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3 vs 7 gallon SUCKER PUNCH

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diamondtrichomes diamondtrichomes
6 years ago
The pics are from day 35 and I covered the cover crop with some rich compost I made. I then put coco loco on top because I like the microbe profile to help with absorption of my compost.
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growdoctordc
growdoctordcweek 3
Did the stem purpling end and reverse? I am not among those, and they are many and highly opinionated, who believe purpling is always a bad thing. And if purple flowers are so desirable, why are stems considered mag deficient if that is the only symptom? I’ve seen it regardless of nutrients, and never noticed anything negative as a result. What’s your take now that you’ve addressed it?
diamondtrichomes
diamondtrichomes
@growdoctordc, yeah I’ve used synthetic salts for my first few years and after learning more I’m slowly getting away from them. Almost all nutrients out there are synthetics, and usually the schedule they have on their bottle is way too much.
growdoctordc
growdoctordc
@diamondtrichomes, They look green, but then I couldn’t see purpling in pics from previous weeks. Congratulations on fixing it. And of course use up what you have on hand. The micros mag sounds great! I’ve often wondered why epsom is so frequently recommended when it has in its name the enemy of plant nutrition- SALT
diamondtrichomes
diamondtrichomes
@growdoctordc, mag def probably isn’t too big of a deal if it doesn’t get out of control, and I’ve heard of some strains having a purple color to them but this is still veg, not flower. I think I reversed most the purpling. What do you think? . This PASTE I’m using requires magnesium bc it has very little. I’m going to be purchasing Microbeneficials magnesium soon but I have a bunch of Epsom Salt to use up First.
AutoSeeds
AutoSeedsweek 3
She's looking lovely and green! Sucker punch is one of my favourites! Careful on the watering though.. :)
diamondtrichomes
diamondtrichomes
@AutoSeeds, ah ya I’m stoked! 😁😍
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 6
Lookn good! I was giving this some more thought and agree given that they’re autos I think it’s safe to say that a 3 gal. Size is enough for full root development at harvest (at least with most autos). Well done and lookn forward to the finish! 👍
Quexos
Quexosweek 8
Both plants look fantastic! I couldn't tell the difference on the bud shots!
diamondtrichomes
diamondtrichomes
@Quexos, yah man check out @fastbuds @mephisto and @autoseeds. They all are around 70 days seed to harvest!!!
Quexos
Quexos
@diamondtrichomes, Man that is a short flowering cycle. One of the Indica Hybrids I'm growing supposedly has a 4 week flowering cycle. I just can't see it happening. The other one is 9 weeks. That seems more reasonable to me. You've already learned which strains to grow in order to speed up your process. I need to grow more breeders/strains. I'd like to have a rotation of plants that flower pretty quickly after veg.
diamondtrichomes
diamondtrichomes
@Quexos, yeah!! It’s pretty dam amazing. I just chopped some photoperiods and they begged for 10 weeks, flowered for 8 and are the same size as a couple of my autos!! 😱
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Magich
Magichweek 4
this is so fascinating to follow.. kinda wanna try and do a comparison diary of my own.. i did topping and all kinds of training vs. only lst..
diamondtrichomes
diamondtrichomes
@Magich, honestly they were so close that either method was good. I topped some that did better than LST and one that I didn’t top out performed one that I did. On my new stuff I didn’t train or top any and all these plants are bigger.
Magich
Magich
@diamondtrichomes, what where your results? i got wayy better results on only LST, on my LSD-25 from Fastbuds!
diamondtrichomes
diamondtrichomes
@Magich, ya do it!! I did some of that on the FastBuds strains I finished last month!
Stinkfox
Stinkfoxweek 4
I love seeing this type of side by side grow comparison! Looks great!
diamondtrichomes
diamondtrichomes
@Will_journals, I disagree with your opinion, but I’d like to hear the explanation of why?? What happens when the plastic 3 gal out performs the 7 gallon smart pot?
diamondtrichomes
diamondtrichomes
@Stinkfox, thanks!! Stay tuned and follow along 😁
Will_journals
Will_journals
Fabric vs. plastic (by the looks of it) aren't a comparable side by side
Quexos
Quexosweek 6
Both plants are stacking buds nicely. Those are going to be very full colas. Again, though, I think the 3g is outperforming the 7g.
diamondtrichomes
diamondtrichomes
@Quexos, https://buildasoil.com/products/buildasoil-living-soil-light?variant=8798917492853
diamondtrichomes
diamondtrichomes
@Quexos, it may be the media. The 3 gallon is coco loco and the 7 gallon is a light blend organic soil
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 8
Lookn good! 👍
diamondtrichomes
diamondtrichomes
@TheBudWhisperer, thx!! 🙌🏻
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 5
cool comparison! Hate to say it but I’ve seen similar results between my 5gals and 3gals (smart pots). Really weird. Looking forward to the outcome! 👍
diamondtrichomes
diamondtrichomes
@TheBudWhisperer, yeah the difference isn’t much. I may just go with the 3 gallon pots for future grows
Quexos
Quexosweek 5
I don't know about you, but it looks like the 3-gal. version is doing better than the 7-gal!!
diamondtrichomes
diamondtrichomes
@Quexos, at this point I agree!! Guess we will see how the bud fattening ends up
Quexos
Quexosweek 4
Gogo little guy! Neither plant is vastly outperforming the other at this point though. I thought the 7 would be measurably taller!
diamondtrichomes
diamondtrichomes
@Quexos, ya same! Still a few weeks left so we’ll see on bud density but close one so far
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 10
Really Dope comparison dude and well done!👍😎👌
Magich
Magichweek 8
Woow, they look so much alike now! Can’t wait for some info on the finished product!
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 9
Can’t wait to see the yield comparison! Good luck with the rest!
Quexos
Quexosweek 10
Nice job! Both plants came out great! Do you have any clues as to why the smaller pot did significantly better?
diamondtrichomes
diamondtrichomes
@Quexos, makes sense for sure. Another thing is I grew with a 315 CMH in a 4x4 tent. I bet if you had a 1000w light, the plants would do better in a larger pot
Quexos
Quexos
@diamondtrichomes, Interesting observations. Autos don't have enough time to take advantage of the extra space. I guess a 5 gallon pot would be the next step. I've read where other growers swear by 5 gallon pots for their autos. 7 gallons would definitely be better on a photo as long as you give the plant enough time to fill out its space. I'd be careful keeping 3 gallons pots with them and trying to do the exact same veg period. I'd worry that the 3 gallon would be root bound by the mid flowering.
diamondtrichomes
diamondtrichomes
@Quexos, there’s two reasons I can think the smaller pot did better, one is the 3 gallon was on the edge in the center and the 7 gallon was on the edge in the corner so I suppose the one got a little more light. The second is there comes a point of diminishing returns. The plant didn’t live long enough to have the roots fill the entire pot so the 7 gallon was just too big for a plant that doesn’t go past 70-90 days. Just my thoughts! Thanks for following. Stay tuned for more
555ABKY555
555ABKY555week 10
thx for the test now i try to put 10 pot 3 gallons thx!! bro
555ABKY555
555ABKY555week 10
thx for the experiment :)
ChefDan420
ChefDan420week 9
Good luck 👍🏼
diamondtrichomes
diamondtrichomes
@ChefDan420, thanks!!