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Shakedown92 Shakedown92
5 years ago
1st time novice grower in the Northeast with 600w Yintatech amazon shite using Miracle Grow "premo" potting soil (non moisture control version). The 2 D.Devil auto seedlings are lovely and lush green though growth appears slow. Filtering via ZERO water. City tap pH ~7.18 tDS = 130. Post-filter reading of 6.1 pH with a tds of 000. The girls are currently in 1 liter plastic containers which i feel may be too large and not wicking moisture away fast enough but it doesn't seem to be causing detrimental effects at this time. The Yinta kit came with 2 fabric grow bags about 2-3 liters in size, so a bit bigger than their current containers which I hope to be transplanting after a couple weeks of veg. After reading a bunch of articles on Royal Seeds regarding nutes versus indoor autos, im going to hold off on any additions until after the transplant happens. At this time im sitting on 5 total additives, pH up/down & general hydroponics' Flora Gro, Micro and Bloom kit. No funky fertilizers, no rooting additives i really want to see how the first 2 girls fare without bombarding them with chems. As for the staging area, they're currently leisuring away in a spare closet with the Yinta. House is pretty stable around 65 +/- 5 degrees F, day or night with good natural cross breeze. Within the next week or 2 I will be piecing together their main housing , my own interpretation on a stacking space tote design. I'll be sure to post the details and final cost as the build progresses. **Edit: Sept. 7th** After the past few days with little to no significant growth, I decided to set up a small space heater going at 70 F. It's about that time of year in the NE where there's a slight chill to the air in the early morning so my initial thought was perhaps its a metabolic rate thing due to low temps. Fingers crossed that the extra warm air circulation will allow the soil to dry out more quickly as well. ✋💀 Best regards, S
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Shakedown92
Shakedown92started grow question 5 years ago
1 week post germ with very slow growth (indoor auto) I think the 1L plastic containers are too large & not allowing good air flow to the soil. If i wait for the mix to dry out should I re-pot ASAP ? Size up to fabric bags 3L or size down to Solo cups? ✋💀 S
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Philindicus
Philindicusanswered grow question 5 years ago
The reason your seedling is growing so slowly is your temperatures and humidity are too low. Cause ing LVPD (Leaf vapor pressure deficit) This imbalance affects your seedlings ability to effectively pull nutrients through it's root system. Try to increase your temperatures to 77-78 with 60 to 65% humidity. Typically you should start your auto flower seeds in their final pot size they do not like to be moved.If left in small pot too long she will be stunted. Even though they are in larger pots you would water then like you were growing them in solo cups until they have,a large enough root system check out my current grows week 2 gives an explaination of LVPD with some links for more info. You can see my stategy for starting and watering auto flowers. Over watering can also cause nutrient absorption issues. Feel free to message me anytime. Hope this helps.
Shakedown92
Shakedown92started grow question 5 years ago
How does one keep the nodal spacing tighter on the main stem, should the LEDs be closer? Her leaves also seem rather small for a plant with that heighth. #firsttimegrowerproblems
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GrowsGanjaGuy
GrowsGanjaGuyanswered grow question 5 years ago
@Shakedown92 you are correct. Lowering the lights is a good way to control stretch. They farther the light the more stretch but also dont wanna be too close depends on how strong your light is. And for the other part I would recommend running good genetics from a trusted breeder. Do some research on which breeder is best in your region. You look to be doing good though keep up the good work. Goodluck 👍🏼
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Athos
Athosanswered grow question 5 years ago
Yes, keeping the light closer will make the nodes really tight, but that can only be done if your lights give low heat, else you will give your plant heat stress. screw in led bulbs with the plastic cap removed work great for this. and you can keep them a few inches away. Also keeping the night and day temperatures close help in keeping the nodal space tight.
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimaranswered grow question 5 years ago
For me she looks ok its aquite young plant and she changes very fast... ATM i wont change the distance , she grows vigor and has nice leaves everywhere
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Athos
Athosweek 4
Yes, keeping the light closer will make the nodes really tight, but that can only be done if your lights give low heat, else you will give your plant heat stress. screw in led bulbs with the plastic cap removed work great for this. and you can keep them a few inches away. Also keeping the night and day temperatures close help in keeping the nodal space tight.
raptor65
raptor65week 7
Look's to be coming along👌 , wee bit of patients and a lot of TLC and it'll be just fine 👍, good luck 👊mate
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 5
Even though she has started blooming keep using veg nutrients and your veg light which is mostly a blue spectrum. If you use the bloom which is heavier in red spectrum it will lead to more stretching in your plant. Once she is 3/4 through her stretch then switch over to bloom nutes and lights.
Ferenc
Ferencweek 4
Good Luck! @Shakedown92
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 3
I can't say for sure but that stunted one be careful with it. It needs to grow a bit before I would call it but I would suspect it could be a plant virus possibly. Don't freak out just yet. Post a photo next week from above the plant so we can see the leaves color and shape. Some times if they are strong growers and throw out some normal leaves it will look like it's out growing the issue. Just be careful wash your hands good and tools that have touched the plant to play it safe until we see what she gives you next week. I had one on my Blackberry Kush grow and there are a few more floating around GD with similar issues. Stuff like this happens when growing.
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 3
Ocean Forest tends to be on the hot side so be careful with it so it doesn't burn your roots. Most people mix in more perlite or coco coir etc. Some people will use it full strength no issues others swear it burned the hell out of their plants. Go figure. I would layer your pots with a stronger mix on the bottom half then go with a weaker strength mixture of FFOF and what ever you want to lighten up the nutrient content of the upper half of the pot. Only advice I can offer.
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 2
Hope my answer to your grow question helped you out. Feel free to message me anytime. Look forward to following your grow.👍