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FL/200W
Light
FL/200W
Light
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks Technique
Defoliation
weeks Technique
Strain
00seeds2 - 00 KUSH
Sour Stomper
Mephisto Genetics
Growing it
Normal
Resistance
Strong
Well I had a rough time with this girl, but it was all my fault. I had ph way off due to ph pen off calibration. I thought it might be nutes but it was the pen. She got cooked. She will end up in butter, at least most of her. I will give a smoke report in a few days. Right now she is hanging to dry. After 3 days I will clean her up and into paper bags for another week or so. Then she will get jarred or right into butter. Update: smoke was very strong. Most buds are very dense and she is very yummy.
The Outcome
Week 9
Harvest
What's on the scales?
33.8
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
Harvested
1
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
0.16
ft²
Grow Room size
0.17
g / watt
211.25
g / m²
33.8
g / plant
6.25
plant / m²
1250
watt / m²
Tastes like
Citrus
Earthy
Pungent
Feels like
50% Sativa 50% Indica

Positive effects

Euphoric
Giggly
Hungry
Nutrients
I don't know what to say. I cooked my plant due to incorrect ph, so I can't blame the nutes. I will do another run with this and try again.
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BeefWellingtons BeefWellingtons
5 years ago
I will come back in a few days and update with weight and smoke report. All I can say is keep your ph pen calibrated. I'm not disappointed in her, she did a good job with what she had. Update: nice flavor and aroma for the smoke. She's packing on the thc, I don't remember a lot after smoking, but pizza was consumed! I split her into two groups, 1 for smoke and 1 for baking goods/butter. She was a trooper.
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Grow Questions
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonsstarted grow question 5 years ago
This stuff smells like hay. I am having the same issue as last dry, buds smell like hay, no smell coming out. What can I do? They are in closed box, 79f (can't get it lower, 44 humidity). They have been in there for 30 hours. How can I bring out the aroma?
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Techniques. Defoliation
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mad_scientist
mad_scientistanswered grow question 5 years ago
Hello @BeefWellingtons ! You don't have to lower your humidity and your temperature is not that bad either ( optimum it would be arround 20°C-22°C and 50%-60% humidity. The aroma will come back after a few days, don't worry and be patient. Happy growing ! 👊
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BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonsweek 9
I have been burping these jars every day for about 15 min. The dank smells are coming back, thank you @mad_scientist! Almost no more hay smell, just yummy nugs. Did another 'smoke test' last night and she is just a dream to smoke. I'm loving the high and the flavor of her. One of the great things about having this much weed is not ever having to burn up an old half smoked bowl (think little ball of weed charcoal). I just dump it and put a new one in there...makes every bong hit super tasty! Now I have to learn how to make extractions!
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonsweek 9
So I found out my ph pen is way off. Tested ph water with drops today and it was at 4, lol. I flushed out 1.5 gallons and put straight tap water which is around 6.7 so it should be in the right range now.
MaryJaneUSA
MaryJaneUSA
@BeefWellingtons, for sure~
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@MaryJaneUSA, nice, I added to my shopping list, thanks for the find!
MaryJaneUSA
MaryJaneUSA
@BeefWellingtons, beef, I got a new ph pen apera ph20 tester... well worth it , you looks look it up. It’s affordable too in my book.
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PharmaZ
PharmaZweek 7
Looking good man, I’d be cutting that silica out it’s probably messing your ph up big time. Silica not good for hydro from what I’ve heard, I’ve had best results in soil. Hands down. If I was using hydro I’d foliar feed till end of stretch then wash the plant with plain water before flower really kicks in just my 2p
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@PharmaZ, this has more K too: growdiaries.com/nutrients/botanicare/silica-blast .50 %, sorry I had an hard time selecting botanicare for silica blast in my diary, but this is what it is. Do you think the same or would this be any different?
PharmaZ
PharmaZ
@BeefWellingtons, all silica product say they strengthen cell walls. The 1 I use is made from potassium silicate which obviously by the name applies a higher % of K to my feed. Once the flowers start to develop they naturally need more K but not in the form of silicate. Especially not in hydro as silicate can react with other forms of potassium and other minerals. Essentially whenever adding silicate you should make sure you add it before all other nutrients and mix well. I have had problems using it myself. Now I only use till the start of flower it’s fine and I can notice a difference of initial development of buds the bud stems form thicker increasing bud production early on. then I switch to a more stable form of K for flower production👍🏼
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@PharmaZ, ok, sounds good. I didn't hear that about silica but I will read up on it. I don't think she's benefiting from it anyhow, so I'll take your advice and stop feeding to her.
CommanderCannabis
CommanderCannabisweek 7
Now those are some nice roots. I've used Hydrogaurd and an enzyme and the seem to have helped because the plant is still healthy but I believe my early problem with the roots may have stunted my plant.
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@CommanderCannabis, yep, that will do it. I have a 450w and for the first few weeks of flowering it was at like 36in. 10in with 600w will cook a plant imo. Also, did you have a fan blowing gently over the top of her, that will help with the heat, but not light burn.
CommanderCannabis
CommanderCannabis
@BeefWellingtons,When i was germinating and growing the seedling i had the 600W LED just 10" from her. I wanted to keep her small because I am trying to test the Grow Chamber prototype first and foremost but I think I had the light to close for too long and that might have kept her small. That's the best theory I can think of. Thanks again for the advice.
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@CommanderCannabis, thanks for the complement, but I have to give it all to the hydroguard. Its quite possible that stunted plants happen due to many stress related issues, including root issues. I stunned one of my first 3 plants as I let her almost die as a seedling, then let the basin run dry. I think most stunting happens early on though. Something wrong happens and they get stunted. My advice, look over your grow and see if you can spot anything that might have caused an issue. Now you know about root maintenance and stuff you can add to help with them. Each grow seems to be easier and easier.
MaryJaneUSA
MaryJaneUSAweek 6
Mate, your roots look 🔥!!!
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@MaryJaneUSA, yeah, I noticed that I didn't add it in last nutrient cycle and it was one of possible issues so I put some in. It could also be that I broke my plant in half?
MaryJaneUSA
MaryJaneUSA
@BeefWellingtons, interesting.. I’ve always had cal mag issues and the middle to end of flowering no matter what I do... may be it’s not even cal mag who knows
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@MaryJaneUSA, she is having issues, but the roots are not one. Gave a little cal-mag today as a last feeding of that, but she is really needing something and I can't put my finger on it.
CommanderCannabis
CommanderCannabisweek 7
I have two fans inside the Grow Chamber along with an inline fan and an exhaust fan. I know that kept her cool but this was my first experience with LEDs and sometimes I have to learn the hard way.
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@CommanderCannabis, hey, that's how we all learn.
MrPlow
MrPlowweek 7
Damn! That Hydroguard really does the trick! Absolutely beautiful root system! And nice looking buds you got there, a shitload of tricomes, everything covered already all the way to the tip of the leafs! Thats gonna grow to be really potent stuff!
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@MrPlow,yeah the buds are super dense for this genetics. And she smells like an armpit. Not only that, my broken main stalk seems to have recovered and is producing buds as well. As for the hydroguard, note my water temp is like 78 or so, but still have white roots, and 0 h202 this time. I'm sold on it.
Tazard
Tazardweek 7
She looks great!!! Nice crisp, white roots.
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@Tazard,yeah, just wish she wasn't being cooked right now, but I'm definitely happy about the roots
Tazard
Tazardweek 4
Give this a try. Get enough water (58-68F) pH it to 5.8 and run this for 12 hours while light is on. Then refil reservoir with a nutrient solution pH at 5.6 with a maximum EC of 1.5 (750ppm). After the nute solution has been in the system for 1 hr check the pH and adjust to 5.6. If possible check the pH every 6 hours, if not then do twice a day (morning and night) at the very minimum. If it’s outside of 5.5-6.2 when you check then you aren’t checking it enough. In veg and early flowering pH will rise as they use nitrogen so adjust to the lower end of 5.6. In mid-late flower as they use potassium the pH will fall so adjust to the higher end of 5.8 this gives us a little more time in the desired range. Phew hope that helped. Just remember 750ppm 1.5EC max includes the starting tds too.
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@Tazard, I will have to get some RO water for that. But I have to say, I actually think she bounced back after yesterday's feed and the new light. She looks much better! I would have to use RO water for all feeds to get ppm down to 750, as I am not even giving 1/2 nutes. What I will do is get a bunch of water and at least bring the ppm down by replacing 1 gallon (3+ gallon basin). If that doesn't work I will do your flush job as posted. Thank you @Tazard for your help. I'm going to remember this one for next time too.
JemGreen
JemGreenweek 1
This is going to be great! I'm keen to see your Sour Stomper grow.
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@JemGreen, I just put this girl into the basin and she's at a standstill, not sure if its lights/distance, nutes, heat, ph of water, or something else. Hoping she continues with her growth soon.
Tazard
Tazardweek 9
So sorry. I feel your pains.
Tazard
Tazardweek 8
Sorry to hear about the burn.
BoredSangheili
BoredSangheiliweek 5
Hydroguard is bae
Cultus
Cultusweek 3
Don't give up on her. Give her a chance and she will recover. I am constantly amazed at how resilient these plants are. Good luck with the frozen bottles, if you are able to keep swapping them out it should make a big difference! Good luck!
Silky_smooth
Silky_smoothweek 2
Good luck with youre hydro grow 😉🍀
JemGreen
JemGreenweek 7
My apologies if you have put this down anywhere but I couldn't find it. What size is this grow space? Also, please could you try get photos showing it as a whole. I'm trying to figure out how much space a single auto generally take up and it'd help a lot :)
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@JemGreen, Dimensions are 18” wide, 24” deep and 30” high. My first grow will show better pics, and remember all top colas had to be supercropped as they grew over the top of the big cfl light. I would not suggest this size, get something that is at least 4ft in height, if not 5 imo. I will post new pics tomorrow when I update my grow.
MaryJaneUSA
MaryJaneUSAweek 3
Nice roots!! Try b52 by advanced nutes for recovery.
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@MaryJaneUSA, I'll have to look into it.
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonsweek 4
Going out to get RO water today. Basin was at 7.0, ph down to 5.6. Removed the tin foil hats. 24 hours into new basin and light and she is loving it, but temps are high in basin (79f). Going to get more water bottles to start a regiment of cooling.
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@MaryJaneUSA, yeah, that's a good idea. I'm heading to a hardware store tomorrow and I'll see what I can drum up. I'm sure I can Frankenstein something for the bucket installation. Thanks.
MaryJaneUSA
MaryJaneUSA
@BeefWellingtons, even if you can insulate you’re bucket, I would. Water bottles at your temp will last may be about 2 hours at the most (I tried) but with insulation, it should last you much longer. Also try looking into more ph stable nutrients. 79F is pretty good for beneficial microbes to thrive. I think your main problem was ph. I have 3 hydro that have tent temp around 80-83F and bucket temp around 78-79 without any cooling but it’s thriving so well and I believe it’s from beneficial microbes. Roots became brown but didn’t have any root rot issues.
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonsweek 9
These flowers have been burped for a month, just moved them into a bigger jar with boveda %62 moisture bags.
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonsweek 9
All Jarred up for curing, will probably burp these twice a day, with at least once dumping them out and waiting 15 min, then back in jars. I'll do that for a week or so and the just burp by opening for 15 min or so, and I'll do that for 2 weeks. At some point I will add 62% boveda packs, probably next week sometime.