Blue Cookies Outdoor Grow

@CoastGrower, thanks again bro

@CoastGrower, i understand that but they have been on this cycle since seedlings and were fine. the only chages made in the week was the grow lights and the spider mite issue. since then they i have carried up the lights 6 inches and the plants have gone back to a more usual growth of abt 0.6 - 1" a day. monday they were 28.5 and today they are already 30". the growth i got for 2 days was similar to the entire week 9 lol. the lights may have been the problem so i will see if things start to get back to normal this week edit: the wattage and spectrum have significantly increased and that may have actually shocked them to be honest. all levels remain the same or very close and they have now started to grow normally again. thanks for the input and since u mentioned it i was pondering how until i checked the lights i got and saw they put out about 1100umol PAR at 12 inches and abt 850 or 900umol at 18 inches. both are very high for vegging with no additional CO2 so i guess since i carried them up about 6 inches that helped

@Verlido, Thx fam. Hoping nothing else goes wrong before harvest

@Wadadli_Kush, Very well thinking! Its urine that fucked up your PH 😞 Sorry for your loss

@Strife957, Yea i just dont underatand how that could happen so quick. I foliar fed both plants around 6pm before dark and woke up to her being half dead. Saw pee on the pot for plant1 but the new 14gal pot is tall so none could hit the tree or soil direct which made me suspicious towards the other plant that was sitting much lower

@Wadadli_Kush, Sorry, I didn't mean to say I *know* they're root or space bound. It just looked like that from some of the pictures, difficult to say, you had it listed at 7 liter but I couldn't quite tell. Like even now if I look at the pictures, it doesn't look like 30+ liter (7 gallon or so), it's a bit weird. Honest guess from the pics would be about 10-15 liters. If you say it's bigger than 7 gallon, that's pretty good. I'll give you a vague estimate of what I got from my 20l (4.5 gallon) pots (virtually no manual stress/fimming/topping, etc though, they had harsh enough conditions, so you could probably do better, wider but shallower pots than mine would also help), which is around 125g dry per plant. I've had some 2.2m plants in crap 20 liter pots. So disregard what I said about the space, with like 50 liters (11 gallon) I could probably grow 3m+ plants. That plant pictured was about 2.2m tall, roughly, 30 cm space on 2 of the sides, with a bit more space on 2 of the other sides (though not that much, other thiings growing around it, etc). That was actually the smallest plant I had in soil (due to stress, incredibly high peak temps, lots of rain/storms, dog broke it when it was younger, etc), even though it technically had a bit more space. https://growdiaries.s3-accelerate.amazonaws.com/static/post/photo/19262/929766_african-bagseedscustomsativa-dominant-hybrids.jpg The plants there are spaced 60cm apart, some of them are almost 4m tall. That was a bit more than 2 weeks ago, they're all supported due to weight/density now, some of them have been harvested. https://growdiaries.s3-accelerate.amazonaws.com/static/post/photo/19262/1015040_continuation-of-first-growcustomsativa-dominant-hybrids.jpg That's what it looked like recently...

@@Ssomeguy, those buds look amazing btw!!!!!! i wish i could get each one close to those in density 😊 but that looks like a really big tree tho

@@Ssomeguy, thanks how can u tell if they are space or rootbound? i have them in grocery bags that i use as fabric air pots 😁. they are bigger than my 7gal regular pots but not quite sure about their volume. at the moment each plant in the pots weigh about 50lbs never thought of that way to estimate while on the tree and it only make sense because thats how you do it after harvest. after a few more weeks of veg i will flip to flower and see how it goes

@Wadadli_Kush, Sooo hot! You and your neighbors have bigger concerns with heat that dangerous. Best wishes with that. If it’s consolation, some of the best weed I’ve enjoyed grew in horribly hot, dry conditions. There wasn’t much of it, but it was really good! If they survive the heat, it will be due to trichomes production as a means of self preservation. I marvel at how cannabis adapts to nearly any condition. Tomatoes, rice, beans etc are picky. Not good ole cannabis! Hang in there! Should be an interesting harvest.

@growdoctordc, thank you and you are right. i did outdoor and organic to get better flavour, scent and more trichomes because of our weather conditions at this time of year. In june/july the avg temp, avg humidity and daylights hours are nearly perfect to achieve maximum potency for outdoor grown plants but......... A heat wave just hit the island and possible region so humidity is way down and the temps have gone up to 109 degrees so far and i know this is stressful and inhibits growth and many other things so im hopings things get better pretty soon or else i may be forced to flower them indoors.

@Wadadli_Kush, Yeah that looks VERY potent. I would suggest you should use very little of it, and gradually increase until about a few weeks before harvesting (unless you notice nutrient burn). Be careful with that, the phosphorus content is VERY high. I won't lie, I'd use that atm though, for my own plants. I'm struggling for phosphorus a bit.

@@Ssomeguy, thanks for a the hep along the way. i kinda figured rhey would want those as well so i bought a product called Sugar Express by Miller Nutrients. will add pics to next weeks update and i might start using this as soon as tomorrow 😁 Not much info online but here is a link to view the product: https://millerchemical.com/products_detail.php?id=14

@Wadadli_Kush, Yeah I also looking forward to your grow update next week! ✌️🏻

@GrowBeforeHoe, thanks. real encouraging fam! its been a real treat watching them grow over the last few months cant wait to see what happens in the next couple weeks

@Wadadli_Kush, You doing a good job. LST is a pretty effective way to increase your yield. 👍

@GrowBeforeHoe, Thanks. This is my first grow in the last 15+ yrs and the first time im doing any training other than topping when i was much younger trying to grow plants 😊

@@Ssomeguy, Thanks. Its definitely been a learning experience and 1 thing i know for sure is that i wont be using anything from AN unless it has the PH Perfect technology in it. I hope your plant bounces back and you are able to reap the rewards for such a long grow. i prefer organic growing so i will jump back on the guano train...........seabird, bat and rabbit to be specific.

@Puffer_Bill, thx bro

@GrowBeforeHoe, thx 😊

@CoastGrower, thx 😊👊

@DeaneR, thanks 👊👊👊........seeing your plants was very encouraging for me. cant wait to see how they turn out in full bloom

@Puffer_Bill, thx 👊

@Wadadli_Kush, Well I can't actually get potassium bicarb here, for some reason or another. It should be available where you are, I'm sure there are some sites with info for reasonable directions, unfortunately I can't say. Otherwise something like ash has a fair amount of potassium carbonate (note, not bicarbonate), apparently. This was not spider mite related though, but because it relates to potassium carbonate...Initially I used some hydrogen peroxide, then an ash "tea" as a foliar spray on some of my plants after I read about it. Though I'd guess a bit too late, since that was after I got some issues on a couple of plants. But it seems to have at least somewhat halted mildew on the problematic plants. In terms of teas that seemed to work...well, it's very difficult to say, but I used some alliums (garlic/onion-like stuff), chili, marigold, rosemary a bunch of other plants randomly growing here, typical stuff like lemon juice, etc. I honestly can't specifically recommend something, since I reacted based on what happened, without much knowledge and no experience. I also can't recommend any pesticide/insecticide product, either (I don't buy any) and I also didn't really get spider mite issues... so specifically for mites, especially, not much I can say. But in general, one of my simpler approaches is usually to simply spray stuff with plain (cold) water. Edit: I just read that, apparently, that was common before industrial pesticides and stuff. And I mean, as a very basic option, it might be worth considering (I used to spray my plants down a lot in summer, due to extreme heat, maybe that prevented mites?) https://www.rollitup.org/t/spider-mites-use-water.97714/

@@Ssomeguy, very good read and i understand where you are coming from now. these companies try to hide the negatives and the retailers n department stores down here just dont mind selling whats on their shelf to make a sale 😔 looks like no more diazinon for me. i actually hanlded it without gloves with a mist bottle i use for foliar feeding so u can imagjne what damage ive already done to myself in that short space of time lol. which pesticide/ insecticide would you recommend or which recipe gave the best results to you ? also the potassium bi carbonate sounds very interesting..........how would i go about mixing something like that?

@Wadadli_Kush, "A lot of food u probably consumed or that was grown to be ingredients in the food you consume was already treated with this chemical at some point im sure." Yes, I'm sure, but I also avoid that stuff now if I can. If you use that stuff, that's your choice. But no way can you convince me of that organophosphate shit, developed by say, the makers of DDT, being okay. Just like you couldn't convince me of glyphosate being okay. I don't think it has minimal effects, I could be wrong. One thing I can suggest before and in flower for mildew/mold resistance (and potassium and carbon foliar feed) is probably potassium (bi)carbonate. Other than that, I can't say much. Sticky tape works well against some pests like gnats, covering top soil with sand if necessary, etc. I've also made a bunch of teas and homemade "fungicides" and "pesticides", no real idea about how effective that is/was, but anyway, I don't have too many problems. There's a lot I could say about that sort of stuff, but I'm tired. "Developmental and Reproductive Toxicology of Pesticides Poorni Iyer, Susan Makris, in Hayes' Handbook of Pesticide Toxicology (Third Edition), 2010 12.5.2.10 Diazinon This organophosphate insecticide has been tested extensively and yielded variable results for reproductive and developmental endpoints. Spyker and Avery in 1977 exposed pregnant mice (9 mg/kg) and observed behavioral effects and functional impairments in overtly normal offspring along with neuropathology in the forebrain. The standard developmental toxicity studies in rats and rabbits do not demonstrate adverse effects (CDPR, 2009). In another review malormations were not reported in hamsters and rabbits, but renal, rib, limb and anomalies of the central nervous system and digits were noted in rats, and skull and teeth abnormalities were noted in puppies (Schardein, 1993). In both one-generation and two-generation reproduction studies, a variety of adverse effects were observed. These include a decrease in the gestation index (number of litters with live offspring/number pregnant), a reduction in ovarian weights, and a prolonged gestation length. The reproduction NOAEL < 10 ppm (1 mg/kg/day) or LOEL = 10 ppm (CDPR, 2009). Behavioral effects were confirmed in neurotoxicity studies in rats (CDPR, 2009). Recently in rats, neonatal diazinon exposure, at doses below the threshold for cholinesterase inhibition, demonstrated effects on emotional responses altering serotonergic synaptic function. The effects were preferential in males with no significant effects for females. The outcomes examined reflect different aspects of emotionality such as: (1) decreased venturing into the open arms in the elevated plus maze – typically interpreted as increase in anxiety; (2) loss of preference for sweetened liquids – characteristic of anhedonia, a typical component of animal models of depression (Roegge et al., 2008). Some inhibition of acetyl cholinesterase with a higher dose reversed the cognitive impairment and this nonmonotonic dose–effect function has also been seen with neurochemical effects. While some of the diazinon effects on cognition resemble those seen earlier for chlorpyrfos, some differ suggesting that diazinon and chlorpyrifos affect transmitter systems supporting memory function differently." Notice the fairly broad damage, but also, despite "extensive" testing (which is never influenced by lobbying and deception and such), no mention of effects on humans, or the more general environmental damage. Then something like: "Diazinon, an organophosphate pesticide, induces oxidative stress and genotoxicity in cells deriving from large intestine" https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11356-015-5519-y If you read carefully, you notice it has high lipid solubility, so damage is cumulative and latent. Which is perfect if you use it for obese people buying toxic "food".