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CharlieilBrown CharlieilBrown
2 years ago
- DAY 50 (23/07) I will show you the rust-colored burns that occurred from the first feeding with Micro-Grow-Bloom. Everything that I will do relevant in the days of this week I will update it here in Week Comment. I am open to advice, I would be happy if you comment with what you would do in my place. - DAY 52 (25/07) FEEDING I thought of irrigating with some Root Juice to give a little help to the roots, because has grown slowly, I don’t know why. I irrigated 2 liter of water with: - 4ml Root Juice Solution PH: range 6.6/6.9 - DAY 54 (27/07) HELP It's been 13 days since I last fed with the PH Perfect trio of Advanced Nutrients. I need your help to figure out how to get back to feeding. From today I will water with more water to make sure that the roots and the soil are better cleaned by letting the water flow out of the pot. (until now no water flowed into the saucer). I uploaded the photos and video with the rust-colored burns on the older leaves that showed up after first feeding with Micro, Grow and Bloom, and they were accentuated after feeding for the second time. Watering with water alone (and citric acid to correct the PH) does not seem to present any problems. I immediately thought it was an excess of potassium, considering that I have fed 2 times with Micro (2-0-0), Grow (1-0-4) and Bloom (1-3-4) 0.5ml each, this NPK ratio should be around 2-1.5-4. I thought about adjusting the doses in order to increase nitrogen to keep it higher than potassium, and lower potassium while still keeping it higher than phosphorus. Could it be a resolution to my problem? I also thought that it could be an excess of calcium present in Micro (it has 2.4% of calcium and 0.1% of magnesium soluble in water) because according to the analysis of my tap water it seems to already have enough calcium (110 mg/l of calcium. 21mg/l of magnesium) and here arises my fear of increasing the dose of Micro to increase nitrogen and continually encounter excess calcium. Can anyone enlighten me? - DAY 55 (28/07) SLIGHT DEFOLIATION I made a slight defoliation at the bottom. To be precise I removed 2 medium-small leaves and I removed the two smaller popcorn sprigs at the bottom of everything. I sprayed the usual mix of neem oil. (neem oil, water, potassium soap and lemon juice) - DAY 56 (29/07) LST We are at the end of the week. I performed 4-way style LST. Day/night air temperature on average for this week: Day 31-33 °C. Night 22-26 °C.
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CharlieilBrown
CharlieilBrownstarted grow question 2 years ago
I need your advice to get back to feeding. I kindly ask you to read my last comment (27/07) in the diary and take a look at the whole diary. I also uploaded a video. Thank you 🙏
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Leaves. Edges burnt
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NobodysBuds
NobodysBudsanswered grow question 2 years ago
First, it's slow-moving, it's relegated to bottom.. .most of the plant looks fine. it's good you are worried, but adjust it to scale of the problem. you should not feel overly anxious about this. based on some tidbits from diary, may even be caused in part by the irrigation habits. so, it's limted and at bottom of plant -- that's a mobile nutrient and helps us further diagnose the cause. Someties plants shed lowe leaves, too... so if it never ramps up or spreads, i'd not wory about it too much. but does lean toward k-tox of teh various options. but, you ratios aren't bad at 2-1.5-4 130 N 50 P 200 K are my NpK ppm. bcause of different densities, these ratios are a bit different. i don't know their npk versions cause npk values aren't apples to apples and i don't bother with them. 1.6-1-4 would be good for ppm... npk label values are different animal. (Ca 100+ Mg 80+ S 100+ -- these will vary more based on water used) If/when you do the math on the K you added in total, if it is well over 200, it's a prime suspect at that point, assuming the soil has some too... (some tranlating -- i speak from asoilles perspectve.. you may feed highe, but if every 2nd irrigation, it shouldn't be more than double -- over time it still has to match the same plant's metabolism regardless of soil or soilless... can't force feed plants like foie gras) you are in soil.. so if you feed every 2nd or third day, this will be higher, but you'd want to add the same mass of each molecule per week or per month etc (relative to how i explained the ramp u for soil context), so it is similar, still. you could use similar amounts in a daily feed once the plant has sapped what comes with the soil to start... until then it's a balancing act requiring familiarity with the soil's components. a 10-15% runoff when you have fully ramped up your feed will maintain soil EC -- you basically treat it like a soilles grow once those soil amendments are used up. check out what others using nsame products do... do the math using the online calculator.. you've got the tools and some ballpark ideas... start fertilizing again. --------------- some bits from readng diary and more (until now no water flowed into the saucer) -- even in soil, you definitely want "some" runoff... unliles soilless, excess runoff is just leeching anything your soil initially came amended with, so less is more in this context... but you still want some to ensure entire pot gets wet. re-occuringn dry pockets are a potential cause for nute buidup... doesn't guarantee it occus, but creates the opportunity for it to do so. You have soil, so you have to ramp up your dose over time. i've never used that product, so i have no familiarity of how hot it is, etc... search diaries using those products with soil and look over the healthy looking plants and how they progressed. expect some deviations in your garden, but a good ballpark to start. if you feed every time later on, you'll max out at 1.2-1.5 ec as stated before. (600-750ppm). Total ppm is only part of the picture. the ratios of npk et al are important too. you ratios don't look far off but i can't do the math for ppm in my head. you can do that using a manic botanix ppm calculator. too many unknowns with soil to give you a direct answer, and anyone that does is lying to themselves and giving bad info even if it coincidentally works. learn cause and effect to more effectively exptrapolate on you own over time.
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ernest_twwg
ernest_twwgweek 8
It looks like nutrient burn that might be causing a calcium lockout. It could also be a pH problem that isn't letting the plant uptake calcium. If this is the case, get the soil pH down to 6.5 and only use pH'd water to water it for a week or so. Then, reintroduce nutrients. Good luck.
CharlieilBrown
CharlieilBrown
@ernest_twwg, so your opinion seems to agree with my analysis of potassium dosage too high, rather than an excess of calcium. Thank you for the reply! I hope to receive other opinions before returning to fertilize