Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 35 years ago
In your case i would go back to photoperiods, You can bring them into every shape you want to...
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Slowberry Micro Grow - 2nd grow
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Topping
weeks 3
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weeks 3, 5-10
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weeks 3, 7, 10
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weeks 3, 8-9
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Day 17 - Before Topping
Day 17 - Topped. Not my cleanest effort but I'm sure she'll bounce back fine
Day 16
Day 17 - Before Topping
Day 17 - Topped. Not my cleanest effort but I'm sure she'll bounce back fine
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So far so good with week 3.
Topped on day 17. Nice and early and at the 2nd node, I'm experimenting with some less common methods for autos I know but it's all good fun and the best way to learn. I plan to do a sort of mainline, or at least a T shaped split.
Ended the week finishing off this stage of the training. Looking forward to see how it going to react and look by the end of next week. Comparing to other similar diaries on here I seem to be about a week behind schedule, hopefully won't end up with a tiny plant and she give a good aggressive growth spurt.
All help and comments appreciated as always.
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Donny
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donnythechefstarted grow question 5 years ago
Hi all, who has grown and attempted HST on Fastberry by Fastbuds before? I'm worried I'm about a week behind schedule and she's not going to have time to veg out before flowering hits! Should I be worried? I don't have loads of room anyway!
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HighRoller909answered grow question 5 years ago
Never grew fastberry but applied hst on other fast buds autos with great result.you can't go wrong with hst unless you completely break the stem.even if you break,you can tape it and itll probably recover.hst makes stems bigger,stronger,ends with greater yields.my fav training so far.just break the inner muscles and you are safe
By the way,you can hst your plant even after 3-4 weeks into flowering with no problem.bent stems and tops will position themselves to the light in a night
donnythechefstarted grow question 5 years ago
When stunted with too much stress, will a fast growing auto strain such as Fastberry still manage to eventually grow fully developed flowers? If so, how long would you expect this to take? Given an inital 8 to 10 week germ to harvest time.
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Mrs_Larimaranswered grow question 5 years ago
Training just delays them in flower. They do the same like untrained plants but later.....so i think in 5-6 weeks your Harvest will come ( if you stop major training on her)
as she is quite small she wont be a big girl at all but she will give you harvest
donnythechefstarted grow question 5 years ago
H50cm W37.5cm L57cm
Now using 1 household 13w Phillips LED 2700K for flower, a 120w CFL for veg and I use a cheap 20w dual Spectrum LED that I'm sure does almost nothing.
See pics for convo with led sales guy. Is the height really that much of an issue with the light intensity?
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Athosanswered grow question 5 years ago
Lets see you have a surface of 37.5 * 57 that is 0.21 sq m or 2.3 sq ft. My own space is very similar to that although taller. You need 30 to 40 watts of led watts per sq ft, that is 70 to 92 watts (and forget CFL). Check this picture https://media.growdiaries.com/static/post/photo/4596/288556_micro-grow-60w-78w-run-2eva-seedshigh-level.jpg
You can keep using the led bulbs, just remove the plastic cover and point them down and use several more of them. Since height will be an issue I would use 5000K to 6500K color ones, that will help in keeping the stretch down.
donnythechefstarted grow question 5 years ago
Is this light burn? If not what is it?
It's under a Phillips 13w household led 2700k bulb, it's not the only affected area but it's the most affected and the closest to the bulb.
I plan to add more but don't want the issue to accelerate.
Thanks in advance!
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Leaves. Tips - Burnt
Leaves. Color - Yellow
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OutForRealanswered grow question 5 years ago
The tips are burning and the leaves are yellowing but I cannot see burnt parts.
You have a nitrogen deficiency and maybe a nutrient excess that is causing the leaves tips burnt ( high Temps and bad ph can do that too )
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Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 35 years ago
In your case i would go back to photoperiods, You can bring them into every shape you want to...
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donnythechefcommented5 years ago
Hi @Mrs_Larimar, thanks for your answer and this advice. I'm very new to growing still and just wanted to try out some fast growing autos, there's so my hype online and some amazing growers on here using them. I have another auto seed from Fastbuds called Purple Lemonade. I'm going to give that a go with just LST and see how it goes.. From there I'll decide to go back to photoperiods or keep on trying with autos! Thanks again for the help, and for showing love!
Donny
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Bashgrowsitall1989commentedweek 35 years ago
You're plants look like thier doing really well, I'm also doing a Fastbuds strain Auto Zkittlez. I've defoliated it and it's doing pretty well tbf. Its pre flowering/ pre flower stretching. Happy growing
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donnythechefcommented5 years ago
@Bashgrowsitall1989, thanks for reassuring me. I'm still worried how mine will react to all the hst so young. Can't start much later though, typically a 10 week growth period on this Fastberry. Not sure I'm running ideal nutes either as I'm pretty new here.
My box is tiny, height is the real issue as I can't put very powerful lights inside, will make the unit too hot and harm/burn the plant. It's homemade from a 92 litre storage box. It's size is H 520. W 595. D 395.
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Bashgrowsitall1989commented5 years ago
@donnythechef, No worries pal, actually this is the 3rd time for me and everytime they respond well. It really helps extra upwards growth and letting light into the centre of the plant does the blooms the world of good.
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donnythechefcommented5 years ago
@Bashgrowsitall1989, thanks buddy! I'll go take a look at your ZKittlez now! Is this your first time hst / defoliating autos?
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HylianGrasscommentedweek 45 years ago
Hey there buddy looks like you might have thrown too much stress at her , at week 4 you should have a feet tall plant with more than 6 nodes, growing is all about trials and error so never give up, you might want to try lst on autoflowering plants since your veg time is 3 weeks and that is really smal for shaping a plant to your desired size. I start training plant at week 2-3 and introduce defoliation only to interior leaves and those who blocks the light when i am in pre-flower state. Like i said dont worry my first plant yielded 1g since i stressed her, But id say apply training techniques when you have mastered the environment and understand the baisic of growing. Try a few grow without even touching the plant to see how they react to nutrients and heat or even stress. Best of luck and never give up you are on the good path since she looks healthy but a bit behind. Also if you really like to play with your plant ypu might want to stick to photoperiod since you can veg her out as long as you want . Much love and keep growing๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป
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HylianGrasscommented5 years ago
@donnythechef, its all good , as i said its all trials and error and who cares about size when the end result is a healthy good looking plant. Going small can be harder than going big sometimes. I am glad to see you takes the positive side of the comment you get, i did not mean to drag you down or discourage you with my comment . We grower need to grow more than our girls so keep experimenting or trying techniques that trow you out of your comfort zone. Happy growing my friend and donโt hesitate if you need help or anything most people around here are very nice And give constructive comment . And remember you are doing this for yourself and from what i see it wont be long before you achieve your goals. ๐๐ป๐๐ป
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donnythechefcommented5 years ago
@HylianGrass, yea unfortunately this is what I'm thinking too. I have a very small space to grow in so letting even a small natured strain go without training isn't really an option! I honestly think that with a bit more experience and topping even earlier it would veg out in time.. Theres plenty of people using this "nugbucket mainline" technique on similar autos with great success. I see that you either need to top super early or not at all..
Thanks for all the useful info anyway buddy! I've got a purple lemonade Fastbuds seed I'm going to try next. I will not be topping this time, just LST.
Donny
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raptor65commentedweek 35 years ago
Looking great ๐, All the best in your grow ,and having a great harvest ๐, good luck ๐
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raptor65commented5 years ago
@donnythechef, Yup ya got it going there LOL๐, Good luck mate ,everything looks just great๐
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donnythechefcommented5 years ago
Thanks @raptor65 !
So far so good, she seems to be bouncing back from the topping real fast.
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Doktorhollandcommentedweek 55 years ago
u need better light
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donnythechefcommented5 years ago
@Doktorholland, hi there buddy. Not sure I do to be honest. A better brand might help but the power for this very small area is just fine : Look at my other grow. The slow growth is due to me giving the plant too much stress early on.
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Resin_Randycommentedweek 45 years ago
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donnythechefcommented5 years ago
@@Resin_Randy, thanks for showing love dude! How do u think its going?
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Germanocommentedweek 45 years ago
what happend at the end of week 3 ? what have you done with the big fan leaves ?
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donnythechefcommented5 years ago
Hi @Germano,
I got rid of them to let the plant focus on the new shoots that are now growing out faster. I've seen this HST method with some other auto growers. I know this method may seem strange as the plant needs the leafs to pull in energy, but the proof is in the pudding.. And I've seen it work with my own eyes. Really I'm just experimenting with different growing methods.
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Fast_Budscommentedweek 35 years ago
Hey there,
Thanks so much for running a diary of our genetics ๐
Let us know if you need any assistance, weโre more than happy to help.
Happy Growing !!! ๐ฑโ๏ธ๐ด๐๐ฟ๐ณ
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donnythechefcommented5 years ago
@Fast_Buds Thanks for showing support, seems to be a healthy young girl!
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KnightRidercommentedweek 35 years ago
All the best on your grow buddy, this a great strain for muscle and stress relief โ๏ธ
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Athoscommentedweek 105 years ago
Lets see you have a surface of 37.5 * 57 that is 0.21 sq m or 2.3 sq ft. My own space is very similar to that although taller. You need 30 to 40 watts of led watts per sq ft, that is 70 to 92 watts (and forget CFL). Check this picture https://media.growdiaries.com/static/post/photo/4596/288556_micro-grow-60w-78w-run-2eva-seedshigh-level.jpg
You can keep using the led bulbs, just remove the plastic cover and point them down and use several more of them. Since height will be an issue I would use 5000K to 6500K color ones, that will help in keeping the stretch down.
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