1980s Durban Poison Living Pheno Hunt

RatmanJR Seeds planted February 14th. All seeds Sprouted around February 28th Getting started on my pheno hunt journey. Figured why not try with the hardest I could do. Currently have 5 Durban poisons sprouted. Once large enough I will be taking cuttings and moving those cuttings into a larger tent to grow. I will than select the females remaining and grow those to the finish line. Whichever strain I like the best will ultimately make it too it’s own tent as it’s forever home. Currently growing in 18x18 with some small leds

RatmanJR They were growing really slowly but nicely and than kylo got ahold of them. He ate them up pretty bad. Out of the 5 phenos, it looks like 4 will survive. Kylo did tell me the one that won’t make it tasted like a male anyway. We will consider this high stress training. God bless!

RatmanJR Still growing in the small tent. Luckily the 4 that weren’t too beaten up made a full recovery. Crazy how well these bounced back. So far super happy with these seeds. 5 for 6 on germination and 4 major massive recovery’s from my mean cat.

RatmanJR Plants growing very nicely. Getting to the point where I want to top and clone. Will see

RatmanJR Clone day. Finally labeled my 4 phenos. Took 4 top cuttings from each plant, dipped in rooting hormone and put in rockwool cubes I had soaking in real growers recharge. Hopefully in 1-3 weeks these will be ready to go in some soil

RatmanJR Not any huge updates. Plants that got cloned are growing back strong. First clone popped some super healthy roots around 14 days post clone. Hoping next ones are done by the weekend. God bless!

RatmanJR All 4 finally showed roots out of the bottom of the wool and were moved into their new fabric pots for the time being where they can develop their roots before being transplanted. The 4 clones were moved to the 3x3 with larger LED. They will remain in small pots where they will be moved into their larger pots once ready. The mothers/fathers will remain in the small tent. I will constantly prune them to keep them small. The fabric pots should air prune them so roots don’t rot. I will give them nutrients once they start needing it but with the smaller light they don’t use a lot. I plant of cutting them tmmr down as they have grown back quite strong and are getting vigorous. The clones in order from back left to right and front left to right are. Number 1,4,3,2. Really looking forward to seeing how these clones grow and testing my ability’s as a grower to keep these mothers/fathers pruned and alive in their small tent Update 05/19: I violently topped and removed about 80% foliage from the mothers/fathers. This is too keep them small from outgrowing their little tent. I need to get the 4 clones to the finish line before I can discard any of these 4 parents. These violent prunings will stunt them. They will recover they are weeds after all

RatmanJR Another week. At the time being just letting the clones fill out their small pots before I transplant them into their grow boxes. I expect a week or two. All 4 are doing really well and are rooting into the soil I placed their cubes in. At the same time just keeping the 4 mothers/fathers as small as possible so they don’t outgrow their little tent. I keep topping them violently and it’s been working really well. It stunts them for a few weeks giving me time to grow out these 4 clones. Hopping all 4 will be females but will see, the one mother/father and it’s clone is vigorous so if that’s a male it might still be worth keeping. God bless

RatmanJR May 31st update Clone 1: 9 inches tall. Distinct sativa leaves. Already has 7 pointers and looks like it’s trying to push 9s. Close node spacing Clone 2: 11 inches tall. This one has been growing with the most vigor. Largest node spacing out of all of them. Sturdy stalk. Really happy with this one so far. Clone 3: 5 inches tall. This one has been growing the slowest and least vigor. Doesn’t mean much at this point but going to keep an eye on it Clone 4: 10 inches tall. Close node spacing. Widest out of all the plants. Have a feeling this one will be bushier and squatter All 4 clones: Added red wigglers to both grow boxes, this will help with aeration and compaction. Also transplanted all 4 clones out of their small fabric pots into grow boxes. Top watered boxes but from here on out will only be doing bottom watering. Just wanted to make sure soil was moist as I have been neglecting watering the boxes Parents: I haven’t done anything with the 4 parents this week except water. They are bouncing back from their last topping. I will likely top again in a week or two once they start to take off again Looking forward to this small Pheno hunt. Hoping all 4 are females but we will see! God bless!

RatmanJR June 7th update. Clone#1 Plant was growing phenomenal but now that we hit a high enough node starting to see pre flowers. Is a male. Chopped it but kept the plant I took the clone from in case I end up wanting this male Clone#2 15 inches. Smallest base by far. Really interesting staggered growth. So far pre flowering looks like female fingers crossed Clone#3 9 inches, Short and stout(on a real note 2 inches is a LOT) might be desirable for indoor growing. Interested to see. So far pre flowering looks like female fingers crossed Clone#4 16 inches tall, wide base short top. Might be desirable for light exposure to lower canopy. Will see in flower. So far pre flowering looks like female fingers crossed Parent plants I continue to leave the parent plants under a small led panel and on 24/0 to keep them small. Will top them in a week or two too keep them even smaller.they seem very happy at the moment Overall likely only going to veg a week or two longer, just need enough flower to determine my female. Plus these “land races” go crazy when they stretch. God bless Update June 8th. Did an aggressive defoliation on the 4 plants the clones came from. They seem healthy so figured good time to do it. Should stunt them for a few more weeks. God bless

RatmanJR June 14th update Clone#1 Got chopped last week had balls Clone#2 22 inches growing really well. Much like number 4 in terms of verticals growth but significantly less width. Might be good for people who have less square footage but taller tents Clone#3 18 inches. Short and squat. Interesting structure giving what this plant should be. I bet this one will yield small but interested to see how she progresses/smokes Clone#4 28 inches. Massive vertical growth and side branches are trying to take up the whole tent. Will see how it flowers but its body is preparing for a lot of weight. I expect this one to yield huge General Update 3 remaining females growing very nicely. I’ve never actually seen a cannabis plant that looks like this, seems straight out of the early propaganda but I guess it is a land race. Aside from flipping to 12/12 I’ve also turned on the red leds which will help once flowers start forming. I’m going to continue to give just water at this point. I expect the plants to stretch like crazy giving they are pure sativas but we will see especially with the squat one. I’m also going to be putting in some thin sticks to help support the side branching, if I don’t do this once she starts flowering it will start tipping over Mothers/father plants don’t look too happy. That defoliation I did last week did a number on them. I am seeing new growth so they will all recover. Next weekend I’m moving them into slightly larger pots with newer soil too make them happy. God bless June 19th update Put in a ton of supports before we get too deep into flower. God bless

RatmanJR June 21st update. 7 days since flip Clone#1 Had balls got chopped two weeks ago Clone#2 Last week was 22 inches. This week is 33 inches. Very similar to clone number four but not as vigorous or large. I will say based on how it’s mother has handled toppings that this one is very resilient. Clone#3 Last week was 18 inches. This week is 30 inches. I am most excited for this one. Seems like it has a tighter structure, less spacing and more indica like leaves. It looks different while 4 and 2 look very similar. Can’t wait to smoke to this thing. Clone#4 Last week was 28 inches. This week is 41 inches. This one is an absolute animal. Huge node spacing. Heavy bud sites. Needs lots of supports. I love how aggressive this grows and I know this thing can handle some high humidity. Might keep this one just for outdoor growing. All 4 Clones: Will continue to only give water. Each plant is drinking about 4 gallons a week at the moment. The soil I put them in I highly amended with build of soil products and the starting soil was already hot. Really excited to see how they grow. Going to likely super crop this week just based on how they are currently stretching Parents: The one father and 3 mothers were looking bad in their small pots after the last aggressive topping so I was going to transplant. They have since recovered and are looking much better so I will be leaving them along for now God bless!

RatmanJR Day 14 post flip. Parent plants. Parents are growing really well. Going to top here again soon Clone #1 Got cut a month ago it had balls Clone #2 Growing really well. First one to really start developing buds. About 18 days flip. This one seems the most standard in every category. Well rounded plant so far. Will see how buds grow. 45 inches Clone #3 This thing is no longer squat. It started off really slow, post flip it exploded. Close nodes it seems. Really excited to see if this turns out more indica or sativa. 47 inches Clone #4 I had to super crop this thing. It exploded from the very beginning. Absolute monster in such a small space. Can easily fill out a 4x4 will one of these things in a 10 gallon container. 36+9.5+10=55.5” Overall We are finally at the most important part of any pheno hunt, gotta see how these buds form. Plants are growing amazing. Shout out bioall365 and build a soil nutrients I amended bioall365 which is loaded already with some build a soil nutrients and it’s been hot but no burning. Haven’t had to give them anything but water and plants are still showing signs it’s hot. Got lots of supports going. Her growth seems to be slowing down a bit which is helpful. She’s also showing no signs of light stress. Under a 400w led eating it like it’s nothing. Loving these girls. God bless!

RatmanJR July 5th. 21 days post flip Clone#1: Got chopped a few weeks back had balls. Clone#2 Really liking this one going into flower. Buds seem to be the closest in structure so hoping to get some semi dense bugs from this one. Will see how it develops! Clone#3 Started off real small and absolutely exploded in stretch. Bud structure is interesting so far not sure how it’ll end up we will see! Clone#4 This thing has been and continues to be an absolute monster. Least dense bud structure of all three though. This one might be a sativa sativa. Mothers/father All are growing well. Going to get topped tmmr on the 6th to stunt them again to slow them down while the clones finish. All 4 clones At one point two of them were touching the light and almost all the tops were within an inch or two of the light. After this they were growing well above the lights. This caused bleaching on the ones within inches and burnt the two that touched the light. I’ve since super cropped them violently to force them back under the light. At this point all the tops are about 6 inches from the light but they seem happy. I still have one top a couple inches away that I’m using as a test to see how much light these things can handle. So far they are monsters with handling the lights. You can see the tops within 6 inches are no longer pointing leaves upwards. The one within an inch is pointing upwards to decrease its surface area. Nothing but water so far and will continue to be nothing but water they don’t seem hungry yet. Will give build a flower in a week or two. You’ll notice I didn’t provide the heights this week for the plants. At this point it’s just because how difficult they are to measure. Praying they stop getting taller within the next few days. Very little smell so far, I expect to start getting something here in the coming weeks. Gob bless and happy growing guys!

RatmanJR July 12, 28 days since flip Clones: So far all 3 remaining clones are growing well. Buds are really starting to form and getting a ton of pistals forming. Plants grew a little bit in the last week. Ended up doing another aggressive round of super cropping to keep them from burning up. Some of the colas are above the light so may add supplemental lighting but honestly so many bud sites I’m not concerned about getting a large enough sample. Began to notice some lower leaves dying and some spots on some upper leaves so top dressed both earth boxes with some craft blend, cow cal 24, big 6, some potassium and some epsom salts. Should make her nice and happy again. At this point going to flower for a few months and drop individual updates as the plants stand out Mothers and father: Didn’t end up topping like I said I was going to last week so going to top this week. Just trying to stunt them a bit so they don’t get too large. No major updates other than this God bless!

RatmanJR July 20th. 36 days post flip Clones: These things will not stop growing. I should have known with them being landraces but I am super cropping multiple tops every single day to keep the buds off the lights. Interestingly the plants no longer seem to be burning even when they are directly touching these lights. I’ve never grown a plant this resilient in my entire life but shows what nature is capable of. Some clones have a more modern bud structure but one of them has this crazy almost spear like structure going on. Super excited to see how they smoke in a few months. No longer seeing any deficiency’s on any new leaves due to the nutrients last week. Will likely avoid adding anything else except some build a flower here in a week or so. Smell is finally starting to take off. So far very peppery but also a slight off smell as well. Can’t quite put my nose on it but hopefully in a week or so will start to get even more smell. Parents: Parents got topped aggressively a week ago on July 12th in order to keep them small. All 4 are already showing new nodes and recovery. So far they have been in these small fabric pots for 20 weeks with no signs of deficiency. I think the secret to that success has been low power lights limiting growth, no night cycle so the plants cannot develop the roots needed, and the fabric pots air pruning the roots so they don’t ball up. At this point simply going to continue topping every month or so and once they start showing deficiency will move them into slightly larger pots God bless!

RatmanJR July 27th, 43 days post flip. Clones: I think at this point they are done growing. I keep having to super crop and twist and intertwine the branches beneath the light. At this point it has formed almost a bed in nature. I have some burnt leaves and tips but I’m not worried, I will have plenty of buds Plant number 2 has my favorite bud structure so far, close spacing and more modern. Plant number 3 seems to be an in between of 2 and 4 Plant number 4, the gigantic one, has these spear like buds. I suspect this may be the most primitive of the bunch and am looking forward to smoking it Plants finally starting to develop some distinct smells when I touch them. The one is very citrusy in nature Going to continue to give nothing but water, I may give some cal mag and maybe a little potassium but will see. Due to the fact that these grew above the light I’m looking at supplemental lighting I could run during the grow. Parents: Completely recovered from their topping two weeks ago. Going to continue to water and keep them happy God bless!

RatmanJR August 5th. 52 days post flip. Clones: All 3 plants are Growing well with number 2 doing exceptionally well Had some bottom leaves falling off and obviously top buds above light not doing great on all 3 so we just installed an ion beam s16 from AC infinity as supplemental lighting for those top colas and one at the center for deeper penetration. I think the added 60 watts of high quality Samsung horticultural LEDs will help this plant. Going to be top dressing them here soon to keep them happy and healthy. As far as bud structure goes number two is my favorite. Tightest density and I think it will finish well. Number 3 is super interesting. Going to grow a giant upside tear drop shape bud by the looks of it. And last but not least number 4 the weirdo is beyond words. Parents: Growing well. God bless

RatmanJR August 10th. 57 days post flip. Clones: Clones have been growing very very well. Can confidentially say they are no longer stretching. I no longer have to move them away from the light. There are some tops that are burning but I’m not even worried about it. It’s only a few tops and it looks like I will be getting plenty of bud. I’m expecting another 8 weeks of flower at this point. Decided it was about time to give another shot of nutes. Gave them craft blend, bug 6, some potassium, some epsom salts, cow cal 24, and some recharge. I also changed them to an 11.5 to 12.5 light to night cycle. Doing this to better mimick their home environment. The tops growing above the lights are really really happy about the supplemental lighting I added. Seem to be responding very well. So far plant number 2 and 3 have a bud structure I like. Closer spacing and seem to be better overall for indoor growing. Plant number 4 seems like an absolute monster meant for the outdoors and has the more spear like sativa spacing. At this point I’m just waiting to see how they fatten and how they smoke before I chose my female. I’ve already begun looking at potential candidates for my male hunt to cross my lucky candidate with. I think I might go with something like biker kush from karma. I think that will help tighten up the structure of whatever female I decide to chose. Let me know what you guys think I should hunt for this things mate! Parents: Parents have been growing very well. Low light intensity coupled with fabric pots so they can air prune along with no night cycle leading to stunted roots has allowed me too keep these things in these tiny pots for going on 24 weeks. Going to continue to give nothing but water. Might give some casings or a tad bit of craft blend but for the time being they seem healthy. Watering every 2-3 days. Thank you guys for following and god bless!

RatmanJR August 17th. 64 days post flip. Plants growing very well. Still moving buds out from under the viparspectra every couple days. The one pot with two plants in in require watering every two days too avoid drying out. Buds are still growing new pistals. I have some browning of pistals which is concerning as it looks like it’s pollinated but I believe that is part of these sativas. At this point I believe I have about 60 days left. I also believe flowering is really just beginning. And we will see these buds fattening here shortly. I added in one of my larger fans from the automatic tent, wanted to increase airflow at this stage. I also removed some of the lower buds that were getting dirty when I watered. Parents: Growing very well. Simply going to continue watering every day or two. I have 1.5 cubic feet of elite living soil coming as I’m upgrading the auto tent from a 15 to a 30 gallon which will give me some extra soil to give these gals and guy. Thank you guys for viewing my diary and god bless.