quick DIY stuff you could push your RH up just a notch. 49%RH at your current temps is OK, but you could probably push it to roughly 55%. As you got a solid setup already I'd suggest that you upgrade your "watering can RH-enhancer" with some high-tech-RH-modifiers a.k.a --moist towels, or some vessels with high surface-area filled with water to increase the humidity by passive evaporation and hopefully lower temp a little bit too in the process πŸ˜‚ You got plenty of space in your tent, use it to your advantage. By the looks of your plants you got the early-weeks low-light-issue taken care of and now you have to deal with the responsibility of having mini-sun in your tent. It might sound counter-intuitive, but by having high amount of light you might have to lower the amount of dissolved minerals in the water as high temps and high photon density means the plants need to use more water from the soil to keep cool and if said water has abundant nutrients in it, said particles will be deposited in the leaf-tissue and cause jagged edges of the leaves initially, then develop into dry deposits resulting in ugly dead spots. The middle plant with tight internodal space show signs of what I'd interpret as slight stress from too much light vs high nutrient to water ratio (jagged leaf edges) bit high EC, that will probably develop into brown spots if it isn't taken care of, resulting in damaged leaves in the oncoming weeks unless you cut back some on the total-dissolved-solids in her drinking water. At the moment you are red-lining her w/o reaping much of the added benefits of more grow-juice in the drinks and for every week of redlining you will inherit the previous weeks problems and add new ones on top of that. You could also lower the amount of light hitting her, but I'd prefer to keep the light output as high as possible and just increase her water to nutrient ratio. As a rule of thumb --if it's just jagged leaf edges I normally just blast on, but if it develops into bleaching and or deposits in the leaves I deal with it by lower EC and bit less PPFD. The left plant probably just need to develop it's roots a little longer. The plant to the right seems to have just the right amount of light hitting her and are able to utilize the resources into healthy growth. I have nothing to add; she just looks dialled in and happy πŸ˜‹ As you transplanted your babies pretty recently I admit my advices are more speculative than based-facts. I'm no grow-guru haha and most likely they will develop and grow out of any signs of not feeling well now if you just have patience & don't give them too much love (overfeeding em or blasting them with too much light or break them with too much LST turning into extreme HST) 😁 Know the outcome & you will see the journey πŸ‘ŠπŸ˜
MalumProhibitum
MalumProhibitum
@gsimd, No problem, no problem haha. Once you complete this grow and start a new one we are about equal in knowledge, so don't put me on a pedestal and take my word for gospel πŸ˜‹ Just wanted to share some of my info to see if I could speed up your learning-curve haha. Your diary is very easy to follow and it's almost like looking over your shoulders, when you share your grow-space with us, no purple lights in the photos or weird camera angles ; very informative pictures+videoπŸ‘
gsimd
gsimd
@MalumProhibitum, - Thanks again for your advice. It's a lot to process and I appreciate it immensely.
MalumProhibitum
MalumProhibitum
@gsimd, Guess I'm over the experimenting when it comes to feeding my plants sugars and what not and prefer to give them a more strict diet of Macro/Micro/Trace nutrients and some bonus goodies taken up from the peat-moss & what not in the soil. But I know there are people much more into those things, organic nutes in particular, compost tea and what not, who get some great results. For me personally I cannot taste or feel the difference between organic and the industrial DIY-salt bureaucrat mix I use, so I go with the most inexpensive option. I'm trying to keep things as simple as I possibly can when it comes to growing. If I can remove unicorn-poop from my feeding-chart and save money, while at the same time get healthy plants, boom! my optionπŸ˜‚ One issue I could think of right now is if you use nutrients high in nitrogen, those nutes woundnt be too good to use in flower as you would risk depleting potassium and possibly phosforus in the soil, while as the same time accumulate more and more nitrogen, risking to push up the EC/TDS above comfortable levels for the plant, while at the same time being too low on K & P; risking to stunt the growth and development of flowers. A great way to build a buffer, when not knowing if the nutrients are OK is to skip defoliation and let the plant be as intact as possible. That way your plant have an easier time to prioritize where it want it's nutrients and can steal some of them from abundant leaves if it has to, if said element happen to be mobile. That makes it possible to locate and identify possible excess/deficiencies and spikes in pH or EC and light as a bonus. Then as you grow more and more confident you can switch to photo-period plants, and shape them as you like and wait with sending them to flower until the grow-space is completely populated and looks healthy and boom! FLOWER😍
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MalumProhibitum
MalumProhibitumweek 6
Week #0 --Plants need need more light to help them develop it's true leaves quicker and for better root development and less stretch. Color on the plants looks nice & healthy. Week #1 veg -- Plants still need bit more light to help in leaf development and to prevent too much stretch (roots are probably reaching the bottom of that pot by now, if not earlier). Color of the plants still has a healthy green hue. Week #2 veg -- overwatered, let top-layer dry up some before adding more water to let more air into the soil to the core of the pot. Leaves still has a nice green hue, apart from looking a bit droopy, probably due to roots not getting enough oxygen due to abundant water in the root-area. Week #3 veg -- day 16 healthy green leaves, move to bigger pot. Day 20, roots need more room to spread; transfer to bigger container :) Leaf color looks OK, still bit droopy and you could probably get quicker development of the plant if you transfer sooner to give roots more space and water less, to give roots a chance to develop faster and in turn transfer more nutrients to the upper portion of the plant. Week #4 -- Read week 3. Week #5 -- Good, you moved them to a proper size pot. Beware though, as 3 gal containers are quite large it's easy to overwater the plants. Soil is spongy and full of gaps for air to pass through, giving roots lots of surface area to inhale oxygen from the air and exhale CO2, which in turn can get vented out torough the soil. Soil soaked in water drasticly loses it's spongy apearance and the volume of avaliable circulating air decreases. Less circulation, less root development, less roots, less growth of the plant. Week #6 flower -- Here you reap the fruits of the previous weeks. Leaf color isn't horrible, but the lower leaves are losing color due to mobile nutrients being transferred from the older growth to save the new growth since roots cannot send up enough of these nutrients from the soil. Now it's easy to start pumping more nutrients into the soil to prevent these symptoms on the leaves, when the root cause of the problem is poorly developed roots, not able to support the development of the parts of the plants which are above the soil. Conclusion: More light early in the grow. Transplant to bigger container sooner. Less is more in terms of watering the plant. Not too bad for a first timer :) Keep on learning! πŸ‘ŠπŸ˜
MalumProhibitum
MalumProhibitum
@gsimd, I'll have a look & drop a comment in your new-week-update πŸ‘ŠπŸ˜
gsimd
gsimd
@MalumProhibitum, - I appreciate this feedback so very much. It's so nice of you to take the time to share your experience with a first timer. It was a very nice surpise. I just post the week 7 update and would love to hear your thoughts on it. Thanks again.
COLORBLIND_CANNABIS
COLORBLIND_CANNABISweek 5
I AM GROWING THE SAME STRAIN FROM ILGM. DAY 28/29 OVERNIGHT, BOTH OF MINE STARTED SHOWING PISTILS ALSO.
gsimd
gsimd
@COLORBLIND_CANNABIS, Yours look a lot better and bigger than mine. Keep up the good work. I'll be watching.
COLORBLIND_CANNABIS
COLORBLIND_CANNABIS
@gsimd, I threw mine in Ocean Forest and Real Growers Grow Dots. I was looking for the easiest to start my first grow so that I could watch a plant grow and understand how it looks. I had never grown anything before so its been a day to day learning experience.
gsimd
gsimd
@COLORBLIND_CANNABIS, - I just checked out your grow and your plants are so much bigger than mine. I made the mistake of starting in peat cups that are supposed to decompose when transplanted in the bigger pots. Unfortunatley, they just bound the roots and stunted growth. Live and learn.
LittleJohn
LittleJohnweek 5
Good luck and happy growingπŸ’šπŸ™πŸ»πŸ˜‹πŸŒ±
Sour_D
Sour_Dweek 3
Those do look over-watered but they will recover quickly from that, best of luck with the grow! 😎
Legendaryseedthumb
Legendaryseedthumbweek 1
Happy growing my friend!🌱 Peace & love L.S.T
Godesskat
Godesskatweek 7
Daaamn OMG. Good luck wish u all the bestπŸ€©βœ…
CrazyHorse
CrazyHorseweek 11
Beautiful buds πŸ˜‡ Happy smoking πŸ˜‡ πŸ’ͺ πŸ™