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6 years ago
Am new to this. Growing 3 Fastbuds Crystal Meth automatics (first attempt at growing at all in 30 years, grew a long time ago and things have changed dramatically). Living in a very hot house so using a portable air con to try and keep temps down. Made the rookie mistake of too much nutrients but quickly corrected that. LSD25 plants I am also growing the leaves showed a potassium deficiency so raised nutrient levels to 5 ml Part A and Part B Canna per 3 litres new growth seems ok. After flushing all pots with 15 litres of water ph'd at 5.8 I finished the flush with 3 litres per pot of nutrients with rhizotonic 6ml and cannazyn 7ml. The Crystal Meth plants show not signs of the same problems as the LSD25 strain, Crystal Meth plants look great. At the end of week 3 side branching is appearing but only 1 of the 3 Crystal Meth plants has stretched enough to start LST, the other two are very compact plants with little or no stretch yet. Am now in spring outside and temperatures are rising. Will be interesting to see if the portable air con can keep the temps down in the room. Growing in an open closet. Using Coco Noir soil which I washed thoroughly, Was the brick type because I could not get the bagged Coco. 75% coco 25% vermiculite in 12 litre fabric pots. Currently the coco soil is not drying out very quickly so after the big flush I am waiting to see how long that will take. Will probably give a small 500ml per plant feed every 3 days because I am not sure and don't want another deficiency. The lights I am using for veg are photography green screen CFL White lights. There are 4 per globes per fitting, each globe rated at 225 watts but from the wall 75 watts, I have 4 fittings so am running 16 globes. I have a cheap chinese full spectrum to add when they go to flower! My air con broke down so another new one is on the way. This is not a cheap first grow for me but must finish it. Also growing 5 Fastbuds LSD-25 Autos which I am starting a separate diary for. Also I used the Canna Grow schedule that tells you how much nutes to use at each stage but it appears they are wrong their schedule is far too strong if you follow the doses they recommend. The Crystal Meth plants seemed to be ok with the hot schedule but the LSD-25 plants were set back, two remained midgets, 3 are almost recovered and 2 coped very well like the Crystal Meth plants did.
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Gotchastarted grow question 6 years ago
The biggest problem I have growing in coco is that autoflowers don't tolerate the nutrient manufacturers feeding schedules. I went and got the Canna feeding schedule for coco and it burnt my plants. Anyone know of a schedule specifically for auto's?
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Athosanswered grow question 6 years ago
Try this for a water / feed schedule for coco, forget any half strength or half assed rule like that, get a TDS/EC meter an use that, take this as a guide. Week 1: 0.6 EC (300 PPM) , focus on cal/mag (or similar). Week 2: 0.8 to 1.0 EC (400 to 500 PPM). Week 3 and rest of veg: 1.2 to 1.4 EC (600 to 700 PPM. Flower: 1.4 to 1.8 EC (700 to 900 PPM) I'm giving you ranges because different strains will like different nute strength, also different light setups will affect this also. Like the nutrient requirement for a micro grow is different from a plant under 1000W.
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Cannabisqueen
Cannabisqueenweek 5
Looking good!!
Zannabis7
Zannabis7week 16
That is a wild looking grow for sure. I agree with @Jaindoh about the potential overwater. I might suggest poking some holes in the soil with a skewer to get some air to the roots and help the soil dry out a bit!
Zannabis7
Zannabis7
@Gotcha, Hope it helps. Happy grows!
Gotcha
Gotcha
@Zannabis7, Thanks, I'll give that a go!
Gotcha
Gotcha
@Zannabis7, I was reading all over the place that it is impossible to overwater in coco. The water certainly passes through quickly enough. I can see that leaving them sitting in accumulated runoff could be a problem so I don't do that!
Tonino
Toninoweek 10
Lots of buds sites great
Tonino
Tonino
@Gotcha,slowly bud surely
Gotcha
Gotcha
@Tonino, yes i just hope they fatten up, they don't seem to be doing a terrible lot over the past 3 weeks.
420_liquidsun
420_liquidsunweek 3
Seems to me you now what you r doing, good luck πŸ€ man
420_liquidsun
420_liquidsun
@Gotcha,yeah man, every growers have their own way..you will find your way too.. Your plants looking healthy right now 🌱 Will be following.. πŸ‘ŠπŸΌπŸ˜Ž
Gotcha
Gotcha
@420_liquidsun, Thanks, I don't really know what I'm doing, I've done 3 months solid daily research before starting but everyone has different methods so I ended up looking at grow diary grows for the strains I want to try and then paid particular attention to the grows that had the best yeilds. I did note that both with Crystal Meth and LSD the plants that were the biggest were done on an 18/6 light schedule. I've been on 24 hour for veg but will drop back to 18/6 for flower I think. It makes sense that they will be less stressed with a little dark time each day.
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNSweek 5
It takes time to grow Cannabis bro. Try to build strong roots , more roots = more fruits πŸ˜‰
Tonino
Toninoweek 5
Always like to follow this strain
Zannabis7
Zannabis7week 14
Some killer looking colas. Nice grow. Best wishes on the harvest, cure, and tasty smoke. - Zannabis7
Zannabis7
Zannabis7
@Gotcha, Gotcha. Gotta love the science of a good grow!
Gotcha
Gotcha
@Zannabis7, I have the opposite problem, it is summer here and it's always really hot, over 90! I am sure that has caused a few problems!
Zannabis7
Zannabis7
@Gotcha, Still a great grow. I have better luck with a longer light cycle (20/4 or 24/0). I am trying 24/0 this time due to winter temps and being able to keep the grow closet at the correct temp/humidity.
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420_liquidsun
420_liquidsunweek 4
HOw much water you r giving to them, maybe you can give less water and they dry out more quick, i am giving 0.5 L in 2 days at this stage.. it depends to environment but you got the idea i guess.. πŸ˜‰
Gotcha
Gotcha
@420_liquidsun, Had better results this week with tap water at 6.1ph. just doing the weeks diary now. I look at them a lot each day paraniod about insects, Spray weekly with Neem oil which doesn't seem to hurt the plants, There were some tiny white things flying around at one stage and I thought I saw a fungus gnat the other day but the Neem oil seems to keep things almost non existent on the insect front. Do the soil as well as the folige and if I see anything flying about I drench everything.
Gotcha
Gotcha
@420_liquidsun, I've been adding the nutes then balancing the ph. Just doing week 5, have made changes and have better results this week at 6.1 with 4ml Canna part a and b and no nutrients, also changed from rainwater to tap water as it is supposed to have calcium and magnesium, it's made a difference. Thanks for your advice.
420_liquidsun
420_liquidsun
@Gotcha,do you know why your Ph is not balancing.. did you try, first ph ed your water what you prefer then add canna nutes.. between 5.8-6.2 is sweet point for hydro grow.. try to be in between these numbers..forget about all the experiences that growers saying.. every grower has own way to grow.. you will find your way too.. observing is important, your plants allways says what they need or not..
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JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNSweek 3
Never follow manufacturers schedule at the beginning πŸ˜‰ Those feeding charts are based for 1000W HPS by the way.
rootmaster
rootmaster
@JUNGLE_B4RNS, thanks. but i never had nutrient probs till a little mistake i made last week. It burned 3 arms on three different plants. but i know what was the reason for that.... ;-) and by the way.... if those feeding charts are made for 1000W HPS.... okay i donΒ΄t have that... but i got 900W LED ;-)
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNS
@rootmaster, this might help you ☝️
Gotcha
Gotcha
@JUNGLE_B4RNS, Yeah I've noticed the schedule is too hot for them. I'm guessing as it grows and the root system becomes extensive then you can up but I am going to stay at least 1.5ml under what they recommend for light feedings. Twice I went to the recommended dose and twice there was the beginning of nutrient burn, so flush and water with a weaker dose. In week 4 now so am sticking to 5ml of A and B and next week will go up to 6mls. I didn't read anything on the Canna site about lights being a factor. I will be adding a 600 watt LED in two weeks so there is red light, and will be keeping the CFL's to light from the sides as well. I'm thinking that as long as they are a reasonable distance away they won't hurt to have them as well.
hiciste
hicisteweek 10
Hi my friend, your plants look great. I would like to get some advices from your experiences, it's my first planting. That's why I have problems on when to harvest my plant. Would you please look at my diary and tell me around when should I harvest my plant? Additionaly, I'm thinking that I will have 150 gr dried harvest. What is your opinion, do I have to wait for something less? Thank you. β˜ΊοΈπŸ˜‡
Gotcha
Gotcha
@hiciste, I am told when the trichomes are amber is when you should harvest!
Gotcha
Gotcha
@hiciste, Hi, this is my first grow so perhaps you should ask someone more experienced than I!
Ripper
Ripperweek 8
Looks great. How often are you watering?
Ripper
Ripper
@Gotcha, sounds perfect bud
Gotcha
Gotcha
@Ripper, the coco takes ages to dry out so every 3-4 days!
Jaindoh
Jaindohweek 16
Harvest always feels good! Will follow your profile for future grows =)
Gotcha
Gotcha
@Jaindoh,Thanks!
Jaindoh
Jaindohweek 16
First grow going well! Got some symptoms there but nothing that cant be handled. Looks like you might be watering too often on top of the too much nutes. Hard to say from pics if it's just nitrogen toxicity claw, or the drooping is your roots not getting enough oxygen. Make sure you let the top knuckle of the soil dry out. It will let air get to the roots -- they need it or they will drown! If you're already watering sparsely it may just be claw, however. That technique -- as well as lifting the pot to assess water by weight -- will serve you well. The reduction in fingers on your leaves I associate with heat as well. If you can get the temps down towards 25 instead of 35 your plants will do much better. It is foxtailing but that's also fine it still smokes -- just less dense and less yield from that. Liked and followed! If anyone else has a better interpretation I'm always ears for that as well.
Gotcha
Gotcha
@Jaindoh,Thanks for your input. I checked the A&B Canna Coco nutrients and both A&B have nitrogen, B appears to have much more. You have to mix the two parts together. The dose is always equal amounts. So at 1.5ml per 3 litres water it is not a large amount of anything. Anymore than that and the plants get nutrient burn. If I am adding Calmag I drop the dose back to 1ml. I think I will try some other nutrients because Canna is very confusing. If you dose at their recommended amounts the plants would die......far too hot!
DabCrab
DabCrabweek 7
Looks like this strong nutrient regiment you've been using is paying off on this lovely girl. You've done a fantastic job growing this beautiful girl. I can't wait to see whats in store for them in the next few weeks. I think they'll plump up very nicely and make some fat buds. Best wishes buddy. You are doing great :D
Gotcha
Gotcha
@DabCrab, Thanks, the Crystal Meth strain seems to handle everything so much better than the LSD 25 strain. The 3 Crystal Meth plants have showed no signs of nut burn or clawing that the LSD does. Crystal Meth plants have remained healthy looking and strong throughout but all plants have shown slow growth until last week.
Fast_Buds
Fast_Budsweek 3
Thanks for growing our genetics, good luck!! We’re really looking forward to it!! Enjoy Growing Faster.
Gotcha
Gotcha
@Fast_Buds, thanks. I would like to do a good job for you but am running into issues, not sure if it is nute strength or over watering. The canna grow schedule for nutes seems too strong and when I up the dose I get the eagle claw even though I am under what they recommend. I've come back to feed 2.5ml less than their recommended dose. Also my coco doesn't seem to dry out, not wanting to starve the plants of nutes I water every second day but right now I am going to leave it til the top of the coco is completely dry which could take 5-7 days the way it dries.
Chuckie
Chuckieweek 3
Am just flushing out my crystal meth, mine didn't take well to too many nutes only used half dosage for this plant. looks and smells amazing. Good luck with yours
Gotcha
Gotcha
@Chuckie, I'm running into issues and not sure if it is nutes or overwatering. Just doing week 4 now.
Zannabis7
Zannabis7week 15
Thanks for the update. Still looking like a killer specimen. Very nice colas! Continued best wishes on the grow!
Tonino
Toninoweek 11
those buds are coming along
Tonino
Toninoweek 8
she's spreading her wings
Tonino
Toninoweek 6
Very nice work she’s looking great