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LSD-25 Auto #1 - Fastbuds Grow, 1st DWC!

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Fission 300W Light Emitting Diodes/190W
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Fission 300W Light Emitting Diodes/190W
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Indoor
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ScrOG
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Defoliation
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19 L
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Week 1. Vegetation
6 years ago
2.54 cm
24 hrs
24 °C
5.8
45 %
24 °C
24 °C
24 °C
19 L
53.34 cm
Nutrients 2
Root Booster - Terra Aquatica
Root Booster 0.264 mll
DryPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
DryPart Grow 0.264 mll
I asked /r/Autoflowers which girl should be my first try at DWC. The votes that I got said to do up the Fastbuds LSD-25 Auto. So that is what we're doing! Here's my nutrient plan - Bioroots in the plug. Hydrogen Peroxide at 1 capful/gallon until mid flower. Maxigrow until flower begins Maxibloom, Mammoth P, and no more H202 during flower. And nothing else. (I'll have CaMg+ on hand just in case) Trying to keep it as simple as possible. The most important thing I've learned from my first grow was a lesson I've learned with many other hobbies. Too many variables is non-optimal. I'm going to use the minimal necessary tools for the job, and then expand and get more sophisticated in *later* grows. It saved me from trouble in my first grow and I expect will do the same here. EDIT: Day 7 - Lowered her water level as her leaves are clawing due to too much water.
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Week 2. Vegetation
6 years ago
5.08 cm
24 hrs
24 °C
5.8
45 %
24 °C
24 °C
24 °C
19 L
53.34 cm
Nutrients 2
Root Booster - Terra Aquatica
Root Booster 0.264 mll
DryPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
DryPart Grow 0.264 mll
Day 8 - DWC takes a little getting used to. Was finally able to get water to her taproot properly. It had come out of the side of her Rapid Rooter and as a result, getting water to her was difficult without getting the Rooter too wet until the taproot was hanging past the bottom of the rooter. Yesterday I pulled her out of the medium, and reset it, lowering her down so that her tiny, dangling taproot could get wet. She seems to have bulked up a bit as a result. I also decided to go sterile with my reservoir and got some pool shock treatment. This seems to have helped quite a bit as well.
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Week 3. Vegetation
6 years ago
7.62 cm
24 hrs
24 °C
5.8
45 %
24 °C
24 °C
24 °C
19 L
53.34 cm
Nutrients 2
Hydrogen Peroxide 1.321 mll
DryPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
DryPart Grow 0.66 mll
Day 15 - Slowly but surely she's picking up steam. I've underwatered and over fed her a bit, and it shows. I think I put her a little too high in her basket and I've been hand feeding her. I think that in future, I'll use a smaller basket and do all hand feeding until I can see roots under their basket. I don't know if she's stunted in her current state or just small, but I'm going with her to the bitter/awesome end. Day 16 - Had to clean her bucket out again. Air stone was covered in goop. Emptied everything out, soaked it all in bleach water for a while. Soaked the hydroton (Carefully took the plant out) in hydrogen peroxide. Basically redid everything from scratch. Will be adding H202 daily from now on. Roots looked fine. The issue has to be the temperature in the room, because everything is light-tight. The temp, however, went from 70f to close to 80f two days ago, which pretty much has to be the source of the issue. Attempting to get the temps down now. Day 20 - Okay, so I pulled out a super secret weapon to battle my algae problem. Got a small UV fish tank sterilizer pump. Kinda large for a 5 Gallon bucket, but it sucks water in, blasts it with UV, and spits it out again. It also flings water all over the inside of the bucket, keeping O2 in the mix.
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Week 4. Vegetation
6 years ago
12.7 cm
24 hrs
24 °C
5.8
Normal
45 %
24 °C
24 °C
24 °C
19 L
53.34 cm
Nutrients 2
DryPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
DryPart Grow 0.66 mll
DryPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
DryPart Bloom 1.321 mll
Day 22 - Week 3 begins! - A have a lot of anxiety about this whole DWC thing. She's smaller than she should be, and I'm certain that considering her nutrients and PH, I've been doing everything right, apart from maybe underfeeding her until a week or so ago. I've got the sneaking suspicion that she may be permanently stunted. She's showing phosphorous deficiency on her lowest two fan leaves, so I'm going to be switching from Maxigrow to Maxibloom. Autoflowers aren't super hungry for N anyhow so hopefully it's a big shift for the better. She's still growing like crazy, but just WAY behind the other girls. Day 23 - Man. MAN. I have been struggling with cyanobacteria since day one. I have used H202 and pool shock the whole time. I've got her water temp as low as I reasonably can without harming the soil girls (60-70f), and I changed her bucket water again today, after three days. I've reset everything again, and if she's full of brownish goop again in a few days, I'm going to go the other way from sterile and fill her up with Hydroguard to see if that does the trick. She's already relegated to "Experimental Plant" because she's probably stunted, so no harm, no foul at this point. Day 24 - Drinking more. Reduced the odds of light getting into bucket with a printed two piece cutout. She's growing every day but she looks pale and not so happy. The damage to her lowest leaves hasn't spread. Her roots look great but she's just plain not rocking and rolling. Day 25 - HOW ABOUT NO. So while I will try doing DWC again at a later date, I choose to surrender to my own ignorance and failures and put this girl into some soil, where I know what I'm doing. She's stunted, so she's not going to be a monster, but she will at least get a chance to live a more comfortable life out, free of nasty brown glop eating her from below. Put her into a 2.5 gallon pot, because my assumption is that she will be yielding in the grams, rather than ounces, and it isn't worth using a lot of the Great Lakes Water Only soil, which isn't super cheap. Anyway we'll see how she recovers in a proven environment rather than surrounded by suck and fail. Day 26 - Well, moving her to soil had an immediate and drastic result! She grew an inch overnight! She's never going to be a big girl now, but she's doing her best to make up for lost time.
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Week 5. Vegetation
6 years ago
25.4 cm
24 hrs
24 °C
5.8
Normal
45 %
24 °C
24 °C
24 °C
19 L
53.34 cm
Nutrients 1
DryPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
DryPart Bloom 1.321 mll
Day 29 - A rough ride for this girl. She has adjusted to the soil, from the horrors of the failed DWC. I know, for the record, what caused the DWC issues. Was trying to run a sterile DWC, but I had started the seed in a Rapid Rooter, which is all organic, AND was using an organic Calcium/Magnesium supplement. The organic was winning every time I refilled the bucket and she'd fill up with cyanobacteria/brown algae in two to three days. PH would swing wildly as well, and I was resetting the PH almost daily. Finally, her root mass got coated in that wad of brown slime and she started choking for nutrients. Sticking her into some soil after dipping her in an H202 solution seems to have saved her life. Her growth is stunted and she's pretty much doomed to a tiny yield, but I wanted to get her to the finish line anyway. Her new growth is half an inch to one inch a day, and looks fairly healthy. Her old growth looks terrible but is upright and rigid in a healthy way. Day 33 - Day 32 didn't happen. Apologies. Had Dungeons and Dragons to play. :-D - She she grew three inches over two days. She may actually manage to have some sort of future beyond relaxation? We'll see. Day 35 - Well shucks! I'm kinda starting to have a tiny bit of hope for this girl. She's actually recovering far more than I had hoped. I mean she's obviously not going to be throwing ounces at me, but she's really trying her damnedest to make good.
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Week 6. Vegetation
6 years ago
35.56 cm
24 hrs
24 °C
5.8
Normal
45 %
24 °C
24 °C
24 °C
19 L
53.34 cm
Nutrients 1
DryPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
DryPart Bloom 1.321 mll
Day 36 - Well I feel great about this girl. Her DWC was an utter failure, but I thought that she was pretty much just being given a comfortable retirement home when I put her into soil. Just me being sentimental. Well, she's grown a foot in the last week! So while she won't be doing it up like a thug, she may, in fact, throw some genuine bud at us, which is a really pleasant surprise. Day 41 - She she's getting huge now, compared to where she was. About a foot in the last five days. So there's still hope for some sort of yield from this girl after all! Day 42 - As week six ends, she's gone from piss poor to not to shabby!
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Week 7. Flowering
6 years ago
35.56 cm
24 hrs
24 °C
5.8
Normal
45 %
24 °C
24 °C
24 °C
19 L
53.34 cm
Nutrients 1
DryPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
DryPart Bloom 1.321 mll
Day 43 - As week seven begins, I have high hopes for this girl, who has managed to make a significant comeback from her travesty of a DWC attempt. She's beginning to flower, and they're a super dark purple! Looking forward to seeing how she develops and finishes. Day 49 - Rounding out week seven, she's doing well, smelling amazing, like artificial grape flavor and roses.
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Week 8. Flowering
6 years ago
45.72 cm
24 hrs
24 °C
5.8
Strong
45 %
24 °C
24 °C
24 °C
19 L
53.34 cm
Nutrients 1
DryPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
DryPart Bloom 1.321 mll
Day 50 - Into week eight! She STINKS like grape jelly and flowers. She's also so sticky you can lightly tap her buds and the whole stem comes with your finger for a second as you pull away. I'll chalk her off as "A good save". will probably grow another one, directly from soil to begin with, just to see how big this strain *should* have grown if she hadn't had a rough start. Day 53 - This girl smells so good that I'm constantly tempted to run my fingers along her sugar leaves and smell the grapey rosey stank. Day 56 - She absolutely STINKS. Roses and artificial grape flavor filling the room.
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Week 9. Flowering
6 years ago
60.96 cm
24 hrs
24 °C
5.8
Strong
45 %
24 °C
24 °C
24 °C
19 L
53.34 cm
Nutrients 1
DryPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
DryPart Bloom 1.321 mll
Day 57 - Entering week nine! So she's got symptoms of calcium deficiency but is putting out buds like a monster. Her smell is still an extremely potent rosey grape reek and I'm constantly tempted to touch her buds and sniff my fingers. In the next grow I'll be doing up two more of this strain to see how well they grow in soil, minus the stunting this girl suffered due to the DWC failure. Day 63 - She she just suddenly decided to rocket up another few inches? Okay! Her colas are purple, packed, and overpoweringly smelly. She's got another week and she's almost rage-growing lol. IMMA BE EEEEEWGE IF'N I CAN. Kinda regret the 2.5 gallon pot.
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Week 10. Flowering
6 years ago
60.96 cm
24 hrs
24 °C
5.8
Strong
45 %
24 °C
24 °C
24 °C
19 L
53.34 cm
Nutrients 3
DryPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
DryPart Bloom 0.66 mll
HyperBloom - Terra Aquatica
HyperBloom 0.33 mll
Mammoth P - Mammoth Microbes
Mammoth P 0.159 mll
Day 64 - Week ten! Throwing some Koolbloom into the mix, along with Mammoth P now. Giving her another seven days or so to fill out but she's looking pretty done. The smell is pretty much drowning out the smells of every other plant in the room.
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Week 10. Harvest
6 years ago
Happy Harvest Day!
Spent 71 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
292.28 g
Bud wet weight per plant
68.04 g
Bud dry weight per plant
1
Plants
0.74
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Normal
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Creative, Euphoric, Happy
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Berries, Flowery, Sweet
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So I gave this girl and the Grapefruit Auto the chop today. They were both done as done but could have gone for another day or two with no problem. However, the Mephisto Ghost Toof DWC is starting to get pompoms and was looking a little bit crowded in, so I wanted to give her a bit more space, so the chop these girls got. If you've followed this grow, this girl was my first, failed attempt at a DWC grow. I made the mistake of using an organic Cal/Mag supplement while trying to run a sterile DWC, which lead to repeated outbreaks of brown algae. In the end, I pulled her out of the DWC, looking pretty bad, on day 25, and stuck her into a 2.5 gallon pot, not hoping for more than a harvest measured in grams. I'd still have been able to sample the strain, and know how soon I'd want to take another crack at it. I should have put her into a six gallon pot like the other girls, because she recovered like gangbusters and would have yielded a lot more had she had the room. But that's okay, as I have a couple more seeds and I'll be trying her again in the next grow. I didn't from this girl, learn to take the chance with a girl that I think is stunted. Give 'em a shot, because they may surprise you.
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Philindicus
Philindicuscommentedweek 46 years ago
How are the roots doing? Is the root mass getting big?
Hexus
Hexuscommented6 years ago
@Philindicus, I hope so!
Philindicus
Philindicuscommented6 years ago
@Hexus,I'm sure you'll get it down pat after doing a few grows.
Hexus
Hexuscommented6 years ago
@Philindicus, re: H202 - Both! I throw H2O2 in every day, and each week I use a tiny bit (.2 grams) of pool shock to keep her sterile. I also have an aquarium UV sterilizer pump in her bucket. (Does not expose the roots to light, it's an enclosed pump affair.) As the H202 breaks down it increases the O2 levels. As the pool shock breaks down it increases calcium. I kind of went crazy because every four days or so she was developing brown algae so I dropped the hammer on her HARD. Finally got the temperature in the grow space down to 69-70f, so that shouldn't be as much of an issue now. It's my first DWC so I'm learning a lot, lol.
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Philindicus
Philindicuscommentedweek 16 years ago
Looks like you've been very busy.
Hexus
Hexuscommented6 years ago
@Philindicus, haven't yet. I'm all up to date here, so everything you see is everything I've grown. All Great Lakes Water Only soil and this one. I didn't do more DWC because we're in the country a bit and power outages are fairly common this time of year. I did, however, buy a single backup air pump for live bail that uses D cell batteries which can get me through an outage. If this girl goes really well, I might consider eventually moving over to DWC for all of the 2x4 grows. Seems like a higher risk, higher reward setup where the risk can be avoided by reading a lot. :-D Coco is on the table still. I have a 50 pound bag of it in the grow room, waiting to be used when I'm ready for it. My main thing is trying to avoid the temptation of Coir, which seems to be a gigantic feed regimen full of optimization and piles of product. If I can force myself to do it up using a small number of inexpensive nutes like these grows I'll probably do it for the next grow. Ideally I'd use exactly what I'm using on this girl.
Philindicus
Philindicuscommented6 years ago
@Hexus,No rush,It does take up a lot of time and to keep tracked of photos. I see your trying some fast buds and a few others. Going to see if I can try some mephisto on my next grow. I want to see how your plants do with your new set up. Did you already grow in coco coir?
Hexus
Hexuscommented6 years ago
@Philindicus, Been holding back. :-D Take pics every day of every plant, but I didn't have time to log all of them here every day. Took like an hour with just the first four. First grow was nine plants, now all logged, but a couple I didn't do in real time. These five new strains are daily and in real time again. Trying to put together a daily routine that is consistent. A setup series, one pic a day per plant until nearing the end, and then two pics (One cola, one full plant) for a couple weeks running up to the end, and then the harvest pics. <<
Hulk_itisatumor
Hulk_itisatumorcommentedweek 26 years ago
Can't wait to see the results, What is the best yeld you have ever gotten off of one LSD - 25 auto?
Hulk_itisatumor
Hulk_itisatumorcommented6 years ago
@Hexus, Awesome I Also have two LSD 25 going!
Hexus
Hexuscommented6 years ago
@Hulk_itisatumor, This is the first, so you'll know shortly after I do! :-D It's also my first DWC so "If I don't accidentally murder her." can also apply. She seems to be doing alright, but she's growing more slowly than her dirt sisters. I've heard that that can be the case so I'm not worrying yet. She's getting bigger by the day.
Philindicus
Philindicuscommentedweek 66 years ago
She grew like crazy. I would hold off on the nutes a bit and give water until her leaves stop curling you could be pushing her a bit too hard.
Hexus
Hexuscommented6 years ago
@Philindicus, I agree. Watered her four days ago with half strength nutes (Maxibloom). Her roots were a tiny little wad when I put her into the dirt. However, she's in an amended supersoil so it was probably a little hot to feed her until she's expanded her roots throughout the soil. To be honest, I had no idea that she was going to thrive in any way after I pulled her out of the DWC, so my only goal was to keep her alive and let her have her little, no-yield life. She wasn't having that, so now I have a stunted but very growy girl that I'm having to watch carefully. :-D She'll never be a chunker, but I think she may have been worth keeping around.
Philindicus
Philindicuscommentedweek 26 years ago
I tried one of those rapid rooters once. It seemed like the tap root was stuggling to grow through it they were like they're kind of spongee. Never tried hydro but I see some growers using rock wool plugs wonder if they would be a little easier for the roots to grow through. Just a thought.
Hexus
Hexuscommented6 years ago
@Philindicus, Yeah they are sold as DWC items but I don't see a lot of people using them. Rock Wool will probably be the future solution, if I end up doing more DWC.
GreasyLuigi
GreasyLuigicommentedweek 106 years ago
Very good yield, congrats! I have two of these blooming right now, i hope I can get similar results as you
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