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Day 8: Back to feeding .9 EC I'm pretty sure the twisting was from the fan or genetics, .2g epsom salt 1.2ml/ab 2ml rhizotonic 0.3ml liquid silicon per liter noticing the runoff EC slowly coming up its been lower than the input since the beginning started at 0.4 and now at 0.6 I wonder if that means I've been feeding too light or watering too much? Day 9: Runoff EC at 0.8 still climbing up to input, the 3rd set of true leaves are just starting to show so tomorrow I might lower the light a little bit to get the dli up to 35 and increase the feed from 1.2ml ab to 1.3ml and start adding cannazyme. The plant is starting to show traits from its old school mango haze heritage. Day 10: Lowered light to 69cm at 100% this gives 370 PPFD which is 32 DLI at 24/0 going to see how it reacts to skipping a day watering today. Day 11: Today I had to have the power out for some hours while there was work done to fix some intermittent powercuts. The temp got down to 19c and humid was 70% when the power came back on. That's fine but there was no air flow or circulation so the plant drooped down. I watered it with 1.1EC (1.5ml ab, 2ml rhizo 2.5ml cannazyme per liter). I also decided to run a 4 hour dark schedule as I'm not trying to push the plants vegetative growth too much, like I said I think it might overgrow the tent. I think that drops the DLI back to around 27. I also came to the conclusion that I'm doing the whole canna coco thing wrong, I've been watering everday to substantial runoff but they recommend not watering to runoff as they require the potassium that is released when you feed at a certain EC and I was washing out that in the runoff. They recommend only watering to runoff if it looks like the plant needs a flush which it should not if you follow their guide, its made to work like that. So I'm going to start following their light schedule to the T which means dropping the epsom salts and silica, I'm not using ro water so my tap water already contains plenty of silicates and calmag. Day 12: Today we start with following the canna guide for light feeding to the T which is +.9 EC or 1.3EC total (1.9ml ab, 2ml rhizo 2.5ml cannazyme per liter) and I wont water till runoff just keeping it moist, and probably only every other day till flower we'll see how it reacts and what it needs. If you research coco on the internet everyone says to treat it like hydro and to run auto feeding systems that run 5-15 times a day but if you do that with canna coco you'll run into issues they sell a different nutrient line and the COGr boards for those drain to waste systems, coco pro plus and the coco nutes are made for hand watering and not till runoff. Just reiterating that as I bet I'm not the first to fall into this trap. Well I hope I'm right anyways and I dont cause a lockout or something by overdoing the feed, we'll see. Looking forward to the next run when I try doing organic soil with biotabs seems much simpler lol.
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zugzugnugnug
zugzugnugnugstarted grow question a day ago
Anyone run canna coco nutes with their coco plus, how do you hand water? Daily, every other day? runoff, no runoff? All my coco searching points me to always have runoff. But canna themself say to not have runoff after first watering, they have a seperate cogr line for drain2wast
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00110001001001111Oanswered grow question 15 hours ago
forgot -- app is called hydrobuddy or growbuddy or i know there's a website that can do it too. i can't find the bookmark at this time but have found one before. I use my own spreadsheet and it doesn't find doses for target ppms like the apps and web apps can. I already tweaked mine for my local environemnt. my adjustments are easy enough to just type in new values and see new resulting ppms/ratios.
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00110001001001111O
00110001001001111Oanswered grow question 15 hours ago
coco is soilless medium. Treat it as such. Coco itself is not special nor any different than any fibrous, solid substrate that absorbs water. All the magical things people associate with it are nonsense. So, fertilizing soilless is easy. 1) fertilize every time with 10% runoff or more -- this waste water is fine for plants in the earth but not potted plants if you don't want to throw it down the drain. 2) Wait for top layer to start to change color and repeat. A more developed plant you can increase frequency a bit. Make sure you have at least 1/3rd weight loss and you can fertigate more often and get a boost to growth. I'd follow this more pronounced wet-dry cycle early to promote thick roots to take advantage of any increased frequency later on. Coco has no nutes in it, so this is the way. A well balacned diet given each time and the runoff ensures it cannot build up. The resulting equilibrium may not be exactly the same as what you feed, but that is expected. The key is that it remains consistent - at which point any adjustment to formula also changes the resulting equilibrium. This is the super power of soiless growing and why you get better, faster growth compared to soils. use a free app to take your gauranteed analysis labels off each product you mix into solution and it can give you dosage to hit target ppms. this excludes anything your tap water adds and you may need small tweaks relative to local variables -- ratios will be the same, but overal concentration may deviate. Vege formual, fine for seedlings, too N 120-130 P 40-60 K 180-200 Ca 100+ Mg 75ish S 100+ your tap water and differing local variables may require a few adjustments, but it's a good start. Small adjustments needed based on observing the plant and how it grows. Within 1-2 grows you should have it dialed in where you barely think of it ever again. In flower, drop to ~100ppm N. If canopy continues to darken over first few weeks of flower, drop it further. easy-peasy. Should be fine otherwise. I regularly grow 6-7 different strains that pull off the same reservoir and in the last 4 years i've never had to hand water any "odd" plant that didn't like it and showed virtually no deficiency/toxicity symptoms at any point that matters. Most plants will show some 'ugly' the last few weeks due to senescence. The idea that these plants are uniquely picky is a product of poorly fed plants using esoteric formuals. This formula is not "mine." it's the product of research that several professional ag companies mimic for a soiless/hydro line of nutrients. Not some formula a random person growing a handful of plants and riddled with small sample size error created. it's trustworthy and results are easily repeatable for that reason.
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m0useanswered grow question a day ago
If its soilless I would water it like any other soiless mix. Mix up nutes, PH em, and water the medium till its fully saturated, get min 10% runoff to prevent buildup and bobs your uncle. The medium should have enough perlite or w/e mixed into it so as not to become waterlogged / overwatered, you will water it depending on how much it is drinking. normally this is every 2-3 days some people do this multiple times of day on a automatic system. I see in your diary you do not have anything else mixed into the medium with the coir, this could make this a bit more complicated, next run I would advise mixing in 30% perlite to aid in draining. for now follow their instructions and see how it goes. Water in slowley though, not all at once.
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Grow4Releaf
Grow4Releafcommentedweek 012 days ago
First grow, best of luck with it. Donno if uve looked into it, but DLI for ur lights , it helps to read up on for each stage .. incase u were unaware (Dr.bugbee on youtube explains a good bit easy to understand his indoor hemp production video covers alot that covers the basic inputs u can control indoor) Best of luck tho, just threw a few things out there seeing ur just starting. Off to a good start tho !!
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Grow4Releafcommented12 days ago
@zugzugnugnug, just making sure u were aware is all *mentioned first grow* so just threw it out but u seen it ur good 👍🏻(he is saying if ur other parameters are inline yes u can hammer down) but u watched them and u know obviously lol.
zugzugnugnug
zugzugnugnugcommented12 days ago
@Grow4Releaf, The DLI is at 19 (220 par @ 24 hours) I had it at 14 originally but I watched a bugbee vid and he said seedlings dont need super low DLI and in his testing they can be blasted.