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Trials, Success, And Failures of a 1st

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LED/150W
Light
LED/400W
Light
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks Technique
Topping
weeks Technique
Main-Lining
weeks Technique
Defoliation
weeks Technique
Soil
Grow medium
Strain
00seeds2 - 00 KUSH
Super Silver Haze
Crop King Seeds
Growing it
Normal
Resistance
Neutral
I don't feel it's fair to CKS and Super Silver Haze for me to rate the growing or disease resistance. This was my first grow and I had some issues with power, temp, humidity, and I don't think it's fair to have my inexperience and mistakes weight in on this strain/breeder reputation. I'll be growing this again as I feel this first time around wan't a good representation of the genetics and the little sample we have tried of the end product is nice. ***UPDATE*** When she first came off it felt a little weak and "tame".... not sure how to describe it, but we weren't very pleased with it. Might have been a factor of us having to mess with her in the end chopping cola's to keep the bud rot at bay... We didn't smoke her for several weeks as we had a lot of the white cookies from the same harvest and it was a nicer smoke at the time. BUT!!! she cured for a month with boveda packs in the jars and now the bud it AWESOME! It's a very nice smoke, very energetic and extremely nice to work/chore/game with. I can see why this strain has a good reputation and why it won some awards (according to CKS). We've had a few big stoner friends over in the last week and they loved it, went and hit it the next morning to try it first thing on it's own and were even more impressed the next day with it. I'd definitely recommend this strain, we like it a lot and it's got very good reviews from numerous pot heads friends of ours. One side note, don't smoke it to late, it does give insomnia to most people, but that's part of the energetic high. We will be definitely be growing this again when our supply of it starts to get low.
The Outcome
Week 25
Harvest
What's on the scales?
167
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
What's on the scales?
887
gram
ounce
Bud wet weight
Harvested
1
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
0.74
ft²
Grow Room size
0.42
g / watt
225.68
g / m²
167
g / plant
1.35
plant / m²
540.54
watt / m²
Tastes like
Flowery
Pungent
Sweet
Feels like
80% Sativa 20% Indica

Positive effects

Creative
Energetic
Euphoric

Negative effects

Insomnia
Nutrients
The nutes seems ok, don't have anything to reference them against.
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NomNom NomNom
5 years ago
Bud Rot Bud Rot Bud Rot. Kept throwing out more and more cola’s buds all the way through flowering and drying. Cranked the temp up the last couple weeks to try and fight the bud rot, got some fox-tailing happening from the increased heat. The breakdown is like this. Early cut to remove bud rot – some colas had clean buds and I ended up keeping 3 oz (about 85g) Actual harvest day – Big SSH Girl – 887 g wet and 167 g dry SSH Clone 1 - 235 g wet and 47 g dry SSH Clone 2 – 140 g wet and 25 g dry Total harvest day – 1262 g wet and 239 g dry (8.5 oz) *we tossed a bunch as we jarred it due to mold Total Dry Weight = 324 g (11.5 oz) This was my first grow of MJ and my first time trying to grow inside and with bottled nutes. It’s been a lot of work making the room… setting it up, heating, cooling, lighting, humidity, and airflow. The SSH grew me some HUGE cola’s, however they got bud rot. Our biggest cola we weight wet (before throwing it away due to rot) was 80g. She grew big, fat, dense buds but we flew too close to the sun and the bud rot got us. Like everyone I had grand ideas how awesome this grow could be. But I tried to keep myself grounded and kept telling myself that I needed to be realistic for a first grow and that if I achieve 8 oz total from the tent (all the plants White Cookies and Super Silver Haze) it would be good successful for a first grow. I knew there would be mistakes, issues, and problems that I’d have to face as almost everyone does during their first grow. In the end I had to toss away over ½ the plant due to bud rot. All of the big large colas were affected, the smaller ones were the ones less affected and made it to the end. In the 4x4 tent I had 4 fan, three 8” oscillating and 1 static 6” fan. I had a 6” venting fan pulling from the top, A/C, heat at night, and a 70 pint dehumidifier. But one of the big problems was the grow room didn’t have enough power from the breaker panel and on the hot days the A/C would trip the circuit breaker. This would cause the heat and humidity to spike, the tent fans to turn off, and everything to go into the very bad extremes. This is most likely what started/caused the bud rot. Because it was a lack of power that was causing the issue it wasn’t a quick or easy fix. You can’t just put a larger breaker in because the wire run can’t handle the increased power, it’d burn down the room. Adding to the issue was that the breaker panel was full so adding another breaker wasn’t an easy option. A new breaker panel would need to be installed first and then new power lines run to the room. The project to upgrade the electrical capacity of the room ended up taking over a month. But that time was the critical flower month as power draw wasn't such an issue during vegging when we had smaller lights and better weather. I'm not going to lie, I felt very down and frustrated with this grow at points. It took a long time, I had many many issues, and the bud rot was like getting kicked in the gut over and over again as I had to continually throw away big fat colas every day or two. I was close to throwing in the towel several times on this grow but I persevered and have been rewarded in the end. DON"T GIVE UP!!! KEEP ON GROWING.... They say experience is expensive and they aren’t wrong. This first grow has been expensive in every way…. time, money, stress, frustration, yield, etc, etc…
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Grow Questions
NomNom
NomNomstarted grow question 5 years ago
Yellow in the leaves, I've been feeding until runoff on a Sun - Tues - Thurs and just letting it sit in-between. Feeding with a 1.8 EC solution and my runoff starts at 800ppm and then drops down to 500 by the time it's finished. Increase nutes? nutes every day? do nothing?or???
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Athos
Athosanswered grow question 5 years ago
Don't raise the EC. Even 1.8 is might be too much for soil. Your leaves are showing signs of over dose (burnt tips and raised edges). In soil you want to feed once every 7 to 10 days, not every 2 days and specially not everyday. Unless you tap water is too soft (say EC below 0,3), there's no need for calimagic and even if you needed a little extra, there's enough in floranova grow. The yellowing is normal at this stage.
NomNom
NomNomstarted grow question 5 years ago
My girls all have very close buds on the cola's, they are packed one on top off the other, big and dense. This caused air flow issues and helped to fester the bud rot. Is there a way I can encourage more stretch in the plant? especially in the cola's?
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Other. Harvest - Drying
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The_Projexx
The_Projexxanswered grow question 5 years ago
You can do a couple of things here in order to help facilitate the fight . You can raise your light higher then the recommended height this will promote the plants to stretch a little further in order for them to get the light they need , but in the end this method is just going to buy you a little more time not really fix the problem , You can lower the output on your light if thats an option but again this will encourage a stretch but will only buy you time not really a permanent fix . What you really wanna do is be able to encourage air flow throughout all your plants so you can simply add some more fans to help with this you can also take away any big big leaves this will also help promote air circulation throughout your plant aiding in the fight against bud rut but the very very best solution you can use to fight this off is lower you're humidity to as low as humanly possible if you can get it lower then 30% you are very likely never going to run into bud rot or mould issues in your grows , not only will it ensure that you don't get mould or bud rot but your plant will produce even more oils crystals and rezin for you ! Thats pretty much the ultimate fix for this problem is to get your humidity as low as you can get it . If your having trouble getting it down I might suggest you get a small dehumidifier with a good sized tank so your not always in there emptying it . This way you can ensure your crops safety vs those 2 tragic crop destroyers :( . Over all I can see your plants are nice and healthy you just got a few things to adjust if your scared that mould and bod rott are going to be an issue other wise you're rocking and rolling getting ready to get that tasty medicine ! I hope this information helps you on your journey to the finish line ! -Happy Growing!
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NomNom
NomNomweek 1
Thanks, just trying to keep it simple and realistic for a first grow. Good luck on your first grow, you're luck to have a friend to get information and plants from.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 25
Congratulation, first grow and in the Top 10 !!!
NomNom
NomNom
@Mrs_Larimar,Thanks so much, I really didn't expect it with so many good diaries competing.
DadasGrow
DadasGrowweek 1
Hope all goes well with your first grow! I’m on my first also!
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonsweek 23
I know it may sound a little weird, but can you post a couple of pics of your bud rot? I'm just curious what you are talking about. Each time I see it, it looks different.
NomNom
NomNom
@BeefWellingtons, This is my first grow and my first time trying to grow in a room/tent. Heat, cold, humidity, and airflow have all been learning experiences on this one. I have lots of experience with a regular vegetable garden, but nothing like this. Inside the tent I have 4 8" oscillating fans that run 24/7 (2 above the canopy and 2 below the canopy). They have been there since the start of flowering. I have good air movement in the tent, and we lost a lot of buds that were directly in front of the fans, so I don't think it was the air movement issue. I also bought a 70 pint dehumidifier that sits in the room (100 sq.ft. room). It's been there since the start of flowering, but it was set to 40% rh and although the room was reading around 45% once I had rot I moved the temp/humidity sensor in the tent and in the tent it was 50-55% rh. So I sent the dehumidifier to constantly on, now the room sits around 35-40% rh and inside the tent is 40-50% rh. I did have a few nights that got down to 61f (16c) and I had some issues with the room not having enough power and the breaker got tripped off. That resulted in all the power, fans, dehumidifier, lights, etc, all going off and the humidity climbed to 70+%. The last 5 weeks has been wiring in some new plugs and rewiring a couple old ones, now the room should have more then enough power. It was a big job because the breaker panel was full and I had to get a new breaker panel installed in order to run 4 new breakers into the room. Now they are on 12/2 wire with 20a breakers and all the major draw items have their own separate breaker so they shouldn't trip anymore. That just got finished on Sunday. It's not a complete mystery why I have the bud rot, I know the factors that lead to it happening. But what I didn't know is that the lights + dehumidifier + A/C or heater = not enough power and breaker tripping. I didn't do a power consumption tally when I first set up the room, nor did I realize just how much power this was going to need. I'm addressing the issues as I discover them but it takes time and $$$ to address them.... more $$$ then I thought it would. And I like to understand whats going wrong rather then have a knee jerk reaction that might not be right. Next on the plan is to install a subfloor and vinyl flooring in the room (it's concrete right now) to help clean it up and get the cold floor out of the equation for the winter season. Right now the bottom 18" of the room is significantly colder then the top of the room. I installed a ceiling fan last weekend and that's helping to mix the air but a proper floor will help. Then I'm working on trying to figure out a room ventilation flow control system. Right now the temp swings are tough to manage while having enough ventilation for the tent. I've got it now so that it'll stay 68F to 83F (20-28C) but it's really power intensive and sometimes drips or above a bit. I have an idea how to make it better but I need to find the pieces to make it happen.
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtons
@NomNom, whoa. Thanks for those. Can you get another fan? How about those dehumidifier hang bags? Those are the only two suggestions I have for that. I didn't think you could get bud rot with 42 humidity? Seems like more air circulation would do the trick, no?
NomNom
NomNom
@BeefWellingtons, I pulled a couple cola's last night due to bud rot. I took some pictures for you. The last 3 pictures on week 24.
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ScotlandHaze
ScotlandHazeweek 20
Wow! Looking great! How do you get such fat bud sites? Is this down to strain? Im on my first grow, I'm using led lights and im just wondering if thats my issue as my buds are pretty slim in comparison.
ScotlandHaze
ScotlandHaze
@NomNom, Ahh I was looking at the quantum boards but they were fairly new so not much research I could do, wish I gave them a shot! Your plant is how I pictured mine to look like before I started haha! Excited to see the outcome for ya! Thank you very much! Im glad I went with Barneys farm for my first grow,It's been a breeze so far! All the best 😊
NomNom
NomNom
@ScotlandHaze, Hi and thanks, this is my first grow so I don't really know why they are short and fat. The only other grow on there that is running this strain has the plant as much more leggy (growdiaries.com/diaries/19202-super-silver-haze-first-grow). I'm running LED lights too, I'm running the quantum LED's and they put out an insane amount of light, I had to turn them down. I veg with the cheap blurple LED and then made the quantum LED for flower. My husband gives me shit for the fat colas, he looks at all the other grows on here and is saying I'm doing it wrong because our colas are short, fat, and super dense. He thinks it's better to have them long and slim. As far as I know I might be the one f-king up my colas.... BTW I looked at your grow and it looks awesome. I just ordered some seeds from Barney's Farm, I'll be following your grow.
BEZPVD
BEZPVDweek 20
15 weeks vegetation it's so long bro. I hope you will get what you want.
NomNom
NomNom
@BEZPVD, ya but now I have a 15 week veg from seed with 16 nodes, a 11 week veg from cut clone with 8 nodes, and 5 week veg cut clone with 1 main and 4 subs. All the same genetics all the same lights, all the same nutes. It's my first grow I'm learning and I'm experimenting. Having the veg times staggered and measuring the harvest amount will help me understand.
The_Projexx
The_Projexxweek 25
Looking tasty !! It's almost that time !!!! :D :D :D Sending your ladies lots of positive vibes so they cross the finish line in style ! <3 -Happy Growing!
ChefDan420
ChefDan420week 24
SSH a great strain good luck 👍🏼