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so we are at week 18 or 19 my last diary fucked out on me so i had to start a new one. super bummed the abc is def a boy i am trying to pop more seeds only one has popped wish me luck i really need these cbd euphoria to grow
week 21 now for sweetpea my biggest girl. probs 19 or 20 for the other girl and i lost my sour daddy auto. the damn cat dug it up. trying to pop more seeds this week wish me luck
week 22 and they are deep into preflower so have started feeding them bloom nutes they aren't getting any taller just more and more pistols we are nearly at the home stretch!
stay tuned for the close up tricome spam peoples this is the fun part!!! 5 long months ive been loving my girls and now i get to see them flourish! !! using budright on them
if anyone can help im losing sugar leaves and fan leaves ive tried treating with a few different pest treatments plus sulphur maganese magnesium etc not sure if its helping im scared im gonna lose them right at the end def think growth is stunted what the hell can i do????? the soil is full of bloody ants too i swear i never had any of this drama when i grew in the winter
week 28 and my poor girls survived a big storm last night! i did have to run out and save them at one point because they had been knocked over by the wind! they weigh around 30 kilos each so must have been a big gust! they seem ok this morning just a bit waterlogged ive shaken as much water off as i could and theres an ok breeze so hopefully they are ok. i also gave them a folair spray of cannaboost accelerator just before the storm and i might have given too much to sweetpea as there is a little browning but i think she will be ok. sooo many bud sites ay. she is covered all along the stems obviously very sativa dominate plants i reckon 60 -70%. which is great as i love an active high. checking them more frequently now i love this stage. hoping to see more fresh white pistols by the end of the week and more trichomes
week 29 for my sativa girls 4 more weeks to go! well hopefully! i saw a shit load of fresh white pistols appearing this week and these babies are loaded up! i am gonna be super duper patient and hopefully get a fantastic yeild off these girls.
lots of pistol browning and more pink then white now wondering if ill get another fresh round of white pistols. still 3 weeks to go, trichomes and smell has increased this past week. lots of fresh yellowing on the leaves too.
well we are still going. i have given the girls nutes and molasses this week and i dont know for sure if im getting a few seeds or if they are swelling with resin but either way they are getting smoked. ive treated the pests best i can just gotta keep my fingers crossed its enough. the smaller one is def stronger, mind you i didnt really give her any lst. the bigger one had a stem split at the base weeks ago so that didnt help. the smaller ones colas are fatter and way denser, dunno if maybe shes just showing her indo side more then the other one or just less stress. i will report on how she smokes in a few days not expecting much as they arent ready.
had to cut a few branches that deteriorated overnight for some godly reason really hope there is no more i need to cut before harvest my huge yeild is going to shit! i am really babying these gurls now
update ok so i removed the scale by hand as best i could and have given a folair feed of charlie carp fingers and toes crossed guys!
update easter monday - sweetpea is still really struggling, watching her closely if she keeps dying (lost another branch) im just gonna have to harvest. serena is doing great, fat solid nugs and more and more trics at least ive got one good plant
i think this is 12 weeks in flower for this girl named serena. ive seen an increase in density and trics this week, was hoping to harvest but i reckon ill give her one more week to reach her full potential
have not tried what i just cut but we have smoked some we cut 4 or 5 weeks ago and its actually quite good. mellow but if you smoke to much there is def moments of anxiety. smooth to smoke but the flavour is effected by the amount of leaves unfortunately. i will weigh it once its all dry but i have to say even though she looks like shit and not that many trics i was pleasently surprised at the potency
not bad for bush. trying to pop some skunk #1 fem autos for winter. will start a new diary once i pop em all up ive got roughly 400 grams still to make edibles and oil and smoke happy days
ok i just had a really close inspection and found more mealy bugs and scale. i think that is def the problem obviously that pytethyium aint doing shit i def need to try something else. any ideas??
@melly, try using predator insects like ladybugs, lacewing and the Mealybug Destroyer (Cryptolaemus montrouzieri) , just buy some and put it on your plant, should control and defeat the mealy bugs
yeah ive had mind in quite an open spot very exposed to wind so the stems are loke wood all the way to the top! they have coped really well with the extream heat and humidity too
@Lindsay420,
Not much different in South Africa. After like a month of constant high temps with the occasional random thunderstorm with gale force winds or so, we had almost a week of continuous rain...
To be fair, it seems to make for freakishly strong plants. Got some 3m+ monsters (without much space even) that are still in early flowering. It might even be because of all the uranium, because I do have a few mutant plants feeding on the excess nitrogen oxides in the area.
@melly,
Yeah, I've made a bunch of mistakes and experienced a lot of different problems throughout this grow and it's been interesting looking at your plants too, since your climate is fairly similar to here, shit, even your plants looked similar to some of mine. So that's a lot of useful/valuable information and experience.
Watch out for sudden cold/humidity (especially with low rain/watering, somewhat strangely), mildew loves that, it kinda fucked up my one plant, like if the plants are used to nice heat they can't deal with that. Every time the plants were stressed heavily (too much rain, too little rain, too hot, too cold, etc) they picked up some pests/problems soon after.
I would certainly recommend defoliation (and maybe strategic pruning, like you say, topping perhaps) though. Those older/dead leaves, when they're dried and then get wet again just cause trouble. They can hold a lot of moisture in bad spots, perfect for mould/rot crap. LST I would only do if it's actually necessary or would help the plant (say, less bunching or crowding) Mainlining, HST etc I generally would stay far away from due to the already stressful conditions.
I've harvested 20/24 plants so far, not completely, since I want them to reveg if possible (some are already revegging, btw) and they're all still going (a few look like they're dying though), but yeah the colours are really strange now. Very colourful, purples mixed with green from new growth, typical gold/orange features, etc.
yeah ive certainly learned a lot from this grow thats for sure. ill be doing some thing different next time! im thinking maybe theres so many leaves because i lost the fan leaves from pests. ive made so many mistakes but hoping my new grow will be more successful. my good plant while not perfect at least has really dense solid nugs so im excited to finally try her when shes ready. im gonna go easier on the lst next time, way more careful with nutes and pesticides and i will keep a closer eye on pests too. think i might get some auto fems going for the next grow, less time growing for me to kill them lol
@melly,
Yeah I'm hoping my new batches are sort of like autoflowers (at least just shorter growing period), but they're going to be growing through winter (which I guess, like Aus, is pretty warm still) so I'm not expecting much.
Autos are REALLY easy to grow and you generally don't need more than 10-25l pots for them since they just won't grow for long enough to get large enough. My friend has some nice autos, one with incredibly deep pink/red pistils., they're doing great, and he's also a total noob.
i really hope its only gonna be a few more weeks! there is def more green and less yellow and the dying off seems to have slowed right down. its one way to get rid of sugar leaves i guess lol. they are def getting super sticky and smelly now they smell so damn good but yeah really wanna see way more trics before i consider havesting. i know from the parents they can fatten up a bit more yet. i reckon the bugs may have slowed growth down a bit. its really a challange growing outdoors organically ay
@melly,
Yeah it is, pests are a bit annoying, weather and stuff too (if you don't have cover, whatever). But I'll take a bit of the bad with the good.
Lots of my plants have caterpillar damage for instance, and yeah I do think the pests mess with the growth a bit. But very little damage in terms of percentage and very little I've of the damage parts I've had to discard entirely. I'm not gonna be using industrial pesticides and stuff.
i have to say though that the unaffected branches actually seem to have had a growth spurt. almost as if the plant decided to suck the life out of those two branches for whatever reason. or the food supply just got cut off from them all the sudden. i smoked some and despite being early (the ones from last week) i was extreamly high in a very cerebral way like this shit had me paranoid lol i def wanna get more amber trics on her lol the taste was shit but shed only been drying a few days so i expect the flovours will improve with time was very smooth though
it was totally unexpected ay i did find some scale bugs which i picked off but i dunno if that was it. one of the branched was one that was damaged at the base months ago and that branch was barely connected at the base so could have been the lack of water getting through but the other was a central stem that started as an offshoot i have no idea why that one went. they both got way browner within 24 hours like they stood out instantly im like fuck no they are coming off right now! i cant find any pests on them either. super weird would love to know what happened there never had that happen before
Wth happened to those parts you chopped? This is why I'm very wary of stressing my plants. Was there any weird weather conditions or something? Strange pests or fungus or some shit? If I had to guess, fungal infection or root damage. Otherwise that's likely senescence.
Like seriously, wtf, that happened in a day?
Just today, I harvested my "better" pink pistil plant (24) because of stress/mold worries related to useless weather predictions.
Though none of my plants are quite as old as yours (oldest at about 30 weeks), I've been flowering a few males for about 4 months straight. Some of my males also just seemingly randomly died very quickly (bushier plants), while some of the less bushy, more straight males only lost a branch or two. Pruning seems to have kept a bunch of my 7 month old males alive, vs not pruning. None of the females have had any branches dying yet.
Hope your plant recovers properly though, I had some that, even though I tried chopping branches it didn't help. And then some that have recovered well from removing dying branches (chop below the node, below the node of the node you reckon is dying, not a typo).
see my photo i just added fucking scale dude praying to god i got em all took up my whole afternoon really hoping she recovers now she isnt covered in these blood sucking little parasites!!
Congrats...good yield.
Those other plants I planted (~27) first after my initial grow happened to be some feminized autoflowers (kinda like I was hoping), they're doing quite well so far, but it's still nice and warm mostly, they'll probably be peaking right around mid-winter. Seems like zero effort compared to the regular plants.
In the mean time...I still have to wait for this thing and another one to finish (week 33)... https://growdiaries.s3-accelerate.amazonaws.com/static/post/photo/19262/1052458_continuation-of-first-growcustomsativa-dominant-hybrids.jpg
Damn, sorry to see it didn't recover properly. It's a pretty fine line with growing time, conditions, stress, maturity. I swear I'll only ever stress my plants in the most basic/least stressful ways when they're in good shape, from what I've seen, there's a lot that can go wrong with straight outdoor grow.
Good call on chopping it though, they can degrade really quickly, depending on the problem.
First/easiest grow improvement on my own stuff (though I think it' might be similar for you) is to germinate/plant seeds 2-6 weeks earlier (easy to manage when they're young), due to the growing time and climates. I'll also definitely be looking at more preventative stress reduction.
@melly,
Thanks for the diary btw, I picked up a bunch of clues from your grow (contrasting it with mine), like you have large amounts of bud sites, but they're not very large and you have a massive number of leaves (this could be good or bad, I dunno yet, like maybe it makes the plant less prone to mould), much more significant trunks/stems/branches than my plants. You did use some stress techniques though. My plants are almost the opposite, fairly low bud site/leaf count, but very large/dense, anemic trunks/stems/branches. Basically no stress applied, some defoliation of crappy leaves or removal of bad stuff.
But I mean...
https://growdiaries.s3-accelerate.amazonaws.com/static/post/photo/19262/998171_continuation-of-first-growcustomsativa-dominant-hybrids.jpg
https://growdiaries.s3-accelerate.amazonaws.com/static/post/photo/19262/998176_continuation-of-first-growcustomsativa-dominant-hybrids.jpg
That's from 1 plant, I tried to avoid stress (because they were really stressed simply due to conditions), nature seems better at it than me.
Impressive stuff. I'll definitely be checking it out more. Your plant(s) look incredibly well adapted to your conditions. Like essentially landrace stuff.
i out a handful of supher gauano and epsom salts on them a few weeks ago, i dont really follow a schedual religiously. been giving them nutes every couple weeks but thought i might stop them now. i will give them some tomorrow
@melly,
Bees, moths, etc and just freaking air causes some pollination at times. A long time ago I had one female plant with no males near her and she got pollinated randomly (god and mary, I guess).
If it's not obviously hermi (just check the nodes), a few seeds won't hurt the plant/quality much at all (imo, I've been smoking for decades) and you get free seeds. I wouldn't worry about it, it's likely from your "dad" plant, even.
Pests like spider mites and mealy bugs can definitely cause signs of nutrient deficiences though, and you have found some pests, so that would have influenced the plants a bit since it's just another form of stress. Especially because you stressed your plants, then there's the natural stress too from say, the weather. The plants can't deal with all of that so well (unless they're incredibly robust strains).
Good call on removing those damaged parts and smoking them. I've found a bunch of caterpillars and damage from them and I mean. I smoked the fuck out of that shit, it was great. I'd basically not even consider it damage, like it cured/dried weed when I needed some, as a bonus.
Good luck, as usual. They still look strong and I hope your female there didn't hermi (doubt it).
i found some spider mites been treating woth pyrethum dunno if thats got something to do with it. also looks like the bigger one has started making seeds! no idea when or how she got pollinated, the other one doesnt seem to be effected. there has been a lot of bees around lately but its possible shes hermied late in flower and i just havnt found the pollen sacks
@melly,
Maybe try a little bit of pisswater (first choice, since it also has potassium and phosphor and is kinda convenient) or something like kelp, random plant leaf/parts debris teas (green stuff, chlorophyll, proteins) for nitrogen since that kinda looks like the main deficiency there.
Your plants are very dense/leafy, so I'm assuming they're using a bit more nutrients than typical, possibly from stress (I generally wouldn't advocate stress, btw).
I'm wondering if those plants can't go for longer than 3 weeks, it seems like they're about to bulk a bit, so you might want to give them a bit extra maturing time.
@melly,
From what I've seen, even if it looks like some trichomes are ready and it's just about harvest time (according to some other people), that's only the surface, if it bulks up it produces more new stuff.
To me it really seems to depend more on the maturity of the plant, if it's still pumping out pistils it's generally good (only an opinion, but it seemingly holds for all the plants I've got). Even with the continued bulking and long flowering time surface trichomes are still mostly clear or very slightly cloudy.
It's a tradeoff though, for a number of reasons, but it seems to have worked for me so far, problem being my plants (not in pots) can't support themselves very well due to the weight.
I'm sure you'll have a fairly good idea of when it stops bulking/producing though, best of luck.
@beadyeyes,
My plants are retarded (similar sativas to mellys, but grown a bit differently in a different area). Most of them are only gonna be ready after 30+ weeks. That's insane considering the conditions they've had, but I don't really have too much indica stuff here.
Patience though...GL!
@melly,
I'm thinking you have a little nitrogen deficiency there (mainly), but I'd probably give the plants something like a little bit of epsom salts and potassium/phosphor (due to its maturity) too, with that.
I can't be sure, of course, and I dunno if you've been addressing that. But, just in case.
melly
