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Fingerprint Genetics - Torontonian Cookies
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weeks 4, 7
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weeks 6-8
Defoliation
weeks 6-7, 9-10
18.927 l
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Week 7
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24 hrs
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DeeCee DeeCee
5 years ago
I'm having trouble diagnosing the light brown almost beige spots showing up on the plants. I gave my friend the hash plant head of lettuce looking plant this week so I could focus more on the 3 plants. I am down to 2x Toronto Cookie plants which are growing the best and one Sativa Blue Dream which I've struggled with from the start. She grows thin wispier leaves and seems to be a lot more sensitive. She is showing classic calcium deficiency right now even though I've added the Cali Magic. I started adjusting my PH down to 5.8 in hopes to correct it. Blue Dream and TO # 1 have been trained with a sort of quadline method even though I kept the 2nd node along with the 3rd and 4th. So they essentially both have 6 shoots growing their own offshoots which I've trained to be equally spaced around the plants. On the TO # 2 plant I topped it later so it has more nodes. I bent the main stem right over to spread the auxin on her and she is doing well. Kind of just shooting by the hip with her training and learning as I go but it seems to be going very well. Both TO Cookie plants were trained extensively at the end of this week and likely for the last time as all their shoots are out past the edges of the pots now and canopy is looking fairly level. I will let them go vertical now for a week or two and then flip to flower. Blue Dream as usual is giving me a run for my money but really started to pick up last week. Her nodes are intensley tight and bushy. I measured 3 nodes in 3.5" on most shoots making it very hard to train. I think I will defoliate a bit to open them all up next week. Here are some changes made that seemed to have helped the slower growth and issues I;ve been facing, I've certainly learned a lot on this first indoor grow! Low night temps dropping to 16 celsius when lights went out (canadian basement) - switched lights to 24/0 schedule to maintain 24-26degrees Insufficient lighting - upgraded to a MARS Hydro TSW 1000 quantum board Poor watering techniques - watered no more than every 4 days. Lightly top watered if bottoms of pot werent dry. Overaggressive training too close to the main stem knuckle causing stem breakages - Learned to start bending further down at newer bendier growth No added CalMag supplement in soil less medium - Added Cali Magic, lowered PH to 5.8 to correct lockout if it was present Light too close to plants - Raised light to 28" Insufficient fresh air movement - Added 2 interior circ fans, 1 4", 1 6" and turned on 4" inline exhaust fan. Added a 12" fan outside the tent on low pushing air into the intake. Nutrient Burn - I started noticing the tops turning yellow and clawing downwards - next week I will reduce to 1/2 strength nutrients.
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Grow Questions
DeeCee
DeeCeestarted grow question 5 years ago
Added a couple pics of some leaves curling up along the edges. I added a space heater a few says ago is this from the heat being a little close and high or something else? Secondly plants are growing, how do you beat determine when to up pot, I'll be going right into the final 5g
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DankGardener
DankGardeneranswered grow question 5 years ago
You need to transplant now! This could be the answer to all your question triggered by root problems. Plant has overgrown container. The best way to tell when to transplant is when the leaves reach the edge of container like yours. I recommend great white when transtplant just sprinkle on roots directly. You will get outrageous root growth and helps transplant shock.
DeeCee
DeeCeestarted grow question 5 years ago
What are the beige/brown spots a sign of? Why are the two Cookies plants always droopy yet the Blue Dream never droopy and they have all been watered the same. Roughly 1g each every 5 or so days when pots are dry and light. My light is up to 30" so that's not it.
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BlackCousin
BlackCousinanswered grow question 5 years ago
Hello DeeCee, your girls are still looking good. I see your problem, its sucking the nitrogen out of its leaves. That said it could be different things, not enough nutes at this stage. Maybe its not getting enough nutes or not consistent. Do not let your medium dry out completly (its bad for your girl and her roots), put your finger top in your medium when its a bit moist u can feed her again, if its really wet wait another day. Also i see your humidity is a little bit on the low side, it should be more between 65% and 55% i would recommend a foliar spray with silica or give silica with the regular feeding. I think thats about it and if you do something now they will bounce back up. Hope this was an helpfull answer my friend, if so give the answer a like. Keep on growing. Peace 👍
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DeeCee
DeeCeeweek 8
Hey everyone! So I've saved the droop! I looked back in my notes and it started the day I switched to 24/0. A day after going back to 20/4 they perked right back out. Turns out Torontonian Cookies needs a little rest! The yellowing fan leaves and occasional brown / bronze spots I believe to be either/or both nitrogen phosphorus deficiency which I believe I have in check. All signs pointing up! Thanks so much for the help @mrs_larimar @asnoriu
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@DeeCee,ok ok normally i look for the light time... but they were so tall i forgot it... yes great that you could solve the problem by your own
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 6
If you have tendecies to overwater . those smartpots provides it. They keep all the wet stuff inside......think about taking any other plastic pot , to have abetter drainage. your girls look like the roots a re standing in a swamp. Touch the bottom of your smartpots and tell me whow they feel
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@AsNoriu, you are absolutely right...i have been using clay granules... and totally forgot it.... thy for remembering us for such easy things,,,,, apreciate it very much
AsNoriu
AsNoriu
@Mrs_Larimar, you can put lair of air stones on bottom of air/self pruning pots and you will never have overwatering or moisture concentration in some spots.... Still you will have to lift them to determine watering time ;) I know you know, but, with simple construction material from DIY store you can prevent it. I bought mine on ebay. Some people use it on top even, i like to see my soil and to shuffle it a bit or to add lair of fresh soil in midle of flower ( really good results ) Never had bug infection yet ;)) so my soil is always open.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@DeeCee,Thats way to expensive i agree . i pay between 12 and 20 euro for the pots in a growsop.... Ive made my own " airpots too... ive pierced with a hot metal wholes in the regualr ones... and iam sure in a hardware store you find your regular ones, ebay and amazon got them too and quite cheap too
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DeeCee
DeeCeeweek 8
I just had a thought - maybe the 24hr light schedule is stressing them and causing some droop. Looking back it may have come on right about when I switched from 20/4. Maybe starting tomorrow I'll switch back - I'm close to Flowering and will be slowly transitioning to 12/12 anyway. I have also gotten temps up in the basement to 19 or 20 celsius with the new furnace so it shouldn't plummet to 16 anymore.
DeeCee
DeeCee
@AsNoriu, thanks for all your advice and your time I really appreciate it. I'm going to think about my options and all this advice today and come up with a plan to execute tonight
AsNoriu
AsNoriu
@DeeCee, ppm got into my life only when i got lockouts, if you dont overfeed and your leaves colour is healthy - ph is GOD. BLUELAB cost 80 on amazon, do it your first buy, when you can. Sticks are more acurate than most pens. I used paper, liquid and pen, when my plant where in trouble just to make sure, that i do what i want to do, not what wrong settings lie to me .. All the best, one thing is sure is you do not poison it its almost imposible to kill that big weed in veg. You will only slow down grow rate, shock her or so, but no kill in 99% only poison kills...
DeeCee
DeeCee
@AsNoriu, tomorrow night I'm going to do just that with one. I do have a bag of Promix seedling starter soil that should be pretty light on nutrients. I don't have a ph pen I use the sticks. I just bought a 20 dollar ppm pen off amazon a few minutes ago. I know not ideal but like I said I'm out of budget on this grow by now so it'll have to do.
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DankGardener
DankGardenerweek 3
You need to transplant now! This could be the answer to all your question triggered by root problems. Plant has overgrown container. The best way to tell when to transplant is when the leaves reach the edge of container like yours. I recommend great white when transtplant just sprinkle on roots directly. You will get outrageous root growth and helps transplant shock.
Master_weeda
Master_weedaweek 2
Second like for weedawan 😉Good luck for your grow 🌱
Master_weeda
Master_weedaweek 2
May the force be with you 💪
Master_weeda
Master_weedaweek 8
Hello my friend I replied to your grow question if the answer suits you can you validate it Please? If the problem does not hesitate to come back to me and we will make a new diagnosis. Normally everything should work out. May the strength be with you 💪
DeeCee
DeeCeeweek 2
Thanks for stopping by weedawan!