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5 years ago
I am not sure if she has transitioned into flowering, but she looks a lot more healthy now that I give her correct values for nutrients. Gonna move over to the bloom nutrients now, and spend time on figuring out what to buy to give her even better care :) Day 31 - She is starting to look really good now, I think :) Day 32 - The LST-technique and fan leaf tucking let the light reach nodes and internodes (??) seems to work pretty good. I'm pretty sure these techniques I've applied will increase my yield compared to not doing anything :) All in all, very happy about this grow so far. Day 34 - Very happy about the training and how she is growing. To me she just looks healthy and grows fast.
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moshcann
moshcannstarted grow question 5 years ago
This is my first grow. Is it reasonable to water her 1 liter water now? Water means tap water with 4 ml of each Advanced Nutrient pH Perfect Sensi Coco Grow A and Advanced Nutrient pH Perfect Sensi Coco Grow B. She seems very thirsty.
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MarcXL
MarcXLanswered grow question 5 years ago
I would reccomend watering every few days when the first leaves start to hang down and the coco feels dry. Then add water slowly till the pot is saturated and you get some drain. That should do the job for several days. The roots get nutrition when wet and some oxigen when the coco is drying, thats what you should aim for. Much better than watering every day. Also I see your plants are saturated with nutrition, the leaves are dark green what tells me they are full of nitrogen. No problem till now but when you see burnt leaf tips its time to lower the nutrition dose. I wouls try 2ml/L of nutes the next weeks till the colour brightens up a bit or when first undernutrition signs show up.
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happytrees
happytreescommentedweek 15 years ago
Very clean photos and workspace. It looks like you've done a lot of research to properly prep for your first grow. Progress is looking great. Best of luck. Will keep an eye on this. 💪 Only thing I would suggest, since you're germinating in that huge pot, is to slightly warm it up at night and keep it between 75-80f while you're rooting. Substrate temp will always be cooler than ambient, similar to liquids at room temp. This should help you root way faster. Also, under medium up top, you can put your diary under 'soilless' for coco, rather than hydroponics.
Bashgrowsitall1989
Bashgrowsitall1989commented5 years ago
@moshcann, You could also try a greenhouse heater I run one of these under neath that trays my plants sit on and this gives good root temp and causes humidity too from the heat being under and above the soil. I've also noticed that they dry out alot quicker setup like this
JuicyFruit
JuicyFruitcommented5 years ago
@moshcann, no problem man, i usually try to keep the temps between 22-25c oil heater has worked wonders for me haha. good luck!
moshcann
moshcanncommented5 years ago
@JuicyFruit, Thanks a lot! I just put in a small oil heater in the room. Hopefully it will give the needed heat :)
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happytrees
happytreescommentedweek 75 years ago
Unfortunately, your autofllower is now heavily stunted due to all that stress during her most vital phases. The dry spell stunted it even further while she was trying to pick up from previous stress. This week was crucial to get dialed in for that recovery 😥 You absolutely cannot let coco dry at all. Doing that will also spike your salts, forcing you to flush. Being an autoflower under that much stress in the first half of her life, this has tremendously stunted growth. You will still get buds, but your auto is way past her stretching phase right now and is putting energy into budding. The thing is, there isn't much real estate to bud on and you already have a few pistils turning amber. A stunted autoflower that far in age and size, will probably get you 7-14g of popcorn nugs if you're lucky. That's not bad for a personal yield that gets you first time learning experience. Autoflowers are very particular and sensitive to stress, which makes it much harder for beginners to learn with. If you get a bad week with an autoflower, that's it. You lose that week. They continue transitioning without recovering much of what they lost that week. A photo period plant with a bad week is much easier to recover from, as they 'backtrack' to regain what they lost. A good example of that are the growers you see, adding a recovery week following a stressful training phase like topping. Topping and training delay the veg phase, which doesn't work for all autos. Super-autos are a different story with longer grow cycles that allow topping/fimming when timed right. Those are usually 10-14 week strains. I probably sound like a blabbering know it all and I don't intend to insult you. I also started with an autoflower my first time about 10 years ago. You DO NOT want to see what I ended up with.. LOL It was a hard lesson learned and guidance was tough to find. Since you are using AN, do a search on "Tangs Easy Auto Feeding Schedule" That should help you stay in line on your feed and rates. I would totally plan on starting over with your newfound experience. Grow this one out and see what you can get out of it though! P.S Don't foliar spray/or spray water, or whatever that is, in flower. Budsites should never get wet. This could lead to mold issues and budrot. Also again, NEVERRRRR LET COCO DRY! 😅
moshcann
moshcanncommented5 years ago
@happytrees Thanks a lot, again :) I will try to get a hold of non-autos. I actually bought some auto seeds because I thought it would be easier, but as of this experience, changing the light cycle is not the most advanced part :)
happytrees
happytreescommented5 years ago
@moshcann, Photoperiod indica dom strains are definitely very forgiving to the beginner grower. Blue mystic is one of those. Have grown it a few times. Very relaxing. If you go with the auto version, check out this feed schedule. I followed it to the T around the year he made that post and it worked out great. There may be an updated one out there, I'm not sure. This one worked for me and I averaged roughly 3oz chopped, seed to harvest in about 2.5 months. https://www.autoflower.net/forums/threads/tangs-new-improved-feeding-schedule.34408/
moshcann
moshcanncommented5 years ago
@happytrees Thanks a lot, I don't take it as an insult at all. I am very happy for your comment, it makes me learn this stuff. Thanks a lot for all these tips. I will definitely incorporate them into the next grow which will probably be an blue mystic auto from RQS. Or maybe I will even go with a photoperiod. Sounds easier to start with actually :) Edit: This has also been an experiment to see what it takes to grow a plant :) Again, thanks a lot for the comment, it really makes me thrive for more knowledge :)
happytrees
happytreescommentedweek 35 years ago
"It is day 20 now, and I'm not sure if she is healthy or not." She's missing a lot of nitrogen right now and could use a boost of that. If you haven't increased feed rates since day 19, she's been looking hungry since then and that could be why your leaves are yellowing. Could be somewhere around 5-600ppm right now and be safe. She's developed enough tolerate it. If that's not, it looks like ph lockout. Ph perfect doesn't always hold true, so I would check that to make sure as well. My tap water contains buffers, so "ph perfect" would come out to 7.0ph after mixing. That was a hard lesson learned. Good luck, hope that helps
moshcann
moshcanncommented5 years ago
@happytrees, Thanks a lot for your help! I will read about those later tonight, and probably buy some of them. Seems like an actually simple investment, since I'm doing this to save money and be able to spend money I would normally use on weed, on good stuff that helps society :) The plant looks a lot better today (day 27) thanks to your comment :) It means a lot to see that you help me out with your comments like that :) Thanks <3
happytrees
happytreescommented5 years ago
@moshcann, Looks like a good recovery this week. I would recommend some kind of root microbe inoculant to help stimulate more growth and nutrient uptake. They thrive in it. Great White or something similar in your region. Also, if you can get your hands on unpasteurized coconut water or freeze dried coconut water powder, look into that at a rate of 15ml/l in your normal feed. It's an amazing root stimulant filled with natural plant hormones that boost growth exponentially. Check out studies on it. Any kind of natural root stimulant containing those hormones (cytokinins, zeatin) will help reduce stress and stimulate tons of root growth and tight internodes up top. Fresh young coconut is easily found at the supermarket. SST is also another method of providing those natural plant hormones, but it's a lot more work and a bit messy. A good blend of fulvic/humic/kelp/carbs would benefit you with those microbes as well. Liquid karma and floralicious plus are 2 I can think of that you can look into. You want to do as much as possible with her in this phase because she's an autoflower. Before she triggers herself to start budding, you want her to fill out as much root and vegetative growth as possible. You got a good open window until about day 40-50. You absolutely don't need to do any of that. You'll still get a harvest regardless. Just some things to look into if you're curious. Happy trails
moshcann
moshcanncommented5 years ago
@happytrees, Thanks a lot. I just re-read the feeding instructions on the bottle after I read your comment and I have been feeding her 1/4 of what I should have during veg. I just gave her a new feeding and will upload a new image that will start a new week. Your comment means a lot, and it helped me find the solution, thanks :)
Bashgrowsitall1989
Bashgrowsitall1989commentedweek 55 years ago
i wouldn't change too bloom nutes until at least week 6 or 7 as you will stop upwards growth and the plant will focus on budding, at this size you dont want that as you're yield will be low, hold off the bloom nutes and keep vegging for 2 more weeks and see the difference in size
moshcann
moshcanncommented5 years ago
@Bashgrowsitall1989, Thanks, I will do that :)
I_and_I
I_and_Icommentedweek 25 years ago
Respect mate setup looking boss, look forward to seeing progress :)
moshcann
moshcanncommented5 years ago
@I_and_I,Thank you :)
Belverde
Belverdecommentedweek 15 years ago
I like your photos and how you explain the week-diary...good luck growmie😉🍀👍
moshcann
moshcanncommented5 years ago
@Belverde, Thanks a lot :) It is nice to be around other people who enjoy learning and growing. The photos will be even more interesting as the plant flowers :) I'm mainly using a 300mm f/4L with macro, but I will make a new week update tomorrow with pictures of the entire setup and some details. So expect more interesting photos, haha :)
Whitoutduty
Whitoutdutycommentedweek 15 years ago
@moshcann, Hi Gro, You looks well prepare 👌💪😛
moshcann
moshcanncommented5 years ago
@Whitoutduty, Hey thanks! Yeah, I am prepared as good as I can. I will probably learn a lot during the next weeks too tho :)
James
Jamescommentedweek 15 years ago
Good luck!!!
moshcann
moshcanncommented5 years ago
@James, Thanks a lot :)
happytrees
happytreescommentedweek 75 years ago
Decent recovery for an autoflower around that phase. You have a normal amount of budsites. I noticed up top, it says you're still using grow nutes. Switch to bloom nutes asap if you haven't yet. Those leaves are very rich with nitrogen right now. That shows in the dark green shade of the leaves. The leathery looking texture is also another factor, but also can be strain/pheno related. Don't worry though, not trying to freak you out lol. You'll be fine when you switch to bloom. Let's try this, What light spectrum are you currently running? Feed bloom with 20% runoff and check ppm. Lets see where she's sitting at compared to your feed.