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19 L
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Week 2
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18 hrs
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Michigander Michigander
6 years ago
Day 8 watering is definitely raising the humidity levels - considering fresh air intake, but concerned about the effect on temperatures - other option is to put humidifier on light timer or turn it off altogether - no signs of sex yet, unless they are all showing female spiking, but my knowledge is too scant to be sure yet - transplanted PH4,5 and 6 into 3gal cloth pots - watered with diluted nutrient water ph6.0 - humidity rose to 64% - turned humidifier off and temp down a notch as it hit 84f - PM 58% 75f Day 9 AM 60% 73f - learned a lot about VPD today - decided to set a target of 65-70% humidity and 74-76f temp target for veg phase adjusted temp and using humidifier on low - topped PH1 today and it is not showing any signs of stress after 8 hours - watered seedlings and finished off nute water on larger plants - discoloring of lowest leaf to yellow seems to have stoppped, but still unsure as it has not spread - rare spots of burn on some leaves so I am going to stick with lower ph water only for the next few days - possible sulphur issue, which can only be flushed away so I feel this is the best route to go for now - PM 66% 73f Day 10 AM 63% 75f - topped PH2 and 3 - no water day 1 - transplanted PH7,8 and 9 collectively into 1 5gal cloth pot under my original veg light separate from the 2x600w - transplanted Skunk 1 into a 3gal cloth pot - no shock showing on PH plants but Skunk withered significantly (it had the smallest/weakest root ball) - PM 66% 76f Day 11 AM 65% 75f - transplant shock gone from skunk - could not resist and watered all with 1 gal molasses water - began LST training on PH 1,2 and 3, just edging them towards the edge of the pot - ran higher RH today (70-75%) and balanced temps as best I could at 75f, but more fans are needed - temps using IR were +/- 2 degrees of room, but triple pot was running 3-4 degrees below room temp, needing more circulation - topped plants are all showing new dual tops forming well - PM 65% 75f Day 12 AM 65% 75f - LSTd PH7,8 and 9 'just' for the day, producing a slight bend and exposing the lower branches - only PH3 has starter leave sets underneath atm - adjusted PH1,2 and 3 LST - PH1 is showing tremendous secondary branching already - leaf temps were running 71f-73f so I raised the room temp to 77, which lifted leaf temps to 75f-77f - sparsley watered a few with 1/2 gal ph 5.5 water - ran 70% humidity for half the day - PM 71% 77f Day 13 AM 61% 77f - running 70-75% humidity during day again - topped PH5&6 - LST on PH1,2,3,7,8,9 - minor leaf manipulation on PH4,5,6 and Skunk1 - IR temps were 76-77f thru day - watered all with 1 gal ph 6 nute water (1TBL Big Bloom & 1tsp Grow Big - foxfarms) - sealed room more - flipped on the red bloom lights to see if it helps stretch lower branches up faster - PM 75% 77f Day 14 AM 68% 77f - no water - adjusted lst and manipulated leaves as needed - topped PH7 - slowly bringing temp down as it keeps rising (red lights?) - PM 70% 77f
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Grow Questions
Michigander
Michiganderstarted grow question 6 years ago
I do not feel very sure that the 'supposed' 65 days of flower info I found on the internet is my target. These are bag seeds, so I do not know it's genetic line or original breeder. When do you recommend I harvest my Purple Haze plants?
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amazongrow
amazongrowanswered grow question 6 years ago
Looking at your grow conditions and without seeing a microscope picture of the trichomes, I would say you give them a last light feed on the week 9 of flower and start flushing by week 10, aiming at 20-30% runoff each time, for 1 or 2 weeks, so they can ripe those buds even more. Keep an eye on the buds and trichomes as the leaves yellow, for they can be ready before you finish flushing. Take a note on the smell too, it's a good indicator, as it starts to decrease, they are ready. In the last week the smell should be 3x, 4x times stronger and then it starts to turn to a more fermented scent, with lower intensity. Got that from a Ed Rosenthal book and it's a true thing. Have fun growing! Tchau, do Brazil! =) ,
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Athos
Athosanswered grow question 6 years ago
8 to 10 weeks of flower is where most strains are ready. in absence of a microscope / jewelers loupe, the calyxes swelling and hairs going red is a good sign of the plant been ready.
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Thee_HoffGuyy
Thee_HoffGuyyanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hey there! So the only way to know when your plants are at peak ripeness, is to use a pocket microscope or jewelers loupe to look at the trichomes (crystals) on the buds. What you want to look for is Cloudy/milky trichomes that is when they are at peak resin production. there are 3 stages of the trichomes life, Clear-to early don't harvest yet Milky/Cloudy-peak production and amber- it is past peak and the THC oxidizes into CBN and can produce somewhat of a fake couch lock feeling. So it best to harvest when it is as close to 100% cloudy but that is very hard to do so some people go a little on the early side and chop at like 90-95% cloudy and 5-10% clear. Some people go a little longer and the the same but with 5-10% amber and sometimes if you wanting a more couchlock like feeling some folks will go 30% amber it up to you on that part of when but as long as you get almost all of them when cloudy your good👍 Happy Growing!!
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Michigander
Michigandercommentedweek 126 years ago
It's amazing what you learn as you grow. Reflecting back I even see lessons I learned slowly (as I had zero patience) and some that just came naturally, like defoliation. I wrote a blog post about 'How to Germinate and start a seedling." I had forgotten about it and re-read it the other day. I was clueless, giving out stupid advice and I was pretty good at documenting my complete lack of know how. 😀 As I near my first harvest, I'm still inpatient and excited. I'm constantly re-checking other diaries, videos, blogs on the matter, to make sure I choose the right time to harvest. I'm thankful that I found Growdiaries too, as it's been the best source of comparisons to what I'm actually doing on the internet, IMHO. 👍
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommented6 years ago
@Michigander, Its like i said, from this point , you can do things only the right way. ( there is no chance to mess it up now<------Ironic)
Michigander
Michigandercommentedweek 136 years ago
Trichomes are running 5-15% amber, depending on the plant. Pistils are around 70-90% brown.
Michigander
Michigandercommented6 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, I love that site. It has the best articles. Surprised I had not found that one, but it's perfect. Stages of harvest sound like a good idea, as the lower canopies are not returning the same trichome results and seem about a week behind the tops. It's not an issue to stage it, since the Triplnt is already about 3 weeks behind the others. I'll take my time. It would be a good opportunity to test the variety of effect from low and high amber trichome effects in a sativa dominant plant. I already know what the immature tester buds are like. hehe ;)
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommented6 years ago
@Michigander, and here the promised link to the site.....https://www.growweedeasy.com/ready-for-harvest-pictures And after looking again i would say 5-8 more days..... because its 25 degree, and so the plants maturate faster If you are unsure, you can harvest in stages, at first the ready parts and later the rest of it
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 86 years ago
After looking into your diary im pretty impressed. Very nice and Detailed. And well prepared. You are sure its your First Grow=? ( Joking) well done. and pls tag me in your next grow.
Michigander
Michigandercommented6 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, thank you. Yea, it's really my first grow. I've been researching and debating starting this for years and after it was legalized, I jumped in. I started taking notes long before I found growdiaries. I was intentionally trying to learn as much as I could and wanted to be able to track problem down. I had no clue it was so appropriate. :) Plus, an older friend wanted to grow their first plant this year and I hoped notes would help them.
Michigander
Michigandercommentedweek 86 years ago
I found a few hermie seeds this week and decided to keep and quarantine the plant. I suppose it's the luck of the draw with bag seed. Anyone else have hermie's documented in their diaries? How did you deal with them?
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommented6 years ago
@Michigander, I had a hermie, i just took away the pollensacks( around 5 times) after that she showed only female organs. Normally its better to separate them. but i had no place , so she stayed where she was and made no more trouble. But if you see it to late you have a lot of seeds... so i let them grow
Michigander
Michigandercommentedweek 16 years ago
I forgot to mention - the day numbering is based on when I determined vegetation to have started. ie: the day I transplanted my first seedling into a larger pot. There were actually 18 days of germination/seedling growth, before this diary started. Of the 9 plants, one is in a 5 gallon cloth pot (PH1) 5 are in 3 gal cloth pots(PH2-6) and one 5 gallong cloth pot has 3 of the 9 plants in it, which I have coined 'Triplnt.'
Thee_HoffGuyy
Thee_HoffGuyycommentedweek 136 years ago
They look awesome Great job on the grow👍👊 Hope you have a good harvest!! Happy Growing an Plentiful Harvests🙏
GoldenGreen
GoldenGreencommentedweek 16 years ago
Good luck with your first grow!
NOLOGIK
NOLOGIKcommentedweek 136 years ago
hi can i know the brand of your led? very beautiful
Michigander
Michigandercommented6 years ago
@NOLOGIK, okay, I own both types and I am using them on separate grows/areas and here is what I am noticing. The budget Blurple LEDs work fine, but they are very low powered for what they say they are. If it says 600w, I would consider it is actually only about 25% of that in equivalency. The 600w Blurple LEDs I have are setup with 2 in a 3x3 grow tent. They performed INCREDIBLY for vegetation phase, but seem to be under-powered for the bloom phase. LUX is in the 15k range at 12". I have another budget 1200w Blurple in a second area, 2x3 ft. It is almost done with a 4 month grow and it is performing VERY well. Huge buds! The doubling in intensity from the single light is noticeably showing. It's the PH1 plant in this grow. I love this light and it covers the area perfectly and has decent LUX. (40,000k) I use a freebie LUX meter app on my phone. My third area has my PH2-6 plants and the Triplnt. In a 3x5ft area I have two budget 1200w COB LED lights (4x300w COBs in each). The performance is beyond my expectations and I am very pleased. These are my favorite lights. The LUX on them runs 40,000-50,000 and the penetration below the canopy is superior. I did use the 2x600w Blruple LEDs to veg these plants. So, from what I have learned in the past 4 months for the home grower: 1. Don't waste money on the $500 name brand lights (I spent less than that for all my 6 of my different grow lights combined) 2. Budget Blurple lights need to be 12-18" from your plants, reducing their effective area - so use them for smaller grows or use 2-4 of them to cover a larger area. 3. Budget COB LEDs cost a bit more, but they can cover a much larger area as they don't need to be so close. They also put off more heat than the Blurples, so they work as a heat source in the cold winter months. If you only want to grow 2 plants at a time, a budget Blurple LED of at least 900watts. If you want to grow 4 plants, get three or more Blurples (600w each, or more) and stagger them. If you want to grow more than that, focus on COB LEDs of 1200w or more. My friend uses 4 1500w COBs in a 5x5 tent with amazing results. As an FYI, I just ordered myself another 2foot long 600w COB LED with 3 COBs in it, all in a row. I am going to add it to my 3x3 tent in between the two 600w Blurple LED lights - which I am keeping. It is the Gorillagasm grow in my diaries if you want to see how it is doing so far with just the 2x600w Blurples. I'm adding the light because in comparison, the buds seem a little smaller than my COB grow was at this stage in bloom. I do like and see the benefit of the red light spectrum, plus I really like the idea of the UV and IR lights they have to prevent bacteria and other nastiness. If you go Blurple - pick a high wattage reading. Do not be concerned about the ones with or without the veg/bloom switches - it does not change much other than how much light it puts out. If you go COB, consider a cheapo blurple as a supplement light along side it.
NOLOGIK
NOLOGIKcommented6 years ago
@Michigander, Hi I was seeing your list I can ask you how do these cob lights work? how many harvests have you already done? ke your impressions if they are worth and special lights for cultivation, and all you can tell me ... because I am also looking for led lights, but the market and my thoughts are making me increase my doubts !!!! thank you very much and sorry for too many questions!
NOLOGIK
NOLOGIKcommented6 years ago
@Michigander, thanks
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growdoctordc
growdoctordccommentedweek 136 years ago
Your title says “Purple Haze - First Grow” Please clarify if you mean your first purple haze grow, and you are already a skilled grower. Or, is this your first grow ever, and you’re growing purple haze?
Michigander
Michigandercommented6 years ago
@growdoctordc, thanks, I think. I'm just trying to do my best and learning as I go.
growdoctordc
growdoctordccommented6 years ago
@Michigander, 3000w? ID sticks in perfectly manifolded plants? You are either the most brilliantly gifted newbie ever, or you’re kidding us
Michigander
Michigandercommented6 years ago
@growdoctordc, first grow ever, period. I used bag seed that I was told was Purple Haze.
amazongrow
amazongrowcommentedweek 136 years ago
Hey bro, nice ladies. I will be following along to see how they finish. Have fun! Im also starting a diary growing a NL from Sensi Seeds, you're welcome to visit us. =)
Michigander
Michigandercommentedweek 16 years ago
This grow is actually 9 plants, all Purple Haze bag seed. It's my first grow and I'm learning as I go. I also want to be able to experiment with different techniques, temps and timing. This is a soil grow and I used Scott's potting soil. I have Fox Farm nutrients and some Sweet Berry from Botanicare. I've been acquiring bits and pieces for growing and have and will expand my growing abilities and equipment, as I learn more. After, I've selected 3 different drying and curing methods to attempt. Traditional, dry, jar, burp. Deep freezing and COBs. I'm all in. So, why not?
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommented6 years ago
@Michigander, These are interesting facts , that should be into your diary ( next time). because if problems appear, the more informations the better