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RQS - Painkiller XL

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3 years ago
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weeks 4
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weeks 4
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weeks 4, 6
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weeks 4, 6
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Grow medium
2 L
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0.1 L
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3 years ago
I had these for my brother's birthday, but even though he wanted them he vanished. I think that he is not well, as I heard he was in hospital before discharging himself and disappearing... So I will grow them for him, for when he decides to show himself again :) (Which I hope will be soon, as I am worried for him...) To start this one off, I use a peat-free compost disc from Growit and then pop this into a fibre cup that is filled with regular potting soil. Without any cover, it goes into a box and then is placed in the boiler cupboard for some warmth because it is quite cold outside still. Now - to try to be patient and wait for it to pop up! :D
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Week 1. Vegetation
3 years ago
The RQS CBD mix have popped up nicely, with PainkillerXL being first out - and I really want this one to do well! Unfortunately, Royal Medic didn't germinate... It took over a week for them all to germinate, and a bit longer past that to push out, so I am thinking that the temperature was a bit too low still - it has been almost freezing at night..! There's no issue with seed shells being stuck or ripping leaves or stems. The propagation light was a Favrison Castnoo 54LED, that was advertised as being as good as a 300w HPS, but it was really more like 3w :d I tried using two, but that didn't help - they are no good at all, really - may as well use the window ledge! That's gone in the trash..! So, this guy is going under the MarsHydro TS-1000, which is a 150w LED and is a great quality light, imo :) There are a few autos under the same light, but there is plenty of space for this guy at this stage.
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Week 2. Vegetation
3 years ago
7 cm
20 hrs
19 °C
45 %
9 °C
40 cm
This week has been a little warmer - especially at night. Overnight, they've been going under the light. During the day, sitting out the front in the sunshine. Switching the light seems to have helped, although this guy is still the least developed of the bunch. I think it's the temperature, as well as having such a low power light during the first week. Either way - the plant is looking healthy and seems to be developing better than it would outside. Painkiller has been developing a lot faster than the others, so it is evidently good for lower light and lower temperatures. This is good, as it is the plant I most wanted to succeed out of the CBD mix from RQS.
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Week 3. Vegetation
3 years ago
12 cm
20 hrs
19 °C
55 %
9 °C
40 cm
Going under the light at night is really helping..! PainkillerXL has been doing great! :D It's developing much faster than any other plant, bar the autos, so I think that he is a good one for the local environment and it likes this soil and water very much (at least for now..!). I'm thinking that at this rate, it will be ok to split it next week or so... Being outside in the breeze, the stems are becoming a little stronger with the agitation. They've been watered once or twice only this week. I think that the roots will be ok. When the roots start to break through the fibre cups, they will be potted into some square, plastic pots. The potting soil is a mix: - The bottom layer is some dug from the garden, with a handful of pebbles - A layer of regular potting soil, a few handfuls, is spread over this - Then a layer of houseplant potting mix, which is good at retaining moisture to seep into the other soil, and also contains some extra nutrients similar to that provided by leaf mulch and other things. - Handfuls are then mixed on top of this, so as to create striations of soil and mulch - Near the top, a handful of blood, bone and fish is mixed in to the layers - Before the final layers, some tree & shrub powder is mixed in as well. This contains some friendly fungus mix to help out :) This recreates the same type of soil that is in the garden, as each year the leaves and flowers mulch and then top-soil is washed over it, plus anything else that dies and decomposes to enrich the soil. Potting into the square plastic pots is useful not only for cramming them into a smaller space under the lights, but the lips are useful for tying stuff down, as well as poking holes in the sides in order to secure any wires or strings. I use these for starting off bonsai plants, before moving them into very shallow ceramic pots once they are a few years old. Painkiller is a little bit of a mutant, I think... It's developing faster on one side than the other, and the leaves are a bit odd - but so long as it's ok, it can grow however it wants! Painkiller is thriving, which makes me feel very happy :D
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Week 4. Vegetation
3 years ago
12 cm
18 hrs
19 °C
55 %
20 °C
18 °C
14 °C
0 L
40 cm
Painkiller XL is the pride of the CBD mix from RQS, for sure..! What a gorgeous plant - such a beautiful shape, luscious leaves and it appears to love the environment I can give it. It is a joy to grow, and I love the smell on my fingers after handling it, caressing its soft leaves and sitting next to in in front of the light and sharing in the same photons that radiate into us and fill us with happiness..! I'm not high! I'm loving this plant..! :D As with the others, there's no need to feed it right now, as the soil mix in the pot will have enough to keep it going for a while longer yet. It's not asking for any food just yet. The plant will let me know when it needs more fodder. I might water it with a bit of cal-mag and the Terra Aquatic Tri-nutrients mixed in... I've cut the hours back a little, as it is sharing the same space as the autos - and tbh I don't want the CBD mix growing too big until those autos are out... I think that giving it the TS-1000 (150w) from the start has really helped - this plant is irrepressible under these conditions. It tolerated lower temperatures and lighting at the start, and it hasn't held it back :) It was a bit of a shame to lose the top, as it was growing with such vigour! But I need a regular growth pattern. The top will hopefully produce a nice clone for someone else to look after. A good gift to give away..! :D Painkiller is strong and vibrant enough to be defoliated, too - although I was considering to just leave it topped. But, ehhhhh why not go for a good split? :D This plant is truly the pride and joy of the CBD mix that sprouted (RIP Royal Medic) :D I love it so much, that I am considering to leave it as a mother... Though, tbh, I would like to continue to experiment with autos... :D I'm trying not to think of the future too much! I'm simply loving to be with this plant and enjoy the atmosphere it creates! :D I love you Painkiller XL <3 // There are quite a few fungus gnats flying around this and the widow... So I've put a few spiders on them to build some webs. The compost I had from the garden centre must've been sitting there a while. I can see green patches on the soil, so this must be what they are liking - the mulch I added. In some regards, this is ok, as it means that the earth in the pots is good for growing - but at the same time, the fungi that's growing in the pots is stealing the nutrients... But - that's the eco-system of the grow space. I've introduced an apex predator, so they will start to get them..! If not, I'll put up a fly strip and that will catch them better than me trying to stab them..! D: I also noticed that Painkiller has a third branch growing from the next manifold split, but only on one side! That's unusual! It even has little growth spurs coming out of it... I'm thinking I might leave it on there, but there's nothing on the other side to match... A shame - that's quite a useful mutation in cannabis..! Shame it usually only happens with males. // Well - I decided to get rid of the three tips, as it continued into the next node, and was developing on the next too. What is weird is that it only happened on one side of the split..! I guess that this was the side that would've had 3 anyway, and it just continued along that set of leaves... Either way, bit early, but I snipped both the tips off to start the next divide. If it continues to happen then Painkiller XL may have to taken outside and burned. I'm not so keen on the idea of having to deal with a lop-sided plant when I'm trying to keep an even space indoors. This, coupled with the constant irritation of fucking gnats in my tea, gnats in my eye, gnats in my face, gnats in my mouth, it's pissing me off and I... Well, I took it out on the plants and cut them all for the next divide way too early... Bloody flies. // The flies are gone..! And Painkiller is showing signs of an N/P issue on the current leaves (being snipped off soon) - this caused me to test pH and moisture and discover that there were no drainage holes in any of the CBD mix pots..! D: DOH! What a fool! I've fixed the problem, and shuffled the top soil into the bottom after drying both, reseating in the pot - the gnats are gone (little buggers) and hopefully that is the wetness issue gone, too. Glad the gnats showed me the problem, before it was too late!
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Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadestarted grow question 3 years ago
This plant has developed whorled phyllotaxy on only one side of the initial manifold divide. The other side is regular, opposite. I'm curious as to what may be the reason as to why this happened only on the "dominant" (faster growing) side of the split? 2nd one this season...
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GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 3 years ago
I think what you might be seeing is simply a genetic mutation... not common but certainly not unheard of! Good luck!
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Week 5. Vegetation
3 years ago
12 cm
18 hrs
19 °C
6.5
55 %
20 °C
18 °C
14 °C
0 L
40 cm
Well, something strange has happened to Painkiller XL... Since the last snip - it has gone bright green..! Nuclear green, in fact! No idea what this is about, at all. I've consulted the chart and read a little about "lime green", but it says only, "too little nutrients" and "watering issues". Well, it is not too little nutrients - the plant is growing in some mulch with some nutrients already in there (slow release) and it is not watering, over or under - everything is just right. The colour is that of the new growth on the privet bushes, and that of the plants in the garden - it is almost as yellow as the leaves of the big Acer. But eh well. It is still growing, and that is the main thing! I am hoping that it will sort itself out as the leaves age, as it does look like the bright green of new growth and I was very early with the split and defoliation. This probably explains why it is so little - Danceworld has taken over as the largest grower - I think that Painkiller is related to Danceworld (I think Dancehall 20 x "CBD high plant"), but the leaf shape is very different to this. Much more stubby, more indica than the long sativa-shaped leaf of the Dancehall plants. We will see! I won't be splitting it into eight - four is fine for the space it is in..! I've put some pebbles over the soil, which I'll remove next week - this is to help the moisture stay around the top, and also so I can spot any gnats wandering on the surface..! Ready to splat those little buggers..! The infestation is over, and only a few remain. I will keep them under control! D: // I'm going to have to ask about this, I think, but I reckon it is simply that it is the colour of the new growth, and it will resolve over the next few weeks - before, the plant was a lush, dark green, and now it is looking as if it is pumped full of a particular nutrient, or missing some. I cannot think what it is, as I do not have the information - the pH is fine - around 6.5. I am not watering to run-off, as the plant is so small still, so there is no way to test this without over-watering it. I'll put up the charts that I use, too. They are from internet sites dedicated to growing cannabis. Actually... looking at the "before" photos - it is a bright green back then! I think that it is just that the plant is a brighter colour than the others and that there is nothing to worry about, since it is growing and looking healthy! The yellow tips are most def some over-feeding... But other than that, it's fine, I reckon! :D Well, healthy other than the nuclear green glow!!! :D haha // OK! so - Painkiller XL is: Respect 13 x Juanita la Lagrimosa (75% sativa, 25% indica - 9%THC, high CBD) So, this explains the bright green! It's the Juanita in it that is why it is so bright! haha, I thought it was a problem like Zinc deficiency! This also explains why it is so quick to grow..! I will def keep this one with only 4 mains..! I think I will construct a little grow tip for it and train the mains into a particular shape, since it is a high sativa plant. // The colour has sorted itself out - but the canopy is getting thick! I could easily cut this one for another split, for 8, but... I don't want it getting too wide, unlike the autos about which that was fine... I won't have space for all four of them in the little space, as I planned..! I've also put some other seeds in the pots, like alfalfa and chickweed and chamomile and mint, and a few marigolds... I just wanted them to have friends since they've been together for so long and the autos are gonna go in the next month or so, before I flip the switch for 12hrs! :D Hopefully I can keep them under control - I wasn't expecting this, tbh... the other diaries and things - this isn't how they went :/ Hurmmmm........ hodor.
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Week 6. Vegetation
3 years ago
15 cm
18 hrs
19 °C
6.5
Weak
55 %
20 °C
18 °C
14 °C
2 L
0 L
45 cm
Nutrients 1
Levington - Tomorite 5 mll
This guy is really starting to beef up after being so slow a few weeks ago. I find it hard to believe just how well it is responding to the chop! Look at all the extra growth the node buds are putting out! :D It's like a leafy hedgehog or something! I'm loving how it is so vibrant and its desire to live is incredible :D I really was not expecting there to be so much to fill the centre, but it has worked wonders. Initially, I was a bit worried by Painkiller's stale moments and I started to think less of it. I'm pleasantly surprised to be proved an asshole once more, in my putting of Painkiller to the back of my mind! :D I've tied it down a little bit, and also straightened the growth pattern by twisting the main stem to be at right angles to the pot. This is so the plant will grow in a more regular pattern, so to fit into the grow-space with it's CBD mix mates and be happy alongside them, instead of causing a fuss..! I'm going to start feeding these guys soon, as the soil will start to deplete soon. I'm also going to stop fiddling with him for a week, because - tbh - I'm not really sure what I want to do next... It's gonna need some more regular growth pattern, but beyond correcting the stems every now and then - there's nothing for me to do! D: It smells... like weed, green... but with a hint of limonene, so I'm guessing it's more sativa than indica, and that it won't be very potent. We'll see! :D As with the others, the lower fan leaves of the new spurs have been snipped - this is to encourage new growth to be vigourous, in order to keep the surface area for photosynthesis it requires to maintain and feed its structure. Also, like circumcision, it just looks better. The will to live is extraordinary! :D
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XperencdGmanXG
XperencdGmanXGcommentedweek 63 years ago
have you smoked this strain yet? Wondering how it tastes and how potent it is
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadecommented3 years ago
@XperencdGmanXG, Hey bud! nope, not tried it, but I'm having a time trying to keep it inside a small footprint! It's starting to really want to grow straight outwards! Give it another several months and I'll be able to tell you :P I don't think it can be much more than 12% THC (at least I hope not), but that's pretty strong for a CBD strain!
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadecommentedweek 53 years ago
The answer is: Mutations in the R2R3-MYB117 transcription factor elicit trifoliate leaves and initiate axillary meristems... The trifoliate mutation is caused by a truncated MYB117 transcription factor that alters cellular homeostasis and fortifies γ-aminobutyric acid, folate, and carotenoids. That's some fancy big wards you gots thar mistah! So, basically - the plant is a mutant!!! If the plant wasn't put under such stress as being topped like this, then this mutation most likely would have never shown itself..! The mutation was expressing along the STEM/MAIN of the plant - the other stem/main was a BRANCH until it was forced to be a main. The mutation forced the cells along that line to go a little hinky due to some chemical irregularities - but I think that surgical intervention has done the job and corrected the growth pattern. Since all branches have assumed "main" status, the whorl has resolved to opposite :D It's also true that the hormonal chaos that follows such a shift in growth as this This correction is likely a result of the same mutilation as the thing that caused the issue in the first place! The apical bud being snipped off, and its non-mutant expression branches becoming the new apical mains..! In addition to this, I believe that I also by chance have cut off the apical bud that carried this expression at the second split, and the new mains are from both branches. Fingers crossed it doesn't appear again. It is therefore not able to continue to express the mutation along that main, as it no longer exists and the whole thing has undergone a hormonal rewiring to grow in a very unexpected way! It's a recessive mutation - as trifoliate phenotypes are segregated independently as monogenic recessive mutations. The mutation is still there, but it is being hidden by a more dominant gene expression (ie, "normal")! This is useful information! RQS' entire line could be hiding this mutation, and they'd not know it until every plant was carrying it! Interestingly enough, the mutation appears to be more prevalent in non-phototropic plants (autotrophs!) than phototropic plants! (additionally, gene MYB117 appears to have some bearing on flowering time: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33779489/ ) It would be interesting to find out just how many of RQS' plants in this strain have this characteristic, and if it is similarly expressed or able to be reproduced through sharp force trauma to the main stem!
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadecommentedweek 43 years ago
I don't accept "coincidence" or "curious occourance" as a valid answer..! The potency is not in question! What is, is how and why one side is trifoliate, but not the other, when it would be expected that both sides might be..?
Teh_Saccade
Teh_Saccadecommentedweek 43 years ago
Looking back, I can see that there was some massive asymmetry going on with this guy... "the bat", because it was so lop-sided... I've one in the ground outside that is also whorled, but this isn't so much of an issue as it is growing untrained. Reading up on the mutation - it does say that most of these turn out to be male. This is a shame, as I was very much looking forward to Painkiller XL, however - there are worse plants to have as a male to pollinate the others, huh? Shame it has the trifoliate going on, or it'd be a good candidate. // This isn't a clone..!
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