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dweemyss dweemyss
5 years ago
Week 17 – Flowering/Ripening/Flushing 6.17: AM temp 70 F. AM H2O: <1 qt/1, 2 & 4. PM nute: <1 qt/3. 8.18: AM temp 72 F. AM H2O: <1 qt/1, 2 & 4. Dry out 3. 6.19: AM temp 73 F. PM H2O: <1 qt/all. 6.20: AM temp 73 F. PM H2O: <1 qt/1, 2 & 4. PM nute: <1 qt/3. 6.21: AM temp 70 F. PM H2O: topped off all. 6.22: AM temp 71 F. PM H2O: topped off 1, 2 & 4. PM nute: <1 qt/3. 6.23: AM temp 70 F. PM H2O: topped off 1, 2 & 4. PM nute: <1 qt/3. *Apologies for the pics. The IPhone died, so the Kindle has taken over. Not as good. This is officially the world's longest Tangerine Dream Auto grow. I am pretty sure that the trichomes on these ladies will never completely turn milky. I've read on a few different site's posts and threads that it is not uncommon for Auto trichomes to not finish by the time the pistils are all curled and darkened up. #3's flowering stretch has been beastly; 13 inches in 2 weeks. Where she was FIM'ed, the colas have tripled in diameter. What an exciting finisher for this grow! With 1, 2 & 4 I will finish flushing and go to dark and ice water in the next few days, depending on the reluctant trichomes.
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Grow Questions
dweemyss
dweemyssstarted grow question 6 years ago
General observations regarding growing with coco & perlite are most welcome. Specific comments and suggestions on DIY pots & saucers and drainage set-ups & solutions would be awesome. As I have never used coco and perlite with GenHydro nutrients before, any advice is welcome!
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TheIceCreamParlour
TheIceCreamParlouranswered grow question 6 years ago
I run a very similar set up to yourself. 20litre fabric pots on a drain to waste tray. If you dont have anywhere lower than the tent to run your drainage pipework too then I'd suggest you put all the bags in large trays and sit them on pan stands or similar. Easy/cheap DIY option meaning you can water them with run off. The water that collects in the trays can then just evaporate which will nicely lift the humidity too.
dweemyss
dweemyssstarted grow question 6 years ago
I am having a hard time getting a sense of the autoflower "timeline". Many breeders have these "seed to harvest" claims, such as 55 - 85 days seed to harvest etc. My grow is entering week 9, and the flowering stage is just getting started. Are these claims even worth noting?
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Weird_Jimmy
Weird_Jimmyanswered grow question 6 years ago
As far as the Groowers choice seeds go, I was also confused when my Tangerine didnt finish in 65 days from seeds. That was my mis-reading what Growers choice was saying about its timeline. The time they give 55-65 days flowering is as the time from when it STARTS flowering and doesnt include vegitative growth stage, which has been averaging 4-5 weeks for me. So 95 days is the projected time line. My Tangerine went 101 days from seed. Its probably could have gone another week even. After doing some research Ive concluded that 12 weeks is a good target for auto's, but if it takes longer its probably because you have a good healthy plant.
dweemyss
dweemyssstarted grow question 6 years ago
I am using Liquid KoolBloom as a foliar spray. Liking what I am seeing, but being new to foliar spraying I want to hear what you use and how often. Thanks! 😎
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 6 years ago
Brave man ! I also made foliar sprays that I used well into flower, but never this late into flower, and I would stop spraying two weeks before harvest at the very least - just in case ! I used kelp and cal mag as a spray as well as co2 and sprayed beneficials like B.S. and Trychodermas too, also sprayed mag sulfur... Anyway, hope this helps ! 🚀
dweemyss
dweemyssstarted grow question 6 years ago
Any hints on finishing off plants in the final stages of blooming/ripening to ensure max deliciousness? Bud fattening, terpene and flavor strengthening etc. Thanks! 😎
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 5 years ago
Hey there ! Great question : basically trichomes take an average of two weeks to make THC, so there's very little you can do it increase potency in the final days. What you can do is encourage the production of terpenes , that's that flavour as you know ! so to do that what you can do is decrease the light in the last few days (like three days or so) before the chop. because the terpenes are volitile, even light damages them. Careful too giving a too long dark period before the chop, anything more than 24hrs and it will mess with the trychomes! Other things you do are start watering with some mollasses diluted in water (for a sweet, aniseed flavour) or flush with a chelation agent like humic or amino acids for the last week of flush. beyond that it's just boulderdask more or less. In otherwords more terpenes more flavor, so anything you can do to reduce their deterioration or increase their production is what you're looking for. Hope this helps ! 🚀
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 175 years ago
Hey there, I gotta partially disagree with stick on this one, stress increases the production of trichomes, but induce it too late and all you end up getting is unripe trichomes and pushing back your harvest date. Hope I answered your question though ! anything else you need, as you know you can always drop me a message 👊
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Astroboy
Astroboycommentedweek 66 years ago
Monster in making
Denzul
Denzulcommentedweek 56 years ago
Looks like it! Great work
ThatoneAKguy
ThatoneAKguycommentedweek 175 years ago
My moby dick never gazed up completely. But it made you want to clean your house and go play frisbee golf after that. How tight are the nugs?
ThatoneAKguy
ThatoneAKguycommented5 years ago
@dweemyss, I say go for it as long as you’ve had a little flush. I’m ALL about the wet trim. Such a pain to do all of that after they dry. A little here or there is fine but it’ll drive a man crazy if you attempt the whole thing after lol. I was just curious based on length of the grow and that you used and entry level light. Take a video and share a few more photos when you get her all done! Nice job!
dweemyss
dweemysscommented5 years ago
@ThatoneAKguy, I had heard that sometimes with Autos, the trichomes don't always cloud up all the way. The 3 plants that are going first all have trichomes that are clear, cloudy and amber. The big majority are cloudy, so I'm thinking it's about time. The buds are all tight with the sugar leaves certain be in the nugs after trimming. I think I'll do a wet trim then clean up before the curing.
ImpatientGrower
ImpatientGrowercommentedweek 106 years ago
Hey I have the same issue regarding flowering stage with my tangerine dreams. I have 2 plants. One started flowering 2 weeks ago and one is still on its vegetative stage. I have been puting the veg one on a 12/12 schedule 5 days ago : still not flowering. Will give it 5 more days and get back to 18/6.
ImpatientGrower
ImpatientGrowercommented6 years ago
@dweemyss, Hope so too ! Eventually the plant flowered but I guess I'll never know if it's the switch in schedule or if it was just her time. Yours are looking really good. Somebody's gonna have a nice time !
dweemyss
dweemysscommented6 years ago
@ImpatientGrower, I have neighbors with a lot of experience growing both photo and auto flowers. They have had similar issues with plants delaying the veg cycle and apparently the longer veg cycle often can set up a better harvest. Hope yours does!
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommentedweek 46 years ago
Grows lookn good dude! Re: coco - starting immediately into nutes at seedling (photo or auto) was the right decision. The seedlings don’t need much early but they still need something when I’m coco due to it being a nute neutral medium. As long as you’re regularly using the calmag it should be very similar to any soil grow - just with more nutes. And don’t stress your grow light - I’ve gone several cycles in my old cabinet with a similar lamp and achieved great results under the circumstances. Upgraded recently myself to a cob system but I still utilize the old light. As far as drainage is concerned - feel free to check my first week of my crit. Kush grow - made a diy runoff tray so that every time I water - just gotta siphon out the runoff or leave it to evaporate and get a slight humidity bump. Anyhoo - good luck on this one, thy look happy and healthyhomie👌👍
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago
@dweemyss, np - watering was such a pain in the ass before I put it in and now it’s a breeze.👍
dweemyss
dweemysscommented6 years ago
@TheBudWhisperer, thanks for the feedback. I like the tray a lot 👌 😎
Denzul
Denzulcommentedweek 36 years ago
Plants looking really healthy. I know how tough it can be with those entry level budget lamps, but these look great. Nice work. Keep doing what your doing and best of luck with the rest of your grow
Denzul
Denzulcommented6 years ago
@dweemyss, cheap budget gear has its uses for sure. Helped get so many into this hobby we now love.
dweemyss
dweemysscommented6 years ago
@Denzul, I keep forgetting that the cheap LED lamp also got me into the game lol, so I should be grateful 😄
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 175 years ago
Hey there, I gotta partially disagree with stick on this one, stress increases the production of trichomes, but induce it too late and all you end up getting is unripe trichomes and pushing back your harvest date. Hope I answered your question though ! anything else you need, as you know you can always drop me a message 👊
dweemyss
dweemysscommented5 years ago
@CRiSPrGrow, thanks for the info. I've heard a lot of things about the dark period, with or without ice water. I confess that some of the claims seemed a bit exaggerated, but I know absolutely doodly about growing right now. I have the girls on a two week flush right now, using weak molasses water. Only one of the three plants has really seen leaves dying off, which is weird as they all were fed similarly. Otherwise everything seems on track, just a bit slower than optimum.
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigadecommentedweek 175 years ago
It took mine 14 weeks and she looked like there was almost no chlorophyll left in most of her. I would have liked to see more amber than I did. But I gotta say, the taste is amazing and the high is super nice. I think yours will be even better. I think patience, in this case, will pay off.
dweemyss
dweemysscommented5 years ago
@BucketBrigade, I love the mass fist sized bud that was in one of the pics you had for that grow. If I get that kind of mass I will be very happy indeed. I think the last two weeks has been very good for the grow. It will be a 2+ week long flush with molasses water. Only one plant really has leaves dying off which is strange as they all were fed similarly. However, the smell is just out of this world, so I feel like all signs taken together are point to chop chop.
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 146 years ago
hey there, hope I answered your question, anything else you need just let me know.
dweemyss
dweemysscommented6 years ago
@CRiSPrGrow, thanks! I have stopped the spraying on all but #3, which is a good month behind (what I did I do not know lol). I like the General Hydroponics line up, but I want to move towards organics. It seems like everyday there are new products out there. If you have any product or company recommends 😎 that would help guide, that would be awesome.
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigadecommentedweek 106 years ago
She's looking great. Gonna be a great harvest!
dweemyss
dweemysscommented6 years ago
@BucketBrigade. I am looking forward to the first sample!
Mr_Weeds_Autos
Mr_Weeds_Autoscommentedweek 86 years ago
Looking Good ...
dweemyss
dweemysscommented6 years ago
@Mr_Weeds_Autos, Thanks! 😎
BucketBrigade
BucketBrigadecommentedweek 86 years ago
These are looking really nice!
dweemyss
dweemysscommented6 years ago
@BucketBrigade, Many thanks 😎
Denzul
Denzulcommentedweek 56 years ago
Really coming along nicely since last time I check in. Great work!
dweemyss
dweemysscommented6 years ago
@Denzul, thanks! I am dialing things in I think.
Denzul
Denzulcommentedweek 96 years ago
Man shes come so far. This has been a great journal to follow. Nice work. Almost there my friend.
Gonewiththewind
Gonewiththewindcommentedweek 66 years ago
Nice job man, looks awesome!
ShotGunBob
ShotGunBobcommentedweek 66 years ago
Looking good :)
Stick
Stickcommentedweek 165 years ago
Hi @dweemyss! Stress is known to increase resin production during the very last days of the late flowering stage, there are a few techniques you can look at: dark period, stem splitting, cold shock...it's up to you! Whatever technique you choose, please share the results with us! Happy growing 👊
dweemyss
dweemysscommented5 years ago
@Stick, I am planning on 48 hours dark with ice water to finish the flush. Total flush time will be about 2 weeks. I will be updating the journal at harvest time. Cheers! 😎