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TinyTenter TinyTenter
2 years ago
Runoff ECs of 1.5 as compared to 1.1 input. Once again, I was there wondering why runoff ECs go up so much during flower for me (everyone?). Then it hit me. When I'm in veg, runoff ECs are usually under input ECs, but during flower the opposite happens. But during veg, humidity levels are hovering around 70%+ most of the time and the outtake fan blows less than in flower when I'm running humidity levels at 50% or less if possible. Therefore, water evaporates more from the pot in flower stage than in veg stage due to lower humidity and higher wind. Water processed by the plant eats nutes from the pot. So if humidity levels are high enough, evaporation from the pot will be low. Runoff EC levels will be low. Water removed from the pot thru evaporation, however, leaves excess salt behind in the pot - thus these rising runoff EC results in flower, caused by relatively low humidity. Has me wondering if using fabric pots is wise after all? Maybe a good plastic pot keeps your water where it belongs and your salt levels lower? Worth thinking about. But does this also mean that high runoff EC just means you need to increase your watering frequency? Or watering amount? Or include some FloraKleen flushes periodically? Do periodic low EC flushes? Would automatic watering mechanisms be better? This might also explain why I end up with early red pistils with both of my grows. Last time, it could have been general stress as well, but this time, the ONLY sign of stress is the red pistil situation. I read somewhere this can be caused by soil (coco) pH problems. A pot with rising salt levels might create changing ph levels too, maybe? Well I'm watering twice a day. It's all I can afford to do. That's the constraint. Need to think about this. And who knows how important this all ends up being, anyway. I'll think about it after the grow is done. I have one more fabric 2 gallon to get through anyway. Might as well finish the pack, right? ๐Ÿ˜‚ As you can see, I spun the plant around 180 degrees, You can see the LST of the main branch. Strong biceps on that branch, let me tell you. Spinning her around like this changed the angle of attack of the water stream I hit her with at feeding by 180 degrees too. I was hoping that helped loosen up salt patches by creating new runoff channels in the coco. In an effort to avoid heat stress, (around Day 60-65 is when this started to happen with my last grow) I changed the light cycle to 16/8. Going with the theme of the grow - to serve as a test of several aspects of growing that I was curious about. As the week ended, I was able to get runoff ECs to stabilize at about 80 points above input EC rather consistently. It's a possible combination of things that led to this result. The 180 spin of the pot was one. The low EC flushes I did early on in the week was another. The reduction of CALMAG in my feed was another possible one. And an increase in feeding amount was another. Was feeding twice per day as usual - 1.2 Liters per feed at about 1.15 EC/6.2 ph times two. Before this week, though, I was putting in 1L then 1.2L (so 200ml less per day) with rising runoff EC. The first feed of 1.2 L would now give me 700 ml runoff (58%) but it was an important morning flush that rendered runoff EC at say, 1.21 EC. Then I would do the same amount, 1.2 L, at night with similar stats. But then got runoff of 400ml (33%) at a similar runoff EC of 1.21, say. Anyway, I was glad this seemed to be working. Was aiming for 35% to 60% runoff using the same amount of feed the trick to stable pot/salt management? Checked trichs for the first time on the top cola on Day 69. Saw lots of cloudy trichs. Many clear. Few amber on sugar leaves. But the plant was telling me she wasn't close to ready for harvest. Many white protruding pistils up and down the plant. Buds growing nicely tho - beautiful and frosty - and fast. My guess at the time was that she would be done around Day 84 - like a normally grown autoflower. LOL. Have a great grow day!
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TinyTenter
TinyTenterstarted grow question 2 years ago
Are there any obvious reasons NOT to harvest this plant right now? Like, do you look at this picture and think, "No way, you shouldn't harvest that yet, because..." Whatever that reason is, if there is one, please tell me. Thanks so much.
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ThinLizzyanswered grow question 2 years ago
Looking at just the picture there are no obvious reasons not to harvest. I always use a loupe to harvest. If you don't have a loupe and you think she is ready to harvest give the plant 4-5 days.
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Legendaryseedthumb
Legendaryseedthumbweek 9
Happy growing my friend! Nice reading your diary! Peace & love L.S.T ๐ŸŒฌ๏ธ๐Ÿ’จ
TinyTenter
TinyTenter
@Legendaryseedthumb, hey buddy! Thank you so much! Glad you like it. There's more to come! It's fun and nice to be back with a diary. Didn't pop one up sooner because I was deciding kinda big things about my life and just wasnt sure how this or any grow would fit in it. I at least know now things promise to be the same at least til the end of this grow... so I came back with a new one. I've been testing some things during this one, and I am coming to at least one kinda exciting conclusion about growing a plant in my setup that you'll see when I discuss weeks 5 and/or 6. Can't wait to write about it. Prolly in a few days.. Come back! ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ‘
2x2growing
2x2growingweek 9
Good luck with your diary๐Ÿคž
TinyTenter
TinyTenter
@2x2growing, Thanx so much!
BudzyMcbudzerson
BudzyMcbudzersonweek 13
Awesome grow! I did one resently (before I joined here) I had a bit less yield but I messed up on the PH with that grow. Still some super frosted buds!! Hope you enjoy the smoke!!
TinyTenter
TinyTenter
@BudzyMcbudzerson, The good thing about coco I suppose is that you get less volatility around the results. It's basically a sponge that holds nutes. So if your nutes schedule works, you shouldn't have to care about toxicities and deficiencies as much. But... You have to feed/water coco a ton! Twice a day for my 2 gallon pot. I hear you can do once a day with bigger pots, but still.. there's more work to do. But the benefit of this is that you are more frequently in front of the pot, so you get more chances to look after her and do whatever you have to do - LST, defoliation, tucking under trellis, etc. If you do go to coco next, try cocoforcannabis.com. Great advice there. Feed schedule too! Good luck!
BudzyMcbudzerson
BudzyMcbudzerson
@TinyTenter, Glad to hear its going well!!! I have a few of the clips on mine Its a love hate thing. I broke a Zkittle branch once with one. I was so devastated! But when they work good, they work great. I have moved to Velcro ties like you said. Using binder clips and the lower branches i can just Velcro to the felt pots. And with the Velcro its reusable which is big for me. i may have done 5 or 6 grows before starting on here, and hated chucking the ties ( bit of a hippy when it comes to waste if I can) I totally get being busy. I tried so hard to get a pic everyday but seems lately I've been swamped. and even replying is tough sometimes, I've considered doing the late grow / harvest pic dump. I Maybe ill do weekly since daily is near impossible lately haha! Ill be interested to see how it turns out! It is a bit of time and planning I totally get that! Its nice to see how others grow, from beginners to experts. Gives me an idea how mine are doing in comparison. The breeders tend to give you best case scenario. Ive been debating moving to coco from soil. Fox Farms soil gets expensive lately haha! Well good luck and cannot wait to see the final product๐Ÿ˜
TinyTenter
TinyTenter
@BudzyMcbudzerson, Hey, thanks! She's doing pretty good now. LST is well underway. I learned that I needed to officially retire the idea of the LST clip from my production. Maybe someday, when I'm growing big long sativas, those things will be useful. But for now, they are out of the rotation. If I had done it the "right" way, I would have just used velcro ties and garden wire to make hooks. You get more precise placement and control as long a you bend the wire the right way around the stems of the leaves - better on a small seedling. LST clips can work, but you have to be lucky to have the plant growing a certain way or the clips could do a little damage, or just fail to properly bend the girl over, which is thankfully all that happened in my case. Thanks for following! I don't have a diary for this grow I'm talking about yet. I'm a busy guy, so I don't start the diary until like week 10 or 11 when the management of the plant is fairly easy and I have time to write. But right now, the LST phase takes time and planning and I just don't have time to be going back and forth talking online about what is going on. I'm not even sure it's all that interesting to an experienced grower anyway, especially in coco (you follow the feed schedule that works and it just works). So I'll be out here with a new diary in like a month and a half most likely. Good luck with yours! I'll be watching!
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DrCicci
DrCicciweek 13
Great diaryโ€ฆ very interestingโ€ฆ waiting for seeds of this strain to arrive any day now and hope mine will look similar to yoursโ€ฆ well done!
TinyTenter
TinyTenter
@DrCicci, Well.. I do wish you the best with your grow of this strain. She's a pretty girl, certainly. Even though she was a smaller yield than my first and only other grow, I kinda have a crush on this grow instead. LOL. I like how she has a certain pastel like coloration to her. And the smell is great. I'm doing a second grow of her now. It's a different grow this time. Weird 2nd node leaves. Branches aren't as flexible. Gotta be careful with LST cuz the branches can easily break. But I'll really know what I got here when I install the flowering stage lamp in a few days. I've noticed that that is when you really see how big she will grow. I don't know if I'm gonna start a diary for this grow yet, but I'm collecting data and pictures as if I will... So follow me if you want to see how this one is going. I'll prolly start one in about a month or so if it's going to happen. Good luck with your grows!
TinyTenter
TinyTenter
@DrCicci, Thank you.
roro_204
roro_204week 12
Love watching and reading your grows๐Ÿ’š
TinyTenter
TinyTenter
@roro_204 ๐Ÿ˜Š
Benasquella
Benasquellaweek 10
Good luck tenty! Looking good mate! Wedding cake is a nice strain ๐Ÿ‘๐ŸŽ‚
TinyTenter
TinyTenter
@Benasquella, Thanks! Yeah, I got to try some a few months ago. I'm definitely a fan of the strain. I like limonene dominant strains, in general, but there's something special about Wedding Cake. Certainly.
Godesskat
Godesskatweek 10
Everything is better with a bag of weed๐Ÿ‘ป Good luck happy growing๐Ÿ˜
TinyTenter
TinyTenter
@Godesskat, Best campaign slogan ever! You got my vote! ๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ‘ Thanks, buddy!
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40week 9
Wish you best of luck and happy growing ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿ‘Œ
TinyTenter
TinyTenter
@Cannabeast40, Thank you! You as well!
Godesskat
Godesskatweek 10
Herb is the healing of a nation, alcohol is the destruction ๐Ÿ˜Ž good luck๐Ÿ˜