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2 years ago
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Outdoor
Room Type
Defoliation
weeks 11, 15
LST
weeks 5-6
Soil
Grow medium
19 L
Pot Size
0.76 L
Watering
Strain
White Widow Autoflower
MSNL
Growing it
Normal
Resistance
Neutral
Only rating this as average for now because I haven't tried the buds yet, I only just harvested them today! Will update this in a month or so after the buds are ready to try. This was my first grow, so I don't have any growing nor harvesting experiences to compare it to. Will update this after some of my other grows in progress are completed and I have something else to compare it to.
The Outcome
Week 18
Harvest
What's on the scales?
2.2
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
What's on the scales?
9.8
gram
ounce
Bud wet weight
Harvested
1
Number of plants harvested
2.2
g / plant
Tastes like
Earthy
Herbs
Pine
Feels like
40% Sativa 60% Indica

Positive effects

Hungry
Relaxed
Reviews. Nutrient
The Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil was great because I probably didn't have to give the plant any nutes during its entire cycle. However, many seeds with only taproots died as soon as I placed them in the soil. Fox Farm Happy Forest soil is known for being less "hot" so I might stick to that instead for future grows. Or possibly a 50/50 mix of both. The Fox Farm Big Bloom nutes seem to give it noticeable nute burn, almost immediately after applying, and only at 1/3 the recommended strength. Maybe because 1) the plant was an autoflower which are known to be more sensitive to nutes, and 2) the soil was already nute rich.
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DegenMJ DegenMJ
2 years ago
*** 11/21/22 UPDATE *** Dry weight: 2.2 grams. *** 10/28/22 UPDATE *** The buds started easily snapping off the stems, so transitioned the buds from the dry rack to a mason jar to cure for at least a couple weeks. It's kind of funny that I bought a whole pack of 32oz. wide-mouth mason jars thinking that's what I would need, and I would fill several up 75%, but in this case the buds only fill 1 jar up by about an inch. Anyway, i stuck a 62% humidpak and hygrometer in there to try to keep the humidity around 62 degrees and to be able to monitor it. At least the buds are still a little sticky, and they smell great! *** 10/21/22 *** This was my first grow and it sure wasn't easy! This was the only surviving plant out of over 10 seeds that I tried germinating and tried to help survive through the vegetative state. I researched a lot beforehand, yet still made a lot of mistakes along the way. The fact that this plant survived it all is probably a miracle! Still have a 3 day to 10 day dry period, and then a 2 week to 6 month cure period, so won't know how this tastes nor its effects for at least another month, but when that happens I'll update the diary! The total wet weight of only 9.8g is disappointing, considering that the average from other grows of this same strain is about 34.9g (1.2oz). After drying I expect to only end up with 20-25% of the wet weight which would only be about 2g. However, as you can see I wet trimmed and removed stems rather than leaving them on and dry trimming so I may end up with a little more than 2g. Will update later when I find out for sure. LESSONS: -Seeds really don't like hot temperatures. -Fox Farm Ocean Forest is too "hot" for most autoflowers in their seedling and young vegetative stages. -Germinating by peat pellet gives seeds a better chance of survival once planted, because it gives them a chance to develop for a couple extra days into vegetative state, rather than being thrusted right into soil that might be too "hot". -With a premixed "super soil" like Fox Farm Ocean Forest or Happy Frog, it is really easy to get nutrient burn if ANY nutrient mixes with bat guano or earthworm castings are added, even at as little as 1/3 strength. -Early in its vegetative life, I brought the plant inside to be away from the rain and my CAT chewed up one of the few and major fan leaves. I'm lucky that my cat didn't outright kill this plant like it did the pineapple kush plant. I learned to not even let the plant near my cat, and got a greenhouse for outside to protect plants from light rain that way instead of bringing them inside. -Insects REALLY like auto white widow. The only ones that seemed to cause an issue was caterpillars that tore up the leaves. Spiders made webs in the plant, but they didn't really do any damage to it. -For pest control, the plant did NOT like a neem oil / insecticidal soap combination, but did OK with a B.t./spinosad combination. -Plants do NOT like humidity. While this one didn't get wet much directly, when it rained a lot for several weeks the plant got bud rot TWICE and I had to chop off some of the largest buds. Since then I set up an indoors closet with CFL lighting to move plants to from outside on days/weeks when it is expected to rain a lot. -Didn't track P.H. levels at all, yet didn't seem to have any problems related to it. -Only gave the plant water from a hose with NO NUTES for at least 2-3 months of it life, yet it didn't seem to have any nute deficiency issues.
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Grow Questions
DegenMJ
DegenMJstarted grow question 3 years ago
Forgot to mention that the name for the diary is because MSNL sent the Auto Widow and Auto Pineapple Kush for free with my order of Auto Northern Lights. Ironic that the Northern Lights were the ones to not germinate. We'll see if scarification helps.
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Chow_13
Chow_13answered grow question 3 years ago
I think you were trying to add comments to your diary. But instead you asked a question. Go to your diary, select the week you want and in the center you will see a grey "Edit Week" button. When you click on that you can scroll down and modify your comments. Good luck and Happy Growing
DegenMJ
DegenMJstarted grow question 2 years ago
The auto widow circular leaves are curling at the tips and the tips are turning brown, and one of the pineapple kush auto circular leaves is not only brown at the tip but looks like about a third of it on the end is gone. See photos. What might be going on and what can I do?
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crimsonecho
crimsonechoanswered grow question 2 years ago
heat is too much for them. shade them with a cloth until they get a little root system going.
DegenMJ
DegenMJstarted grow question 2 years ago
Lower leaves are still turning yellow/brown. See photo. A couple weeks ago I got a greenhouse to protect the plant from the rain. Outside temperature has been lower and there hasn't been much sun (mostly clouds) so I don't think heat is a problem anymore. Don't know the pH. Help!
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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Roberts
Robertsanswered grow question 2 years ago
Okay so the answer here is you have nutrition burn. Brown tips that curl up is burn. So i think it goes deeper then just tok much nutrition. Shot In the dark here, but you are not getting sufficient run off. 20 to 30 percent of liquid in needs to come out bottom. Measure this water for ph as well. Without run off if you are adding nutrients it causes a build up of salts from applications. This build up will cause deficiency and nute burn at same time. It will effect the ph in soil is what does it all. Good luck 🌱
DegenMJ
DegenMJstarted grow question 2 years ago
Is it bud rot? I thought white widow was mold-resistant. See photos. Need to know ASAP because tomorrow I'm going out of town for 3 days so need to know whether to chop this or not. It has been humid outside lately but also hot, and the pant gets plenty of wind.
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GreenOrganicGermany
GreenOrganicGermanyanswered grow question 2 years ago
Tut mir sehr leid für dich, das ist definitiv Blütenfäule. Schneide die betroffenen Stellen großzügig heraus. Dabei immer schön die Schere desinfizieren und mit etwas Glück kommst du mit einem blauen Auge davon 🤞🤞
DegenMJ
DegenMJstarted grow question 2 years ago
Noticed another brown spot on a bud on my plant, perhaps not coincidentally after a couple days of rain. Bud rot AGAIN?! Can an autoflower in flowering stage get enough sunlight being indoors in front of a window? Worried that this is going to keep happening if I keep it outside.
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ernest_twwg
ernest_twwganswered grow question 2 years ago
If it is a window that gets direct sunlight for 6-10 hours straight, possibly. I've never tried it, honestly. You might need to get a full-spectrum LED as some backup light on cloudy/rainy days. But, you can get 50w-100w ones for really cheap these days. Under for a 100w. Good luck!
DegenMJ
DegenMJstarted grow question 2 years ago
Would you say the trichomes are CLEAR? I don't have a jeweler loupe, so these are taken from my phone with 10x magnification. If clear, NOT milky/white, then I probably have a few more weeks left till harvest time.
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Anonymous_2022
Anonymous_2022answered grow question 2 years ago
Hi there From what i can make out on the pictures they look mainly clear, Really you want to get yourself a jewellers loupe with at least 40-60x zoom it will make things so much more easy for you 👍 Best of luck 🌱
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Pjm70
Pjm70commentedweek 62 years ago
Looks like you need some help. Germination, what has been working for me. Drop seed in glass of water about 12 hours. Then move to a wet paper towel. Keep it in the dark. Make sure the paper towel is not soaking wet. You just want it damp. Then keep your eyes on it. Don't let it dry out, Make sure to keep it damp. It should pop with in 24 hours. Your plant is 1 skinny chicken. I think your light source is too far away. Looks like your plant is stretching. Also sounds like you may have nuked your plant with too much nuits. You can try flushing it. Add a lot of water and see what happens. Let me know how you make out. Hit me up with any questions. Oh 1 other thing. Get some peat pucks. Make them damp but not soaking wet. Put your germinated seeds in those until they break ground. Then plant the puck. Keep damp not soaking wet.
DegenMJ
DegenMJcommented2 years ago
@Pjm70, thanks so much for your help! It's my first grow so any advice is appreciated. The challenge lately is I've been getting and reading a lot of conflicting advice. Hopefully these pictures and my narrative helps. Generally, germination has gone well. It has only been the northern lights auto seeds that have not germinated, so I think they were damaged in transit from the seedbank to my home. All the others pop taproots in 72 hours in less. The next challenge is most of them are dying in the soil before rising above it. I only gave the plant nutes 2 days last week and at 1/3 the recommended strength, but after I noticed the yellow tips and curling I stopped. Yesterday morning I added about 1/5 gal of water to try to help flush it out. Should I add more? Don't want to risk over-watering it since that seems like a common problem. The light source is the sun, so can't really adjust that. After the seeds germinate I have been putting them outside directly in their final pots because I read that autoflowers don't like to be transported. Thanks for the suggestion of the pucks, I'll try that!
Pjm70
Pjm70commentedweek 52 years ago
Yes just noticed your outside. I grow outside also. If it's hot out try not giving them full sun for the first few days. You may have a bad batch. Are you letting the tap root get like a half inch long before planting. I use 207 genetics. So far all their seeds have been good.
DegenMJ
DegenMJcommented2 years ago
@Pjm70, no I typically plant right as I notice the taproot poking out of the seed. Sometimes it barely is. Should I wait till half an inch before planting instead?
Pjm70
Pjm70commentedweek 62 years ago
They should be inside until they break ground. Keep them moist not soaking wet. The pucks will help keep the moisture up. They need that
DegenMJ
DegenMJcommented2 years ago
@Pjm70, thank you, will try that!
Pjm70
Pjm70commentedweek 52 years ago
If your in a fabric pot it's hard to drowned them. Especially if you're growing outside. Good luck
love_2_grow
love_2_growcommentedweek 13 years ago
Happy Growing, Buddy! 🌱🌱🌱
love_2_grow
love_2_growcommentedweek 13 years ago
Happy Growing, Buddy! 🌱🌱🌱
IndustrialcannabisRD
IndustrialcannabisRDcommentedweek 122 years ago
Nice job💚 Take a look of my babies, pleas let me know your opinion💚
GreenGlowes
GreenGlowescommentedweek 122 years ago
Good luck with your gro! 😎
HighBigFella
HighBigFellacommentedweek 42 years ago
Good luck and happy growing