I soaked seeds for 24 hours give or take in water and a bit of hydrogen peroxide. Then directly into moistened soil and perlite. Happy frog. All 11 plumped up nicely and looked like it was gonna be a huge success. I always have trouble with damping off. So I lost 5 of 11. Every single seed did germinate though. I bred these myself with a female forbidden fruit cake and a male sour tangie. I have 100s of seeds so I wasn't really concerned.