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Milky way F1 Auto (First grow)

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weeks 1
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weeks 3-6
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weeks 4-6
20 L
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Germination
1mo ago
grassfanatic Germination succesful. After 3 days paper towel germination, transfered to little pot with regular soil. No nutrients
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Week 1. Vegetation
1mo ago
3 cm
18 hrs
21 °C
No Smell
50 %
30 cm
grassfanatic Typing this on day 4: Healthy looking seedling, can’t wait for the next weeks. First week looking good. Steps taken: - Transplant from normal soil to fertilized soil - Light dimmer is set to 25% with light 30cm from seedling. - Humidity dome removed
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Week 2. Vegetation
1mo ago
4 cm
18 hrs
23 °C
No Smell
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19 °C
0 L
30 cm
800 PPM
grassfanatic Entering week 2 of vegetation. Leafs are starting to form nicely and everything is looking good so far!
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Week 3. Vegetation
22d ago
10 cm
18 hrs
25 °C
No Smell
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22 °C
20 L
1 L
30 cm
800 PPM
grassfanatic Went on a vacation and starting this week series with day 19. Plant growth looking good. Time to crank up the light intensity to 50-60% for the coming 2 weeks. Gonna start topping and LST during these 2 weeks aswell Also watering about 2l every 2 days
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Week 4. Vegetation
15d ago
15 cm
18 hrs
24 °C
7.7
No Smell
60 %
19 °C
20 L
1 L
50 cm
800 PPM
grassfanatic Typing this at day 26: Flowering is around the corner. Just ordered my nutrients and got my ph meter aswell. Still no smell at all. Plant is not super tall standing 15 cm but i’m expecting it to grow a lot in the coming days. During this week i did some low stress training by training the thickest side branches and pulling them down every time they grew upwards. They grew really nice sideways and now i will stop training and let them grow upwards. Also the light is on around 70% intensity and i lifted it up around 45cm of the canopy so it will trigger more vertical growth. Plant is looking happy. Nutes are going to be fed at the end of this week Installed a scrog net aswell.
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Week 5. Flowering
10d ago
18 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6.8
No Smell
45 %
19 °C
20 L
2 L
40 cm
800 PPM
Nutrients 4
Bio-Bloom - BioBizzWWO
Bio-Bloom 1.5 mll
Top-Max - BioBizzWWO
Top-Max 0.5 mll
Bio-Grow - BioBizzWWO
Bio-Grow 0.5 mll
grassfanatic Typing this on the first day of week 5. Yesterday i gave a light dose of nutrients to the plant. As bloom is probably about to start at the end of this week. Pistils are showing on the nodes and the plant is looking bushy and healthy. Not super tall but that is expected as it's an indica and the growth spurt is about to start. I'm excited to see where this goes as I didn't have the right tools to measure the nutrients and i used lemon juice as a ph down. As for the nutrients, i gave half the recommended dose for week 5. I will be keeping a close eye to the plant for any nutrient deficiencies and strange side effects. Fingers crossed! Day 35: added calmag to the nutrient mix as i saw some possible magnesium deficiency. Also last heavy defoliation for better airflow. Now i will let the plant fully recover and focus on flowering
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Week 6. Flowering
4d ago
18 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6.9
No Smell
45 %
19 °C
20 L
2 L
40 cm
800 PPM
Nutrients 4
Bio-Bloom - BioBizzWWO
Bio-Bloom 2 mll
Calmag - BioBizzWWO
Calmag 0.5 mll
Bio-Grow - BioBizzWWO
Bio-Grow 0.5 mll
grassfanatic First day of week 6. Upped the doses of top-max and bloom. Plant looking happy. Still no smell tho. I guess the smell will start this week. Let’s see how strong it gets…
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grassfanatic
grassfanaticstarted grow question 1d ago
I’m wondering if it is nutrient lockout my plant is experiencing. I did some defoliation on day 40 but now i will stop to not further stress the plant. I use citric acid as ph down and runoff ph is 7.1. Day 41 and still no vertical growthe or much new leaves :/
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Leaves. Veins - yellow between
Leaves. Color - Yellow
Plant. Stem - Red or purple
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00110001001001111Oanswered grow question 10h ago
new leaf growth slowly stops in flower. this is normal. removing leaves can actually delay this and is generally not a net-positive and should be avoided. Never remove a leaf without a good reason to do so. Removing leaves does not allow a plant to focus on anything else. removing leaves will just cause a feedback loop to grow more leaves, if not deep into flower phase when vegetative growth (leaf growth and stem elongation = 'vege' growth) stops. I don't think this is a toxicity. You have some deficiency symptoms and the plant is generally on pale side as opposed to lush (darker). The node spacing at the top may hint at too much light, albeit not an extreme excess, which eventually can cause extended droop in the plant. Other things to cross-reference to support or rule this out: Did they start by getting droopy at end of day and progressively get worse? Are fan leaves originating from a very short length of stem near top? chlorosis will start at teh top too, but you also have something else causing interveinal chorosis (nute related most likely) elsewhere on the plant which makes it more difficult to assess. read up on Daily Light Integral. If providing more than 35-40 dli, reduce it. even if giving "40" try a 10% reduction and see if they get perkier. Extended periods of too much light provided can take a week or more to recover. If this is soil, you want to ph-balance lower to get it near 6.5-6.8. 7.1 would not cause these problems, though. Citric acid is fine. Drift is more a cause of lack of buffering / amendments in soil than which acid or base you use to balance it out. "Active transplort" that roots engage in can also cause a shift in pH. vertical growth will cease about 30 days after the plant goes into flower. For an autoflower, you'd have to make an educated guess as to when this occurred. When you see preflowers, it probably went into bloom phase 5-10 days prior to seeing them -- depends on when your eagle eyes notice it. if you insist on defoliation, be very careful not to remove too much at that point... it won't grow back. Leaves are more than solar panels, which alone is enough reason not to remove them. They store components for biological processes. They intake co2, which is most likely your limiting factor as far as yield is concerned. So, removing leaves is a hug negative that is highly unlikely to be overcome by whatever perceived benefit the "mob" says you gain by removing them. just because so many don't understand the basics of watering... 1) fully saturate 2) allow appropriate dryback for your medium and repeat. If superficially irrigating or providing some volume of water of your choosing that does not fully saturate, this could be contributing to droop and even nutrient imbalances in rootzone. if this is soilless, you must also get 10% runoff, religiously. this avoids buildup in substrate and ensures any imbalance caused by 'active transport' is mitigated and rest to your expected fertilizer formula - or thereabouts... it won't be the exact formula that results. the key is that it doesn't build up or reduce... consistently providing similar ratio and concentration of nutrients around roots is the goal in soiless/hydro.
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MrGrowDiarieanswered grow question 18h ago
It sounds like your plant could indeed be experiencing signs of nutrient lockout, especially given the runoff pH of 7.1, which is quite high for most nutrient uptake, particularly in soilless or coco setups where optimal pH is 5.8–6.2. Here are some key considerations: --- Possible Nutrient Lockout Causes 1. pH Too High (7.1) At this level, nutrients like phosphorus, iron, and manganese become less available. Can lead to slowed growth, pale leaves, and general stalling. 2. Citric Acid as pH Down Citric acid can work short-term, but it's not stable in the medium over time and may cause pH to rebound. It can also encourage microbial growth that alters the root zone environment. 3. Recent Defoliation Stress (Day 40) Heavy defoliation close to flowering can cause temporary growth slowdown. If the plant was already stressed, it could compound the issue. 4. No Vertical Growth or Leaf Production (Day 41) If growth has completely halted, that’s often a red flag for either: Nutrient lockout Root zone issues (e.g., pH, salt buildup, overwatering) --- Recommended Next Steps 1. Flush with Properly pH’d Water Use water pH’d to 5.8–6.0. Ideally, use a stable pH down like phosphoric acid instead of citric acid. Run enough water through the medium to get 20–30% runoff and test the new runoff pH. 2. Check EC/PPM of Runoff If EC is high, you may have salt buildup which contributes to lockout. A mild flush can help reduce this. 3. Resume Feeding at Correct pH Once the pH is corrected, resume your normal feed, but start light. Make sure nutrient solution is also around 5.8–6.0. 4. Watch for Recovery Signs New growth (even small leaf tips or vertical stretch) within 2–5 days is a good sign. If no signs after a week, reassess root health and potential root-bound condition
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Ultravioletanswered grow question 11h ago
The initial addition of say, citric acid, will drop the pH – generating citrate ions in the process these will then be absorbed by microbes and plants, increasing the pH again rapidly. Good but not ideal. Had a peek at diary and I will do my best to give you a idea of what I think is going on based on what I see. I'm not always correct so take what you will with a pinch of salt. Your ph was last week up at 7.7, now it sits.7.0 which is fine ok, ph can tell alot of what the medium is composed of. Closer you are to ph of 7 the higher saturation level of the big 3 cations. What are the big 3 cations? Potassium (K+), magnesium (Mg2+), and calcium (Ca2+). At ph 7.0 100% base saturation. Do not add anymore Ca Mg or K. Your massive spike to 7.7 tells me you just keep filling the soil with more and more cations, you do not need. Either that a response from the citric acid. As a cannabis plant grows the medium naturally acidifiys as reactions happen, over time ph will slide down once it gets to around 6.2 I'll reapply more cal mag boosting back to 6.8 or thereabouts. Soon as you go over ph of 7 micronutrient uptake will begin to be effected , lime greening occurs alongside with whatever nutrients were already beginning to run low, this can present as multiple symptoms, if the plumbing is messed up nothing moves. I dont see any dmg to the leaf tips from osmosis so your mediums salt content (ec) is still in a decent range, this is more a excess causing a disruption of the ratio. The three primary plant nutrient cations, potassium (K+), magnesium (Mg2+), and calcium (Ca2+), can exhibit antagonistic effects on each other, meaning that an excess of one can negatively impact the uptake or availability of the others. This competition arises because they share similar transport pathways and binding sites within the plant. Plant is drooping, means water is not moving like it should, your running 81f and 45% not optimal for vpd but perfect for encouraging gas exchange, Potassium is a key player in maintaining proper turgor pressure, which is vital for various plant processes, including growth, water regulation, and stress tolerance. Possible the drooping is from a antagonistic effect of calcium and magnesium disrupting pottasium from uptaking at all. Potassium, calcium, and magnesium are all positively charged ions (cations), and they share similar transport pathways in plant cells. High concentrations of Ca and Mg can compete with K for binding sites on these transport proteins, reducing the overall uptake of K. Hope that helps with your understanding of the problems you see. 🙂 best of luck with your wee plants. 6.2 -6.8 ph 0.3-1.8 ec If you control both of these, and you understand the water cycle, then you know 100% what you see is symptomatic of a deficiency or toxicity of nutrients. Either through actual deficiency or a breakdown in the SPAC waterworks. The Soil-Plant-Atmosphere Continuum (SPAC) refers to the continuous pathway through which water moves from soil to plants and eventually to the atmosphere. It's a crucial concept in understanding plant physiology, hydrology, and agriculture. Gluck
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oldskoolkoolcommentedweek 621h ago
Its taking P and K from the leaves for the buds which isn why they have pk boosters for flower.Top Max is only humic acid which is essential with organics but its got no nutrition in it.I'd recommend bat guano for P Phosphorus and ash for K Potassium.Bat guano also helps to improve smell and taste.You can use any ash,hardwood is better.I bought the ash Im using now.Guanokalong seel palm tree ash,they also sell guano.I use it with guano but you can buy p and k in 1 bottle.The organic version of big bud is what you want form mid flower.I use it but I ease off on the guano and ash when I do as its to be used from weeks 4-6 which is when they'll put most of their weight on.Watch the advice on here as so much of it is wrong.I see bad advice daily that will harm your plant so tripple check everything.One does does not fit all.Soil reacts differant to coco.Organics are different to mineral and so on.If it doesnt state bio/organic then its man made minerals which are taken up by the plant directly but organic is different.The soil microbes have evolved over millions of years to convert organics into a plant available form which is the main reason why its bbetter.they give the plant what vthey ask for as that is exactly what they do.If they need more nitrogen they atract the nitrogen fixing microbes and so on.Bio Bizz is organic whichh produces better herb than mineral.
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GERGrowDesignscommentedweek 01mo ago
Looking Good interessting Phenos as well ! Keep up the Great work your Ladys will love it :D looking Foward for your Diarie in the Next Weeks .Maybe take a look at my Newest Week of "Sweet Seeds Forest " ? I would Really apreciate that:D
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