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I belive these are around 60 days so a couple weeks left to go. I have 2 phenos in these 4 plants, 2 of them are taller producing decent buds with normal fan leaves. The other 2 plants are shorter have some mutations, and all of their fan leaves are 3 finger darker green and just odd looking. The bud production on those are next to nothing. Over all not super happy with any of the 4 plants. I'll strip them down pretty bare over the next few days for the last couple weeks they have have left.