Done topping and they are vegging hard core, so instarted training on the net a bit. After I spread them out a bit, I will allow a little upward veg then it's time to flip to flower!
@Pjm70, Thank you! The reson is looks so low, is because I put build a soil and the mulch on top which brought the soil level up. It was my intent though, once it got a little developed I could have the 1st set of branches pretty much at soil level.