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I went ahead and topped them all a couple days ago.im going to try and wait a couple weeks to defoliate but I promise nothing.i think they are a little over watered so I'm going to hold off a couple days.this seems to be my biggest problem.they are all looking pretty healthy though.im useing nectar of the gods number 4 soil.all of lights are at 100 percent now.i really do like these grow buckets.im probably going to get another 3 pack