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Teh_Saccade Teh_Saccade
2 years ago
Well, something strange has happened to Painkiller XL... Since the last snip - it has gone bright green..! Nuclear green, in fact! No idea what this is about, at all. I've consulted the chart and read a little about "lime green", but it says only, "too little nutrients" and "watering issues". Well, it is not too little nutrients - the plant is growing in some mulch with some nutrients already in there (slow release) and it is not watering, over or under - everything is just right. The colour is that of the new growth on the privet bushes, and that of the plants in the garden - it is almost as yellow as the leaves of the big Acer. But eh well. It is still growing, and that is the main thing! I am hoping that it will sort itself out as the leaves age, as it does look like the bright green of new growth and I was very early with the split and defoliation. This probably explains why it is so little - Danceworld has taken over as the largest grower - I think that Painkiller is related to Danceworld (I think Dancehall 20 x "CBD high plant"), but the leaf shape is very different to this. Much more stubby, more indica than the long sativa-shaped leaf of the Dancehall plants. We will see! I won't be splitting it into eight - four is fine for the space it is in..! I've put some pebbles over the soil, which I'll remove next week - this is to help the moisture stay around the top, and also so I can spot any gnats wandering on the surface..! Ready to splat those little buggers..! The infestation is over, and only a few remain. I will keep them under control! D: // I'm going to have to ask about this, I think, but I reckon it is simply that it is the colour of the new growth, and it will resolve over the next few weeks - before, the plant was a lush, dark green, and now it is looking as if it is pumped full of a particular nutrient, or missing some. I cannot think what it is, as I do not have the information - the pH is fine - around 6.5. I am not watering to run-off, as the plant is so small still, so there is no way to test this without over-watering it. I'll put up the charts that I use, too. They are from internet sites dedicated to growing cannabis. Actually... looking at the "before" photos - it is a bright green back then! I think that it is just that the plant is a brighter colour than the others and that there is nothing to worry about, since it is growing and looking healthy! The yellow tips are most def some over-feeding... But other than that, it's fine, I reckon! :D Well, healthy other than the nuclear green glow!!! :D haha // OK! so - Painkiller XL is: Respect 13 x Juanita la Lagrimosa (75% sativa, 25% indica - 9%THC, high CBD) So, this explains the bright green! It's the Juanita in it that is why it is so bright! haha, I thought it was a problem like Zinc deficiency! This also explains why it is so quick to grow..! I will def keep this one with only 4 mains..! I think I will construct a little grow tip for it and train the mains into a particular shape, since it is a high sativa plant. // The colour has sorted itself out - but the canopy is getting thick! I could easily cut this one for another split, for 8, but... I don't want it getting too wide, unlike the autos about which that was fine... I won't have space for all four of them in the little space, as I planned..! I've also put some other seeds in the pots, like alfalfa and chickweed and chamomile and mint, and a few marigolds... I just wanted them to have friends since they've been together for so long and the autos are gonna go in the next month or so, before I flip the switch for 12hrs! :D Hopefully I can keep them under control - I wasn't expecting this, tbh... the other diaries and things - this isn't how they went :/ Hurmmmm........ hodor.
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Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadestarted grow question 3 years ago
This plant has developed whorled phyllotaxy on only one side of the initial manifold divide. The other side is regular, opposite. I'm curious as to what may be the reason as to why this happened only on the "dominant" (faster growing) side of the split? 2nd one this season...
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GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
I think what you might be seeing is simply a genetic mutation... not common but certainly not unheard of! Good luck!
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XperencdGmanXG
XperencdGmanXGweek 6
have you smoked this strain yet? Wondering how it tastes and how potent it is
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccade
@XperencdGmanXG, Hey bud! nope, not tried it, but I'm having a time trying to keep it inside a small footprint! It's starting to really want to grow straight outwards! Give it another several months and I'll be able to tell you :P I don't think it can be much more than 12% THC (at least I hope not), but that's pretty strong for a CBD strain!
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadeweek 5
The answer is: Mutations in the R2R3-MYB117 transcription factor elicit trifoliate leaves and initiate axillary meristems... The trifoliate mutation is caused by a truncated MYB117 transcription factor that alters cellular homeostasis and fortifies γ-aminobutyric acid, folate, and carotenoids. That's some fancy big wards you gots thar mistah! So, basically - the plant is a mutant!!! If the plant wasn't put under such stress as being topped like this, then this mutation most likely would have never shown itself..! The mutation was expressing along the STEM/MAIN of the plant - the other stem/main was a BRANCH until it was forced to be a main. The mutation forced the cells along that line to go a little hinky due to some chemical irregularities - but I think that surgical intervention has done the job and corrected the growth pattern. Since all branches have assumed "main" status, the whorl has resolved to opposite :D It's also true that the hormonal chaos that follows such a shift in growth as this This correction is likely a result of the same mutilation as the thing that caused the issue in the first place! The apical bud being snipped off, and its non-mutant expression branches becoming the new apical mains..! In addition to this, I believe that I also by chance have cut off the apical bud that carried this expression at the second split, and the new mains are from both branches. Fingers crossed it doesn't appear again. It is therefore not able to continue to express the mutation along that main, as it no longer exists and the whole thing has undergone a hormonal rewiring to grow in a very unexpected way! It's a recessive mutation - as trifoliate phenotypes are segregated independently as monogenic recessive mutations. The mutation is still there, but it is being hidden by a more dominant gene expression (ie, "normal")! This is useful information! RQS' entire line could be hiding this mutation, and they'd not know it until every plant was carrying it! Interestingly enough, the mutation appears to be more prevalent in non-phototropic plants (autotrophs!) than phototropic plants! (additionally, gene MYB117 appears to have some bearing on flowering time: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33779489/ ) It would be interesting to find out just how many of RQS' plants in this strain have this characteristic, and if it is similarly expressed or able to be reproduced through sharp force trauma to the main stem!
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadeweek 4
I don't accept "coincidence" or "curious occourance" as a valid answer..! The potency is not in question! What is, is how and why one side is trifoliate, but not the other, when it would be expected that both sides might be..?
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadeweek 4
Looking back, I can see that there was some massive asymmetry going on with this guy... "the bat", because it was so lop-sided... I've one in the ground outside that is also whorled, but this isn't so much of an issue as it is growing untrained. Reading up on the mutation - it does say that most of these turn out to be male. This is a shame, as I was very much looking forward to Painkiller XL, however - there are worse plants to have as a male to pollinate the others, huh? Shame it has the trifoliate going on, or it'd be a good candidate. // This isn't a clone..!