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100 Watt with Samsung diodes Light Emitting Diodes/100W
Elite
VEG
100 Watt with Samsung diodes Light Emitting Diodes/100W
Elite
Tent
4 x 4 Grow Tent with Mylar
GROW
Fan
Oscillating Fan
Tall fan
Coco Coir
Perlite
Other
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks 9-10
19 L
Pot Size
0.76 L
Watering
Start at 10 Week
G
Germination
2mo ago
1/10
Kirsten Hey friends! ๐งก I am starting this grow thanks to James at Royal Queen Seeds!
I finally have the ultimate seeds to experiment with, and you know I'm beyond excited ๐
F1 Hybrids, as you might know, are identical phenotypes produced by crossing from In Bred Lines (IBL's). This ensures that every plant is the same, and thus, experimenting with these will hopefully produce some very valuable and interesting results.
This is a dream come true for me, as I'm endlessly curious for all knowledge, especially biology.
So, with that being said, I give many thanks to James and RQS for providing me with these Orion F1 seeds for me to play with!
For these experiments, I am making 2 diaries on advice from some of you lovely folks!
It was decided that it would be easier to document each plant separately
This plant will receive liquid nutrients, mainly Greenleaf Nutrients. (Substrate only containing canna coco, worm castings, and perlite.)
The second plant will be a grow with mostly dry amendments by Ecothrive and all organic.
(Living soil custom mix).
So make sure to check out the other diary. Otherwise, the experiments are rather pointless ๐
Come along on this one, I have very high hopes! ๐โ๏ธ๐๐๐ฑ๐
11.5.25:
The seeds were planted, and watered in with dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.4 with a tiny amount of Ecothrive Biosys.
This is the soil mix I used. 5 gallon / 19l pot contained approximately;
This is the soil mix I used. 5 gallon / 19l pot contained approximately;
โก Canna Coco (12l)
๏ธ Perlite (4.5l)
โก Worm Castings (2l)
๏ธ Coffee Grounds (1/2 cup)
โก Dry Amendments โก
โ Ground Cinnamon
โ Diatomaceous Earth
โ Great White Mycorrhizal Fungi blend
โงโง Watered the seed in with dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.4 with Ecothrive Biosys 1/16 tsp/l.
I'll be back when we see some leaves! ๐ ๐๐ฑโ๏ธ๐ โงโง
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Used method
Directly In Substrate
Germination Method
1
Week 1. Vegetation
2mo ago
1/6
7.62 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
No Smell
Smell
545 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
30 ยฐC
Solution Temp
21 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
24 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 L
Pot Size
Kirsten 15.5.25:
It's been 48 hours after planting, and we have 2 extraordinarily identical seedlings! ๐ฑ๐ฑ
This time germinating, I did not use the humidity domes or spay the leaves.
I adjusted the dehumidifier to around 50% RH.
TEMP: 26ยฐC.
Soil PH: 7.0
Soil temp: 20ยฐC
Water PH: 6.0
Water about 20mls 3x a day.
I used plain, dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.0.
I'm very excited to see how we go! ๐ฑ๐ค๐โ๏ธ๐๐
18.5.25:
The seedling ๐ฑ is looking nice and strong.
Yesterday, I started watering around the perimeter of the pot to help the ecosystem of the soil get started.
I'm watering with plain, dechlorinated, PH'd water.
PPM: 545
PH: 6.0-6.5
The F1 Hybrid experiment has thus far produced identical results.
The experiment compares two different styles of growing;
one using Organic Dry Amendments the whole way through seed to harvest.
The other plant, seed to harvest, will be receiving Liquid Nutrients.
Thanks for following along on this grow ๐๐๐๐โ๏ธ๐ฑ
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Week 2. Vegetation
2mo ago
1/5
7.62 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
No Smell
Smell
545 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
30 ยฐC
Solution Temp
21 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
24 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 L
Pot Size
111.76 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Cal-Mag Amino
1 mll
Kirsten Orion F1 Liquid Nutrients.
24.5.25:
The plants are at what I call "the purgatory stage". Not much has happened. So I'm not expecting to see proper growth for another week.
Just watering when necessary, to avoid mould etc.
They should start being interesting soon! ๐
24.5.25:
The pot felt very light in comparison to it's partner.
I watered with 1.25 litres of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.4.
I added Per 1.25 litres;
โก 2ml Xpert Nutrients Cal-Mag amino acids
PH: 6.4
PPM: 569
โ Xpert Nutrients PH down, up to 1ml.
โ Ecothrive Neutralise 1 drop per litre from the 1ml pipette, which is attached.
This is my dechlorinator.
Thanks for stopping by ๐๐ฑ๐ค๐โ๏ธ๐
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Week 3. Vegetation
2mo ago
1/5
7.62 cm
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.3
pH
No Smell
Smell
545 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
30 ยฐC
Solution Temp
21 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
23 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 L
Pot Size
109.22 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Trace
1 mll
Kirsten Orion F1 Liquid Nutrients grow.
31.5.25:
Well, this week has been pretty dull ๐ I was hoping to have something to report on by now. I guess maybe next week ๐ค
I've just been keeping the pot watered. I watered twice this week, with about 2l of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.4. Once;
I used 1ml/2l of Xpert Nutrients Cal-Mag amino acids, the other watering I used .15Tsp Ecothrive Biosys.
โ Xpert Nutrients PH down, up to 1ml.
โ Ecothrive Neutralise 1 drop per litre from the 1ml pipette, which is attached.
This is my dechlorinator.
I am planning on either topping or FIMing both plants. So I'm hoping that purgatory won't last much longer here ๐ค
Quite a boring update, I know, but thanks for stopping by and hanging out! ๐โ๏ธ๐๐๐ฑ
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Week 4. Vegetation
1mo ago
1/6
12.7 cm
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.3
pH
No Smell
Smell
656 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
30 ยฐC
Solution Temp
21 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
23 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 L
Pot Size
106.68 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Trace
1 mll
Kirsten Orion F1 Liquid Nutrients:
The seedling is looking fairly unhappy. I will keep an eye on it.
The plant has been given its first dose of Mega Crop Part B to introduce some more nitrogen, hopefully she will begin to grow some more and start greening up.
The plant was watered when the pot was dried, to avoid mould and root issues.
8.5.25:
The plant was watered with 1ltr of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.0. I added per litre;
โก 1/4 TSP Mega Crop Part B
โก 1ml Trace
PPM: 656
PH: 6.0.
โ Xpert Nutrients PH down, up to 1ml.
โ Ecothrive Neutralise 1 drop per litre from the 1ml pipette, which is attached.
This is my dechlorinator.
Let's see how she goes.
Thanks for stopping by ๐๐โ๏ธ๐๐ค
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Week 5. Vegetation
1mo ago
1/4
12.7 cm
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
No Smell
Smell
656 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
30 ยฐC
Solution Temp
21 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
23 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 L
Pot Size
106.68 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Trace
1 mll
Kirsten Orion F1 Liquid Nutrients.
15.6.25:
I watered with 2ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.2, containing the following nutrients;
โก 1/2 Mega Crop Part A
โก 1/2 Mega Crop Part B
PH: 6.2 PPM: 828.
The plant has finally started to grow again! I'm having a little trouble with this one, as I'm trying to judge how much food she needs.
I had thought the worm castings would keep her going for longer, honestly.
Let's see how she comes along after another good dose next week!
Thank you for checking out my diary and hanging out ๐ โ๏ธ ๐ ๐ ๐ฑ
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Week 6. Vegetation
21d ago
1/5
12.7 cm
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
30 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
No Smell
Smell
656 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
30 ยฐC
Solution Temp
21 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
27 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 L
Pot Size
99.06 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Trace
1 mll
Kirsten ๐ ORION LIQUID NUTRIENTS ๐
This is a clear example of me absolutely underestimating the nutrient need when using only liquid nutrients.
The plant, as a result, has really not grown as this in comparison with the ๐ORION F1 ORGANIC DRY AMENDMENTS* ๐ Which has been topped and grown 3 times the size of this one!
I topped this plant on the 20.6.25.
Here is what I fed this week:
19.6.25:
I watered with L of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.1 and containing the following nutrients per 2 litres;
โก 1/3 Cal-Mag
โก 1/3 Mega Crop Part B
โก 1/3 Tsp Mega Crop Part A by Greenleaf Nutrients
PH: 6.1
PPM: 891
26.6.25
I gave 2ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.6 with the following nutrients per 2ltrs;
โก 2 ml Ecothrive Trace
โก 1 Tsp Ecothrive Biosys
PPM: 811
PH: 6.6
Thanks for stopping by this week ๐โ๏ธ๐๐๐ฑ
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Week 7. Vegetation
21d ago
1/4
12.7 cm
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
30 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.6
pH
No Smell
Smell
811 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
30 ยฐC
Solution Temp
21 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
30 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 L
Pot Size
76.2 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Cal+Mag Pro
2.6 mll
Kirsten ๐ ORION LIQUID NUTRIENTS ๐
This is a clear example of me absolutely underestimating the nutrient need when using only liquid nutrients.
The plant, as a result, has really not grown as this in comparison with the ๐ORION F1 ORGANIC DRY AMENDMENTS* ๐ Which has been topped and grown 3 times the size of this one!
I topped this plant on the 20.6.25.
Here is what I fed this week:
19.6.25:
I watered with 2L of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.1 and containing the following nutrients per 2 litres;
โก 1/3 Cal-Mag
โก 1/3 Mega Crop Part B
โก 1/3 Tsp Mega Crop Part A by Greenleaf Nutrients
PH: 6.1
PPM: 891
26.6.25
I gave 2ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.6 with the following nutrients per 2ltrs;
โก 2 ml Ecothrive Trace
โก 1 Tsp Ecothrive Biosys
PPM: 811
PH: 6.6
Thanks for stopping by this week ๐โ๏ธ๐๐๐ฑ
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Week 8. Flowering
15d ago
1/3
50.8 cm
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
-3 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.3
pH
No Smell
Smell
1300 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
-1 ยฐC
Solution Temp
-6 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
-4 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 L
Pot Size
76.2 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Cal+Mag Pro
2.6 mll
Kirsten ๐ ORION LIQUID NUTRIENTS ๐
3.6.25:
I watered with 2ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.3 containing the following nutrients;
โก 1/2 TSP Cal-Mag
โก 1/4 TSP Mega Crop Part B
PH: 6.3
PPM: 1300
Plus an additional 2ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.3 containing the following nutrients m;
โก 1/2 TSP Cal-Mag
โก 1/4 TSP Mega Crop Part A
PH: 6.3
PPM: 1000
This week has shown some good progress, and we are now in flower and in need of more nutrients, so I'm trying my best to adequately feed. Adding in the Mega Crop Part A now regularly from now on.
I'm hoping to see some better growth coming in next week.
Thanks for stopping in this week ๐๐๐๐๐ฑโ๏ธ
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Week 9. Flowering
9d ago
1/5
50.8 cm
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
32 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
5.9
pH
Normal
Smell
1510 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
33 ยฐC
Solution Temp
24 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
27 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 L
Pot Size
0.76 L
Watering Volume
76.2 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 2
Cal+Mag Pro
2.6 mll
Mega Crop 2 Part A 5-12-26
2.6 mll
Kirsten We are in flower for this ๐ ORION F1 AUTOFLOWER GROW ๐
The Organic Dry Amendments plant has really grown tall, I should have trained the plant earlier, aside from topping, which I did early on.
I LST'D the plant yesterday on the 11.7.25, I tied down the branches with soft garden twine to the grommets I added to the pots.
As the plants have been left for too long, they have grown tall, and now it is more difficult to train them.
๐ ORION LIQUID NUTRIENTS PLANT ๐
I LST'D on the 11.7.25 as above. This one is starting to stretch from flowering and had gotten taller as with the other plant.
Let's see how the training goes. They are looking a bit straggly. So hopefully, they will fill out with some more leaves and flowers.
You can check out the other diary to see how I cared for each plant, and the comparison if you're interested ๐
๐ ORION F1 LIQUID NUTRIENTS ๐
Here is what I did this week.
8.7.25:
I watered with 2ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 5.9 and containing the following nutrients;
๐ 1/2 TSP Cal-Mag
๐ 1/2 TSP Mega Crop Part A
PH: 5.9
PPM: 1500.
12.7.25:
I watered again today with 2ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.0 and containing the following nutrients;
๐ 1/2 TSP Mega Crop Part A
๐ 1/2 TSP Cal-Mag
PH: 6.0
PPM: 1440
Thanks for checking in this week and hanging out in the comments ๐๐โ๏ธ๐ฑ๐๐
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LST
Technique
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Week 10. Flowering
18h ago
1/4
50.8 cm
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
32 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
5.9
pH
Normal
Smell
1510 PPM
TDS
55 %
Air Humidity
33 ยฐC
Solution Temp
24 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
27 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 L
Pot Size
0.76 L
Watering Volume
76.2 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 3
Cal+Mag Pro
2.6 mll
Mega Crop 2 Part A 5-12-26
2.6 mll
Trace
2 mll
Kirsten This week Orion F1 LIQUID NUTRIENTS has not made much progress, the buds are beginning to build, and vertical growth has pretty much stopped at this stage.
Here is what I did this week.
14.7.25:
I watered with 2ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.4, no nutrients.
PH: 6.4
PPM: 363.
15.7.25:
I watered with 2ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 5.9 containing the following nutrients;
๐ 1/2 TSP Cal-Mag
๐ 1/2 TSP Mega Crop Part A
PH: 5.9
PPM: 1510
16.7.25:
I watered with 2ltrs of dechlorinated water PH'd to 6.5 containing;
๐ 1+1/4 TSP Sea K(elp)
PH: 6.5
PPM: 630.
Thanks for checking out my diary this week, and hanging out in the comments ๐๐๐ฑ๐๐โ๏ธ๐