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Jwjoh Jwjoh
5 years ago
Canada for the win! (Yes I'm using Miracle Grow, I've had lots of success with it and it's super cheap! When I get 2 weeks into flowering, I'll use some of the more expensive purpose-specific stuff rather than MG, and then will flush at 6 weeks of flowering so the plants use up their internal nutrients). My soil is some local grow medium from a nearby farm. I've found chunks of horse poo and twigs in it (I picked out most of the twigs). I used the same soil this past spring/summer to grow an awesome garden to test it out before growing cannabis in it. Since I'm doing an indoor grow in a 2x2x5 Secret Jardin DS60, I sterilized the soil in the oven by pre-heating the oven to 275F, filling a big turkey roasting pan with the soil (lots of water in it, but not muddy!) with a BBQ thermometer buried halfway down in it and covering with the roasting pan lid... Got the soil up to 190F and then turned the oven down to around 190, opened the oven door for a minute to let the main heat escape and stabilize the inside of the oven a bit... then kept the soil between 188 and 192 for 30 minutes. Let it cool naturally. It took many times of doing this but I'm patient. I also boiled some rocks from the driveway to line the bottom of the pots to keep the dirt from flowing out the drainage holes. I have a 300-watt-equivalent LED setup with heatsink and fan, and a 189 CFM-CAPABLE (have a rheostat set to about 30 CFM, that's all this tent needs) fan pulling air at the bottom of the tent and pushing it out through a carbon filter, with a blackout/filter screen over the air inlet hole at the top. Climate control is performed via an air conditioner during the day and an electric space heater at night. Light cycle is 18/6, running from about 4am til 10pm. In the previous week, they had stopped growing and were starting to yellow between (but not including) the veins and the edges were "tacoing" slightly. Normally I water with distilled water, but we're on a well (live on a farm) whose pH just happens to be right around 6.6, so I completely flushed both plants until about 2 gallons of water had poured out the bottom of each one, there was some nasty reddish orange water coming out. May have been nutrient or salt buildup. Then I fed with the CaliMagic, Miracle Grow, and pH down to 6.3 in distilled water combination listed in this week's grow diary. By the end of this week (week 3) the colour had returned and they were growing like, well, weeds. When I planted them, I purposely planted in less soil so they'd start sprouting about 4 inches down from the top level of the pot. Today at the final day of week 3, I pruned off the lower 2 sets of limbs and filled with dirt, then watered with a mixture of half-strength CaliMagic and distilled water, pH downed to 6.3 -- not a normal watering, just enough to make sure I soaked the new soil on the top layer. Now I have more stem support in the dirt, only 7-leaf pattern (yeah call me picky), and the stem part that got buried will grow roots! So technically the plants were about 8 inches tall and I just halved that. Which is fine with me, because a patient older person who is in it for the long haul, at least 10 weeks of veg before flowering! I noticed some slight clawing in the leaves, so I'm going to hold off on giving them any more Miracle Grow. They may stunt for a few days while they adjust -- but now I'll just let them grow in peace, other than some fimming, topping, and/or defloration at some point. I eventually want to try LST, but I'm really looking forward to this harvest as I recently fell in love with 8BK and don't want to try anything too fancy this time. I plan to create two clones out of the best one of these two plants and then grow those next -- one of which I will try LST.
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Grow Questions
Jwjoh
Jwjohstarted grow question 5 years ago
5 gallon pot, in middle of 4th week veg, roots already starting to come out the bottom drain holes! Should I be worried about binding? I thought 5 gal would be more than enough for the whole grow? What happens if too much root comes out the drain hole, do I clip it back?
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Wicked_Stixanswered grow question 5 years ago
Hey there a 5 gallon pot will be plenty of space to grow them. You dont have to worry about the roots. They will naturally die off at the ends and branch out to find water in other places. You can look up info on "air pruning" the plant naturally does it when roots grow out of soil. Hope this eases your concerns. They look like they are off to a great start. Good luck.
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TrueNorth
TrueNorthweek 11
👌👌 love the diary
Jwjoh
Jwjoh
@TrueNorth, thanks :D
Punchman
Punchmanweek 9
Dope looking lady 👍🏽💯
Jwjoh
Jwjoh
@Punchman, thanks!! :D Just gotta try to keep it that way for the next few weeks.
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Jwjohweek 4
Bought a 100 pack of 18oz "solo cups" for $6, two $0.95 2-liter bottles of soda that I may or may not drink, but plan to build "cloning chambers" for solo cups to sit in ;), and a $12 tub of Miracle Grow rooting powder (what can I say, Cheapee McCheapington is my best friend). Plan for the "cloning chambers", is to boil a bunch of small-ish rocks from the driveway. Cut the bottom of the 2 liter off about an inch or two up from the bottom. Fill the indentations in the bottom with rocks to create a level surface. Open up holes in the bottom of the solo cup, and put a few rocks in for weight/to help hold soil behind the drain holes. Fill with sterilized soil (I have some expensive cannabis-specific soil for this which has the nutrients to support clones through the first couple weeks). Transplant clone straight into solo cup soil after prepping (should work just fine, may take longer to root but I'm in no hurry). Force the remaining part of the 2 liter bottle down onto the bottom part (it won't line up perfectly but I can get a pretty good seal). Then I can open the cap to spray water down in or to air it out a little if it's too damp! I'll also drill a few small holes in the bottom part of the 2 liter before I put the rocks in, and maybe one or two small ones up top for flow, because I don't want to completely suffocate the clones. I'll be around to spray them a couple times a day or air them out or whatever needs to be done! Once they take root, I'm going to move them under a low powered light that will hopefully keep them growing slowly while the main ones flower. I'll prune fan leaves or whatever as I need to as well to keep them as small as possible for now. Will this work? I don't know. Is it worth a try with $20 of materials that would support 100 future clones without needing to buy anything else? Absolutely.
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@Jwjoh, I bury mine about 2 inches. It wont cause any problems.
Jwjoh
Jwjoh
@Wicked_Stix, here's a cloning question for ya if you don't mind. Everything I'm reading says to bury about an inch or so of the clone's stem in whatever cloning medium I'm using. If I were to bury more of the stem, say 2 inches, for more support and rooting surface area -- would there be anything wrong with doing so?
Jwjoh
Jwjoh
@Wicked_Stix, I too try to use anything free I can get or have lying around, "MacGyvering" stuff is an art form LOL. I had to buy a decent tent/lighting/ventilation setup though because the only place I can grow in privacy, locked away from the kids who would need a key to get in, is an 8x8 office/mancave.
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Jwjohweek 3
The answer to my grow question was awesome! After reading about air pruning, I now understand that it's actually a GOOD thing if a couple roots poke out the drain holes here and there, it causes them to stop growing in that direction and branch out elsewhere, creating a healthy root pattern :)
Jwjoh
Jwjoh
@Wicked_Stix, :O alright, the new growth has all been pretty dark green up until this point. Thanks though, if you don't see a problem then I'm happy.
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@Jwjoh, I dont see anything wrong with it at all. The new growth being lighter is pretty normal. I would flip to flower whenever you are ready.
Jwjoh
Jwjoh
@Wicked_Stix, if I might ask you another question please? I took a clone from each plant and then topped the main branch. I've read that topping the main branch will spread growth hormones through the rest of the colas that have formed. (I have 15 total between the two plants!) Three days later, I think there's a fair amount of growth happening at the other cola sites but it's hard to tell. On both plants, the new growth is yellow in the middle of the new leaves. The tips are still darker green. The old growth remains unchanged as far as I can tell. It almost seems like a nitrogen deficiency. Both plants are now sucking down water as well, the top inch of soil dries out in 36 hours after a run-off watering. Yesterday evening a few hours before dark period began, I topped them off with 1/4 strength miracle grow and calimagic, and I _think_ this started turning the leaves green about an hour or so later. This morning though I woke up and the yellowing has come back. My theory is that topping spread the growth hormone out so the plant is focusing on it elsewhere, causing all these extra colas to bloom out, which is sucking down nitrogen and possibly other nutrients... But I'm curious what someone with experience has to say!! I want to flick over to flowering this Friday but I don't want to risk it if the plants aren't stable :( UPDATE: I'm now thinking maybe an Iron Deficiency?
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Jwjohweek 8
Snagged up some Girl Scout Cookie and Bubblegum feminized seeds for future grows :D
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Jwjohweek 7
Next grow, I will be more proactive and less reactive. Basically this time I'm just fudging my way through it, learning by reacting to situations as they occur rather than preventing them from happening in the first place. Fortunately for me, 8BK is very forgiving. To cure the deficiency/ies in plant A, I've ordered some Bud Blaster which is high in Phosphorus and Potassium, something like 1-51-34 if I remember correctly. Thanks to @BC_CropGoddess for posting a picture of the label of this stuff! I believe it is exactly what my plants need. It should be here Tuesday. Clone B is showing Nitrogen Overload, and clone A started curling up today. The soil I put them in says it has enough starter nutrients for the first couple weeks, well it's been a couple weeks. I think I had salts building up in the soil, so I flushed both solo cups. We'll see what happens. I have some 5-liter buckets coming too, which I'll move the clones to... I plan to mix the soil with a hefty amount of perlite, probably a 1:1 ratio. I also will be creating a new diary for them at the end of this week, as "week 1" for them since they're both rooted now (even though clone A rooted an entire week before clone B). Haven't decided if I'm going to keep these as moms and pull clones off them for growing... or if I'm just going to grow out these clones and then order another set of seeds. I think I'll know more about how I want to proceed once I see the yield of my work this time around. If I were to get several ounces between the two plants I'm flowering now (high expectations for my first grow but I'm staying positive), I'll probably just grow one more round of 8BK with the two clones and grow something different! My primary goal for growing is to eventually stop paying for cannabis. If I can achieve that result year-round, I'll be happy...
Jwjoh
Jwjohweek 6
Middle of week 7: Still waiting on clone B, but clone A has rooted! It's perked up and the top leaves doubled in size in 24 hours. Also, the yellowing got even worse... so I fed each plant 10x the dose of miracle grow I normally give them, just for kicks (figured I can always flush out if I need to) and they are finally slowly starting to turn green again :)
Jwjoh
Jwjohweek 5
NOTE: I must have FIMed my FIM, because the leaves just started growing back the way they were on both plants?!?!?!?!?!?!?! They just carried on like I did nothing. So, last night I topped them both. I also removed a second fan leaf on plant A to better help expose colas. I woke up this morning AND THEY ARE STILL F'ING GROWING like I did nothing at all to them (except of course now I've got multiple colas shooting out that also literally sprouted over night). 8BK is an amazing plant for the growing process itself. RE: Clones, I think they are both already starting to root. The day after I put them in the chambers, the leaves were curling a bit. Today, they've uncurled and look great. I swear there's also already some minor new growth on clone B, but that might just be my imagination.
Jwjoh
Jwjohweek 4
Excited to spend my weekly fun time with the plants tomorrow. I'll be attempting to start my clones. Spent about an hour tonight reading up on cloning, FIMing, and topping as well as selecting my clone sites and finalizing plans. After setting up the clones and applying more LST as needed, I think I'm going to top plant B and FIM plant A. Then see where I'm at the following week -- if the main plants have recovered and the clones have rooted well, I may start flowering as I'm going to run out of horizontal space :/ Wishing I had a 3x3 instead of a 2x2!
Jwjoh
Jwjohweek 4
Only at the beginning of the 5th week, but man... I thought plant A was going to be the amazing one because of the growth pattern. Turns out plant B is a rockstar. Plant A responds horribly to nutrients and to light. It's 30 inches away from the grow light and still wants less. Plant B is the "uglier" of the two plants but has turned out to grow like a weed. Resilient to light. spaced out nicely. After LST, plant B exploded (it's only about 30 hours after I bent the main stem over and gave it some nutrients, and it's bushed out like CRAZY!! Can't wait to share pics) If this keeps up, I'll likely just make multiple clones of B as it seems to grow well. (but of course still plenty of time to see what happens)